PS3/Onkyo 805 Audio Problem.. Still.. after 3 months -_-V

[Ice2Dragon]

My ps3 is set

Linear PCM for both options possible, its connected via HDMI to the receiver, onkyo805.

I dont know why, but whenever i pop in a blu ray and select the audio from the Movie, it wont pop up, the receiver keeps going to either ALL CH STEREO or MULTICHANNEL, and it sounds like crap. I popped in Saw4 and selected 7.1 DTS HD AUDIO, and ALL CH STEREO still came up.

Anyone? Is something wrong on the receiver end?

[MacDaddyOJack]

When you select LPCM on your PS3, you are setting it to do the decoding. So all your reciever will ever get is a pre-decoded LPCM signal, which will show up as "multichannel". This is what you want. When it says "all channel stereo", you have simply changed the listening mode. Leave your PS3 set to "LPCM" and leave your reciever set to "direct". For games, I will apply some THX processing, but thats it. For movies, I suggest that you leave it on direct. I have a PS3 and the 805 too

[Ice2Dragon]

So if i change it to direct, then when i pop up in a movie and select the audio provided like 5.1 DTS it will show up on the receiver instead of direct?

[MacDaddyOJack]

The PS3 cannot decode DTS Master Audio tracks, so on Saw IV, the PS3 was decoding the legacy DTS track and sending it to your reciever as a PCM signal, which is why the DTS light did not come on. The PS3 can decode TrueHD though so you should leave it set to "LPCM".

The only way you can get those lights to come on in the reciever is to get a player that can bitstream the new audio codecs. The PS3 cannot, so if you are looking for your reciever to do the decoding, then consider picking up a new BD player.

[skrill]

Originally Posted by Ice2Dragon

My ps3 is set

Linear PCM for both options possible, its connected via HDMI to the receiver, onkyo805.

I dont know why, but whenever i pop in a blu ray and select the audio from the Movie, it wont pop up, the receiver keeps going to either ALL CH STEREO or MULTICHANNEL, and it sounds like crap. I popped in Saw4 and selected 7.1 DTS HD AUDIO, and ALL CH STEREO still came up.

Anyone? Is something wrong on the receiver end?

I have the same exact setup -- and it sounds to me like everything is working perfectly. The PS3 is doing the decoding and sending to the 805 as LPCM. The PS3 does not bitstream multichannel next-gen codecs (that is what you need for the "TrueHD" and other things to light up on the receiver). Just check the "info" or "display" button on the PS3 it should show what audio codec is being decoded and used in the upper right hand corner.

If it "sounds like crap" then either you need new speakers or your ears need checked.

[skrill]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyOJack

When you select LPCM on your PS3, you are setting it to do the decoding. So all your reciever will ever get is a pre-decoded LPCM signal, which will show up as "multichannel". This is what you want. When it says "all channel stereo", you have simply changed the listening mode. Leave your PS3 set to "LPCM" and leave your reciever set to "direct". For games, I will apply some THX processing, but thats it. For movies, I suggest that you leave it on direct. I have a PS3 and the 805 too

You are correct, except if you are running a7.1 setup and you movie has a 5.1 encode (whether PCM, TrueHD or DTS-HD). In that case -- you want to run Pro Logic IIx (PLIIx) or THX Ultra2 Cinema mode so that the sounds is matrixed from 5.1 to 7.1.

[Ice2Dragon]

I have a 7.1 setup..

I put it on direct, and linear pcm.

I popped in WE OWN THE NIGHT, true hd track. I put it on direct, started the movie, and TRUEHD didnt pop up -_-V on the receiver, only the PCM light.

I switched it to bitstream for both options, then restarted the movie, and dolby digital glew bright red on the receiver -_-V But not true hd

[un4gvn94538]

if the player is decoding, it wont say true hd on the receiver its only getting pcm. press select on the ps3 remote and it will show you what codec its using. multichannel on the receiver is correct. if its saying all channel stereo then change modes

[un4gvn94538]

Originally Posted by Ice2Dragon

So if i change it to direct, then when i pop up in a movie and select the audio provided like 5.1 DTS it will show up on the receiver instead of direct?

in my experience the only difference between direct and surround buttons on the remote is one is using the audessey settings and the other isnt.

[skrill]

Originally Posted by Ice2Dragon

I have a 7.1 setup..

I put it on direct, and linear pcm.

I popped in WE OWN THE NIGHT, true hd track. I put it on direct, started the movie, and TRUEHD didnt pop up -_-V on the receiver, only the PCM light.

I switched it to bitstream for both options, then restarted the movie, and dolby digital glew bright red on the receiver -_-V But not true hd

OK ... and that is what it is supposed to do. The PS3 cannot bitstream TrueHD (but it will decode it to PCM on board and ship it out to the receiver as PCM -- your 805 is getting the data correctly). The PS3 can bitstream traditional DD. So it did and that caused the DD light to light up on the 805 (as it was doing the decoding).

My recommendation -- Select TrueHD on the movie (and let the PS3 do the decode) -- and the receiver should say "Multi Ch." or whatever. If it is a 7.1 source encode -- then you are good. If it is a 5.1 then use the "Surr. Mode" button or "THX Mode" button to selection either "PLIIx" or "Ultra2 Cinema" (respectively) (these two modes allow the 805 to take a 5.1 source and make it into a 7.1 sound output).

[ryoohki]

Normal With PS3 with High Def Sound and Normal Sound

PS3 set to LPCM

PCM --- MultiChannel, PCM, MPCM
TrueHD --- MultiChannel, PCM, MPCM
DTS HD MA --- Don't decode --- use CORE DTS --- MultiChannel, PCM, MPCM
DD --- MultiChannel, PCM, MPCM
DTS --- MultiChannel, PCM, MPCM

PS3 set to Bistream

PCM --- MultiChannel, PCM, MPCM
TrueHD --- don't bitstream --- use CORE --- Dolby Digital
DTS HD MA --- don't bistsream --- Use CORE --- DTS
DD --- Dolby Digital
DTS --- DTS

PS3 will NEVER bitstream HDCodec to new Receiver.. never .. ever ... ever... You need a BD30, S350, S550, BD50 or the denon or latest Pioneer Elite...

[Driver_King]

Originally Posted by ryoohki

PS3 will NEVER bitstream HDCodec to new Receiver.. never .. ever ... ever... You need a BD30, S350, S550, BD50 or the denon or latest Pioneer Elite...

But with a firmware update, it'll probably be able to decode internally DTS Master Audio. Hopefully...

[20sx]

I too have a PS3 and the onkyo 805 (5 speaker setup). When I play a movie, the only choice I have is THX cinema. It doesn't display what format I have set for it (DTS or Dolby). The other choices don't come up, such as game mode, llx, or the other 5 speaker choices. Once I turn off the PS3, those modes are now available.

How do I fix this??!!!

[gnash]

Not entirely positive on this, but if you check all the possible outputs in the audio settings area of the PS3, you should have more audio options available on the receiver.

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by 20sx

I too have a PS3 and the onkyo 805 (5 speaker setup). When I play a movie, the only choice I have is THX cinema. It doesn't display what format I have set for it (DTS or Dolby). The other choices don't come up, such as game mode, llx, or the other 5 speaker choices. Once I turn off the PS3, those modes are now available.

How do I fix this??!!!

If you have your PS3 set to output audio via PCM (which you should since it cannot bitstream all the HD codecs) the only thing it's going to say on the receiver is MULTI PCM or Multichannel PCM. It isn't going to read DTS-MA or TrueHD. This is because the PS3 is doing the decoding, sending it to the 805, and the 805 plays it. Since the 805 isn't doing the decoding, it doesn't know what codec format is being sent.

As for why it's saying THX cinema, I'll admit I'm stumped unless it's getting a 2.0 channel stereo signal. In that case it'd switch to one of those listening modes to simulate a surround sound environment.

*edit* Wait, am I reading that you have 5 speakers and not a 5.1 system? I wonder if that's what's causing it, as it sees that you don't have a true surround setup and is downmixing or choosing a 2.0 option. Curious, when you play a movie on the PS3 and hit the display button, what audio codec does it show?

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by 20sx

I too have a PS3 and the onkyo 805 (5 speaker setup). When I play a movie, the only choice I have is THX cinema. It doesn't display what format I have set for it (DTS or Dolby). The other choices don't come up, such as game mode, llx, or the other 5 speaker choices. Once I turn off the PS3, those modes are now available.

How do I fix this??!!!

I hope that you are using an HDMI connection and that your "BD/DVD Settings" and "BD/DVD Audio Output (HDMI)" is set to "Linear PCM." Otherwise, typing this is a waste of my time. If you are using optical for your audio, change that as soon as possible.

First, make sure that in your PS3 settings, all audio options are checked off in the "Sound Settings" and then "Audio Output Options" and then "HDMI" and then "Manual." Next, make sure that your remote is set for receiver functionality by pressing the "RECEIVER" button listed under the "REMOTE MODE" section of the remote. Then, once you have the movie playing, press the "SURR" button located under the "LISTENING MODE" section of the remote. That should bring it out of "THX Cinema" mode and into. Like mentioned above, the PS3 will always send a PCM signal to your receiver, so "MULTI CH" listed on your receiver's front panel means that you are getting the full sound spectrum (that is, so long as you have selected the proper soundtrack from the Blu-ray or DVD menu).

So, just to clarify... Onkyo front panel reads "MULTI CH." Press the select button on the PS3 controller during video playback and see what audio track is listed to the left of the top right information bar. That is EXACTLY what you are hearing despite the Onkyo stating "MULTI CH."

Any other questions?