onkyo 805 and 7.1 - Blu-ray Forum

jabawonky · 05-17-2008, 03:36 PM

just hooked up my brand new onkyo 805! never experienced high definition sound and it is amazing. Only problem i have experienced so far is not having my rear 2 speakers produce sound on 7.1 movies (such as shoot em up). I am playing movies on the ps3 and I have it set to linear pcm and i manually checked every audio option in sound options. When i look at the ps3 display it says DTS HD - MA and 7.1 is appearing. Any ideas?

Also I hear of people sound mixing so 5.1 movies or games play on all 7 speakers? not sure if I heard it right but would appreciate an explanation how to do so. I found the instruction booklet that came with the receiver to be very bland on how to do things.

un4gvn94538 · 05-17-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jabawonky

just hooked up my brand new onkyo 805! never experienced high definition sound and it is amazing. Only problem i have experienced so far is not having my rear 2 speakers produce sound on 7.1 movies (such as shoot em up). I am playing movies on the ps3 and I have it set to linear pcm and i manually checked every audio option in sound options. When i look at the ps3 display it says DTS HD - MA and 7.1 is appearing. Any ideas?

Also I hear of people sound mixing so 5.1 movies or games play on all 7 speakers? not sure if I heard it right but would appreciate an explanation how to do so. I found the instruction booklet that came with the receiver to be very bland on how to do things.

to matrix games you might have to uncheck some of the higher 7.1 or 5.1 pcm. a ps3 quirk. not sure about sd dvd but im able to with no issue on blus. if your not getting any sound on your surround back channels you might have them assigned to zone 2 on your receiver. at least that is how my 705 is

jswilli1 · 05-17-2008, 04:59 PM

I too just bought and hooked up my 805 and I am floored with its performance. I am running 5.1 and not 7.1 so I don't have an issue with the rear speakers. Did you perform the Audyssey setup? secondly on the 805 display are all the speaker blocks present to represent your speaker setup (I.E. Front right, center, Front left, etc..)? Next question would be is your reciever in Multichannel and if so the blocks on the 805 display will have the letters representing the speakers that should be outputting or reproducing the signals being recieved from the PS3. If the block is empty then there will be no sound emitting from that speaker.

jabawonky · 05-17-2008, 05:15 PM

I did the setup, it found all 7 speakers and found their position fine, when I am on the xmb all 7 speaker indicators are lit, however when the movie starts only the front 5 are lit and no sound is being produced from the back. The display on the ps3 however still says 7.1.

gonna go mess around with it more, to many options!

un4gvn94538 · 05-17-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jabawonky

I did the setup, it found all 7 speakers and found their position fine, when I am on the xmb all 7 speaker indicators are lit, however when the movie starts only the front 5 are lit and no sound is being produced from the back. The display on the ps3 however still says 7.1.

gonna go mess around with it more, to many options!

what movies are doing this?
edit: are you using a sound modes?

jabawonky · 05-17-2008, 05:24 PM

i am using the movie shoot em up.

the sound mode i am using i believe is multichannel due to thats what the display on the receiver shows.

un4gvn94538 · 05-17-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jabawonky

i am using the movie shoot em up.

the sound mode i am using i believe is multichannel due to thats what the display on the receiver shows.

shoot em up and select dts ma 7.1 titles will only output from the ps3 in 5.1. its the way it was encoded and the ps3 is decoding. dts has different ways to encoded 7.1 dts ma and this title is one of those with this quirk

check this out
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ghlight=dts-ma

jabawonky · 05-17-2008, 05:33 PM

bah sort of sucks, but it still sounds great.

thanks for the help

un4gvn94538 · 05-17-2008, 05:34 PM

no problem, you can try to matrix it to 7.1 and see if you like that better

Jackeroo75 · 05-17-2008, 06:01 PM

That is why it's best to have only 5.1 channels. Screw the 7.1 until it goes main stream. I have the onkyo 805 with 5 speakers with 2 12 inch dual subs. Can I say 5.2 ???

un4gvn94538 · 05-17-2008, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackeroo75

That is why it's best to have only 5.1 channels. Screw the 7.1 until it goes main stream. I have the onkyo 805 with 5 speakers with 2 12 inch dual subs. Can I say 5.2 ???

actually, this problem is only on about a half dozen discs that i know of. and "best" is a matter of opinion. i think a lot of people here may disagree with you.

quexos · 05-17-2008, 10:59 PM

I've been thinking of buying an Onkyo but the receiver + the loudspeakers (good ones) are many thousands of euros. I mean the sound is important but right now good sound is actually more expensive than the Full HD TV and the PS3 together

un4gvn94538 · 05-17-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by quexos

I've been thinking of buying an Onkyo but the receiver + the loudspeakers (good ones) are many thousands of euros. I mean the sound is important but right now good sound is actually more expensive than the Full HD TV and the PS3 together

dont know what euros are commpared to the u.s. dollar but good sound doesnt have to be expensive.

Petra_Kalbrain · 05-18-2008, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

dont know what euros are commpared to the u.s. dollar but good sound doesnt have to be expensive.

$1 USD = 0.64 EUR (May 17th)
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/rates/exchform.html

un4gvn94538 · 05-18-2008, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

http://www.bankofcanada.ca/cgi-bin/famecgi_fdps

this is what i got from the link:

No cgi or cgidebug field was detected in the args
passed to famecgi (either by form submission or
query-string). Check your html form or href URL
and try again.

no worries. wasnt looking for a converter on the currency. just wanted to let him know it doesnt have to cost an arm and a leg. just a foot

unless its really that expensive there

Petra_Kalbrain · 05-18-2008, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

$1 USD = 0.64 EUR (May 17th)
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/rates/exchform.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

this is what i got from the link:

No cgi or cgidebug field was detected in the args
passed to famecgi (either by form submission or
query-string). Check your html form or href URL
and try again.

no worries. wasnt looking for a converter on the currency. just wanted to let him know it doesnt have to cost an arm and a leg. just a foot

CORRECTED LINK

HAMP · 05-19-2008, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackeroo75

That is why it's best to have only 5.1 channels. Screw the 7.1 until it goes main stream. I have the onkyo 805 with 5 speakers with 2 12 inch dual subs. Can I say 5.2 ???

Quote:

Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

"best" is a matter of opinion. i think a lot of people here may disagree with you.

I don't think Jackeroo75 meant to say it's best to have 5.1 over 7.1. He sounded more like he feels it best to wait till it's worth the money to have 7.1 from all Hi-Def movies instead of the few.

To me I wanted the total 7 surround even with the few movies & games that produce the sound. I really want to have 7.4, but I live in an apt for now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackeroo75

I have the onkyo 805 with 5 speakers with 2 12 inch dual subs. Can I say 5.2 ???

YUP!

Silo5 · 06-20-2008, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jswilli1

I too just bought and hooked up my 805 and I am floored with its performance. I am running 5.1 and not 7.1 so I don't have an issue with the rear speakers. Did you perform the Audyssey setup? secondly on the 805 display are all the speaker blocks present to represent your speaker setup (I.E. Front right, center, Front left, etc..)? Next question would be is your reciever in Multichannel and if so the blocks on the 805 display will have the letters representing the speakers that should be outputting or reproducing the signals being recieved from the PS3. If the block is empty then there will be no sound emitting from that speaker.

so, when 5.1 surround is matrixed to 7.1, does the surround back left and right boxes light up? I've been playing 5.1 surround, but I don't have any sound coming from the surround backs. The speakers are set up properly and I get the test-tones in all speakers. When I was playing the Iron Man demo on PS3, all seven boxes lit up for 7.1 surround. I was curious about matrixing 5.1 to 7.1 surround.

mr.hidef · 06-20-2008, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jabawonky

just hooked up my brand new onkyo 805! never experienced high definition sound and it is amazing. Only problem i have experienced so far is not having my rear 2 speakers produce sound on 7.1 movies (such as shoot em up). I am playing movies on the ps3 and I have it set to linear pcm and i manually checked every audio option in sound options. When i look at the ps3 display it says DTS HD - MA and 7.1 is appearing. Any ideas?

Also I hear of people sound mixing so 5.1 movies or games play on all 7 speakers? not sure if I heard it right but would appreciate an explanation how to do so. I found the instruction booklet that came with the receiver to be very bland on how to do things.

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gnash · 06-20-2008, 03:33 AM

I have an 805, and if you set the audio mode to 'neural thx 7.1' you can matrix 5.1 to 7.1. The receiver will still indicate on the display that you are receiving 5.1, but you will hear sound from the rear speakers. I've personally found that the back speakers when doing so are much less active than when a 'working' 7.1 bd is played. The best sound i've heard through the ps3 in 7.1 has been in 'the Golden Compass'...definitely worth checking out. PS...the first true 7.1 disc i tried out was 'shoot em up', and i was also irritated that it wasn't decoding properly through the ps3. such is life.

05-17-2008, 03:36 PM	#1
jabawonky Member Member since:Oct 2007	onkyo 805 and 7.1 just hooked up my brand new onkyo 805! never experienced high definition sound and it is amazing. Only problem i have experienced so far is not having my rear 2 speakers produce sound on 7.1 movies (such as shoot em up). I am playing movies on the ps3 and I have it set to linear pcm and i manually checked every audio option in sound options. When i look at the ps3 display it says DTS HD - MA and 7.1 is appearing. Any ideas? Also I hear of people sound mixing so 5.1 movies or games play on all 7 speakers? not sure if I heard it right but would appreciate an explanation how to do so. I found the instruction booklet that came with the receiver to be very bland on how to do things.

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05-17-2008, 04:59 PM	#3
jswilli1 Active Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Rio Rancho, NM Blu-ray collection:32	I too just bought and hooked up my 805 and I am floored with its performance. I am running 5.1 and not 7.1 so I don't have an issue with the rear speakers. Did you perform the Audyssey setup? secondly on the 805 display are all the speaker blocks present to represent your speaker setup (I.E. Front right, center, Front left, etc..)? Next question would be is your reciever in Multichannel and if so the blocks on the 805 display will have the letters representing the speakers that should be outputting or reproducing the signals being recieved from the PS3. If the block is empty then there will be no sound emitting from that speaker.

05-17-2008, 05:15 PM	#4
jabawonky Member Member since:Oct 2007	I did the setup, it found all 7 speakers and found their position fine, when I am on the xmb all 7 speaker indicators are lit, however when the movie starts only the front 5 are lit and no sound is being produced from the back. The display on the ps3 however still says 7.1. gonna go mess around with it more, to many options!

05-17-2008, 05:24 PM	#6
jabawonky Member Member since:Oct 2007	i am using the movie shoot em up. the sound mode i am using i believe is multichannel due to thats what the display on the receiver shows.

05-17-2008, 05:33 PM	#8
jabawonky Member Member since:Oct 2007	bah sort of sucks, but it still sounds great. thanks for the help

05-17-2008, 05:34 PM	#9
un4gvn94538 Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Limbo (Bakersfield, Ca.) 4K collection:141 Blu-ray collection:809 DVD collection:54 Digital collection:1492 Trading Score:277	no problem, you can try to matrix it to 7.1 and see if you like that better

05-17-2008, 06:01 PM	#10
Jackeroo75 Active Member Member since:Nov 2007	That is why it's best to have only 5.1 channels. Screw the 7.1 until it goes main stream. I have the onkyo 805 with 5 speakers with 2 12 inch dual subs. Can I say 5.2 ???

05-17-2008, 10:59 PM	#12
quexos Banned Member since:May 2007 Location:Brussels, Belgium	I've been thinking of buying an Onkyo but the receiver + the loudspeakers (good ones) are many thousands of euros. I mean the sound is important but right now good sound is actually more expensive than the Full HD TV and the PS3 together

06-20-2008, 03:33 AM	#20
gnash Active Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Milwaukee, WI	I have an 805, and if you set the audio mode to 'neural thx 7.1' you can matrix 5.1 to 7.1. The receiver will still indicate on the display that you are receiving 5.1, but you will hear sound from the rear speakers. I've personally found that the back speakers when doing so are much less active than when a 'working' 7.1 bd is played. The best sound i've heard through the ps3 in 7.1 has been in 'the Golden Compass'...definitely worth checking out. PS...the first true 7.1 disc i tried out was 'shoot em up', and i was also irritated that it wasn't decoding properly through the ps3. such is life.

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