$10K High-end Digital Downloads... better than blu-ray

[conradjohnsonfan]

This is a high-end server solution, albeit you can get into it for under 10 grand is my guess...

But, it foreshadows the future in many ways. My only real questions about this are regarding the audio formats. But, with 45mbs 1080p, HDMI 1.3 and Deep Color, the video should be out of this world.

Also of interesting note, those with mega-bucks to shell out can get same day as the theatrical release in Digital Cinema DCI format for 500 to 1000 bucks a movie, with a limited viewing window.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post14624650

[dpomp]

Originally Posted by conradjohnsonfan

This is a high-end server solution, albeit you can get into it for under 10 grand is my guess...

But, it foreshadows the future in many ways. My only real questions about this are regarding the audio formats. But, with 45mbs 1080p, HDMI 1.3 and Deep Color, the video should be out of this world.

Also of interesting note, those with mega-bucks to shell out can get same day as the theatrical release in Digital Cinema DCI format for 500 to 1000 bucks a movie, with a limited viewing window.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post14624650

digital downloads?? why didn't i think of that??

[conradjohnsonfan]

Originally Posted by dpompeo

digital downloads?? why didn't i think of that??

The point is they are high quality digital downloads, and they are here already. My worries about digital download is that it will be "good enough" for the average consumer, but fall short of blu-ray quality.

This gives hope.

[SonOfaBlu]

Originally Posted by dpompeo

digital downloads?? why didn't i think of that??

lol

[Blu Titan]

I read $500 - $1000 dollars to watch day and date with the theater. This is the same info posted somewhere else from Home Theater Forum where the PQ was full of artifacts and defects even with the higher bitrates.

[conradjohnsonfan]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

I read $500 - $1000 dollars to watch day and date with the theater. This is the same info posted somewhere else from Home Theater Forum where the PQ was full of artifacts and defects even with the higher bitrates.

Seeing will be believing, but on paper it is impressive.

There is another company out there called Entertainment Experience that is touting a similar service, and over a 70TB, yes, 70TB server solution, and DCI color gamut. (Same as digital cinema).

[jkwest]

server size is all well and good...too bad people will be limited by the ISP's, though...

until Comcast, AT&T, Verizon etc. start opening up the pipes more, then this is still just that....a pipe dream.

[arush5268d]

Originally Posted by dpompeo

digital downloads?? why didn't i think of that??

because they aren't sold in pairs?

[conradjohnsonfan]

Originally Posted by jkwest

server size is all well and good...too bad people will be limited by the ISP's, though...

until Comcast, AT&T, Verizon etc. start opening up the pipes more, then this is still just that....a pipe dream.

There is ALSO talk of distributing the data via BD-ROM, downloadable to their proprietary server that would be in-home.

There is also talk of distribution via Hard Disk.

This is at the moment a high end solution for sure, and as far as the actual downloadable content it is only for the select few that have an un-restricted pipe to handle it. For myself, I figured at my maximum bandwidth it would take around 7 to 8 hours to download a 50GB data file. So that really isn't the issue, not so much as bandwidth restrictions imposed by ISP's.

But, it is an exciting idea, for sure.

[plee]

Originally Posted by conradjohnsonfan

There is ALSO talk of distributing the data via BD-ROM, downloadable to their proprietary server that would be in-home.

There is also talk of distribution via Hard Disk.

This is at the moment a high end solution for sure, and as far as the actual downloadable content it is only for the select few that have the pipe to handle it.

But, it is an exciting idea, for sure.

And that's what it will be "select few", it's priced out of most people budget...

[conradjohnsonfan]

Originally Posted by plee

And that's what it will be "select few", it's priced out of most people budget...

Granted, but it is still very interesting and exciting. These kinds of things, or at least benefits from their development, eventually trickle down to the rest of us.

[saprano]

Why all of a sudden these threads are popping up about something better than blu-ray? and this has to do with digital downloads, its not going to take over blu-ray ever!

[conradjohnsonfan]

Originally Posted by saprano

Why all of a sudden these threads are popping up about something better than blu-ray? and this has to do with digital downloads, its not going to take over blu-ray ever!

Because as wonderful as blu-ray is, it is NOT the end-all in technology. There will be bigger better things.

For those with the $$$$, the day that even higher quality media is available for their theaters is now, not later.

I love Blu-ray. I also will love anything that actually offers an even better experience.

It is amazing how the mention of digital download, or any tech that will succeed and likely super-cede blu-ray is greeted by so many as an attack on "their" precious format and is not worth discussion.

And yes, SOMETHING will take over blu-ray, someday. And it would not be surprising if it involves digital download. It is a short sighted statement to say it will never happen.

[quexos]

Originally Posted by saprano

Why all of a sudden these threads are popping up about something better than blu-ray? and this has to do with digital downloads, its not going to take over blu-ray ever!

Believe me it will be a long long time before this high end stuff is common place. Low end digital downloads are not yet common place.

[Anthony P]

Because as wonderful as blu-ray is, it is NOT the end-all in technology.

agree, now why are you here with something inferior telling us it is better?

1) the BW is less then BD
2) the BW is too high for DL and like the post you linked to mentions they think of distributing their films on BD50s .


In the end all it is is PR for a proprietary lower quality version of the movie meant to be bought on BD and installed on their very expensive propriatery server that might or might not ever make it to market.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by conradjohnsonfan

It is amazing how the mention of digital download, or any tech that will succeed and likely super-cede blu-ray is greeted by so many as an attack on "their" precious format and is not worth discussion.

And yes, SOMETHING will take over blu-ray, someday. And it would not be surprising if it involves digital download. It is a short sighted statement to say it will never happen.

There are certainly some that react that way. But, the main problem is dealing with those claiming the consumer will rush to downloads instead of the physical.

Unless its distributed on multiple BDs (or a pile of DVDs) the only way to get anything new and improved to market in any reasonable timeframe, is via downloads.

But, this is the exact opposite end of the consumer spectrum from Blu-ray's target. King of the mountain idiots perhaps will be scared, but it will do nothing to affect Blu-ray availability or adoption.

Gary

[dadkins]

Even if we all had 50mbps connections, downloading anything resembling a Blu-ray would be 1x at best.
Seeing as the latest craze for ISPs is to cap bandwidth consumption, that kind of throws a wrench in the whole High Definition downloads machinery.

Say a BD is 32GB on average...
I have a 16mbps connection.
7.2GB per hour(roughly)
4.5 hours downloading at full capacity for 1 movie?

Comcast is going to implement a 250GB cap(both ways combined) for me/us on Oct 1st.

Pulling down a few BDs would put a dent in that cap, right?
2 per week would break it.

PASS on the downloads!

We won't get into the whole burning to disc, transfer to other devices limitations, or the DRM involved.

[Bobby Henderson]

Originally Posted by conradjohnsonfan

This is a high-end server solution, albeit you can get into it for under 10 grand is my guess...

That cost doesn't include the many thousands, millions or even billions of dollars needed to beef up the Internet infrastructure in front of your connection to enable downloads at practical speeds.

Connect speeds of 30 million bits per second or faster will not be common for at least another 7 to 10 years.

Even when those connect speeds are common, lots of people will still want to buy their movies, music and software on packaged, physical media.

Originally Posted by conradjohnsonfan

Also of interesting note, those with mega-bucks to shell out can get same day as the theatrical release in Digital Cinema DCI format for 500 to 1000 bucks a movie, with a limited viewing window.

DCI "virtual print" rentals are for commercial movie theaters and movie industry screening rooms only. Even if someone had the deep pockets for the required server and projection equipment, that person would have a hard time getting access to D-cinema JPEG2000 movie content unless he operated a commercial theater or professional screening room.

[Mr. Cinema]

what if my hard drive fails and I lose hundreds of movies? Do I get to re-download those for free? One of the many, many unaswered questions about something that isn't here yet.

[tron3]

Oh brother, the red Kool-aid gang is back with their peanut FUDder & jelly.

See the "Creatures of Hard Media" link in my signature line? Click it, read it, believe it, period.

'nuff said.