Anybody have a Denon 1909 as me? - Blu-ray Forum

Y2K000 · 08-23-2008, 06:14 AM

Had a few questions and concerns since I bought a Denon 1909 reciever. Anybody else have one that could provide me answers.

Stratus5ss · 09-10-2008, 09:47 AM

I just bought one. I went through the speaker setup, but I think I need to learn a bit more to get the input settings the way I want them. I am not fond of the setup program. The sound quality is great. I am still getting used to the remote. I got mine at a Best Buy about 50 miles away. They only had one in the back. I did my research and picked the 1909. There is always going to be better buys on older models but this was the one for me. How do you like yours so far?

bhampton · 09-10-2008, 10:35 AM

I have a similar model (788) and may be able to help.

What's the question?

1909 and 788...

http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDeta...mageField.y=24

bhampton · 09-11-2008, 04:13 PM

OK,

The questions never showed up so this was just a "hey look I got one of these" type of posts?

...?

Y2K000 · 09-12-2008, 05:47 AM

I got my Denon 1909 working just great now. Im all set

Tempest · 09-12-2008, 01:38 PM

I am thinking of buying the 1909 and have a question.. If you hook up PS3 and SAT to the receiver through HDMI, then send HDMI from receiver to TV will the TV also have sound through the HDMI OUT? or do I have to hook up a secondary sound cable to the tv just to get audio to both the tv and receiver?

I am hoping that once I hook up the HDMI IN/OUT both receiver and tv will have sound?

Thanks

bhampton · 09-13-2008, 10:45 AM

That's a great question and I think the answer is ... it won't send out the sound.

On my 788 you choose if you want to process the HDMI audio or send it out to the TV. (The choices are TV or AMP) so you would have to toggle that each time you wanted to use the TV speakers and reset it each time you would rather use the AVR as a sound processor.

Kind of a drag... I would love to be wrong about this... I'll double check but seems like when I choose "TV" I wasn't getting sound anymore from the AVR and there was no "both" option.

-Brian

Tempest · 09-13-2008, 01:39 PM

I can't believe that we spend $500-650 on a receiver and it can't even play sound to the tv/reciever at the same time through HDMI hookups..

Other than this, how do you all like your 1909? Any complaints/problems? From what I have read online this seems like a great receiver.

bhampton · 09-14-2008, 08:06 PM

Well,

I've got the 788 which is similar but older than the 1909.

I love it. I'm fully happy with it.

Sure,... would be nice to have control of sending HDMI audio to the TV and the Surround System but in my case... I would never be sending the audio to a TV so it doesn't matter. (I use a projector so it's more like a monitor than a TV.)

-Brian

Tempest · 09-17-2008, 03:04 AM

Well I got my 1909 today.. (They left it on my porch for anyone to steal) But no one did.

I did find that I can select input source then put my receiver on stand by which turns the speakers off then sends the hdmi signal right to the TV so at night or when I am just watching cable tv I can have just tv speakers which is great. At least I don't have to hook up other audio cables or have my receiver/speakers on all the time to watch tv.

I must say I was really missing out not having lossless audio before.. This is my first time having a receiver that can play the HD Audio. I am more than impressed with the quality of the HD Audio and the 1909 receiver. Very happy with my choice of the Denon 1909.

I will research tomorrow at work to see if I am missing any settings when I set it up but it sounds fantastic already.

Now what to do with my old (non hdmi) Yamaha receiver that I replaced.. is there a market for these at all?

Pierre_London · 09-29-2008, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

I can't believe that we spend $500-650 on a receiver and it can't even play sound to the tv/reciever at the same time through HDMI hookups..

Other than this, how do you all like your 1909? Any complaints/problems? From what I have read online this seems like a great receiver.

Just got it last week to supply the audio part for my pioneer 60' plasma TV (at this price, they don't even provide speakers & stand... ok it's to be mounted on the wall and to a AV amp but even...).
Setup is not straight forward...
I've been struggling the whole Sunday afternoon trying to get some sound from the TV.. no success... I put a HDMI from TV to amp (to the Monitor HDMI connection) but nothing comes...
On the other hand, the PS3 works fine with a HDMI link (and get amazing sound when optimised - watch Lord of the rings... you are in the battle.. scaring..

)...
Do I have to use an audio cable in addition to the HDMI connection to watch TV ??????

It's so frustrating !!!
PLEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE..... HELPPPPPPPPP

Tempest · 09-29-2008, 01:30 PM

What I finally did was hook up the PS3 (HDMI) to the 1909 then (HDMI) from receiver to the TV.

I can't listen to sound from both TV and Reciever at the same time but if I turn the receiver on standby it turns the Receiver speakers off and passes audio/video to the TV speakers. So I can listen to the TV speakers at night or if I am just watching TV and listen to Reciver speakers if I am watching a movie.. which is more than enough sound (don't need TV speakers then).

I did have to turn on the HDMI Power Control or something named similar to get the standby to function this way on the reciever.

Am in love with Lossless audio now and refuse to buy any blu ray that does not have it.

Pierre_London · 09-29-2008, 02:03 PM

Tempest, my problem is that I don't have TV speakers...

Y2K000 · 09-29-2008, 07:07 PM

I only have my surround system on when I watch movies and play PS3. I do have my HDMI from my PS3 to the receiver, HDMI from my receiver to the TV. I think there is a setting to fix what you want to do. OR I think you can use an optical cable and make it work.

Colglizity · 09-29-2008, 07:23 PM

Can you post a pic of your new awesome reciever. I've seen some bad internet pictures and would love to see a good pic. Thanks if you do.

Pierre_London · 09-30-2008, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y2K000

I only have my surround system on when I watch movies and play PS3. I do have my HDMI from my PS3 to the receiver, HDMI from my receiver to the TV. I think there is a setting to fix what you want to do. OR I think you can use an optical cable and make it work.

I just connect the teh optical cable and it works fine... But I thought HDMI was carrying Video AND audio... it seems not.. I fiddled with all the 5 millions parameters

but could not figure out what was wrong.. at least I can watch tv now !!!
Thanks guys.

Tempest · 10-01-2008, 03:39 AM

How many HDMI slots do you have on your TV? I know my TV has one HDMI that is made for DVI->HDMI cable and it expects the audio to come from other cables when you use that certain HDMI. The other HDMI hookup on my TV is normal and accepts both video/audio.

Another thing I have noticed about the Denon 1909. I was using the Audyssey Settings Dynamic EQ/Volume and loved the results but on some movies I can not use this mode because of loud pops and instead have to switch the mode to Manual with Dynamic EQ/Volume off.. This still sounds good but not sure why some soundtracks have this effect.

Transformers - No problems at all with Dynamic EQ
Iron Man - Can't use Dynamic EQ at all.. sounds like crap and loud pops
Eragon - Can't use Dynamic EQ
Troy - No problems
King Arthur - No Problems

Haven't tested all my movies with HD sound yet as I just recently got the Denon 1909. Anyone else found this problem as well or do you just use Manual mode always?

redboxcar · 10-01-2008, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

Another thing I have noticed about the Denon 1909. I was using the Audyssey Settings Dynamic EQ/Volume and loved the results but on some movies I can not use this mode because of loud pops and instead have to switch the mode to Manual with Dynamic EQ/Volume off.. This still sounds good but not sure why some soundtracks have this effect.

Haven't tested all my movies with HD sound yet as I just recently got the Denon 1909. Anyone else found this problem as well or do you just use Manual mode always?

I have a Denon 1909 and I don't even know how to change the settings on the thing! Haha... If you can tell me how to change these settings, I can test it out!

Pierre_London · 10-01-2008, 04:33 PM

Actually, I have 3 HDMI but I have not checked if they are all the same. I assum it... But I will check tonight...

And actually, I also have a funny effect... when using my universal remote and switching on the tv the sound is cut... I have to move it up (or down) to hear a little "Click" from the denon and the sound comes !! weird... anybody has experienced that ? Is it another "HDMI side effect" ?

Y2K000 · 10-01-2008, 05:36 PM

I have no issues with my reciever that you are having

08-23-2008, 06:14 AM	#1
Y2K000 Active Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Racine, Wisconsin Blu-ray collection:26 Trading Score:1	Anybody have a Denon 1909 as me? Had a few questions and concerns since I bought a Denon 1909 reciever. Anybody else have one that could provide me answers.

09-10-2008, 09:47 AM	#2
Stratus5ss New Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray reviews:4	Denon AVR-1909 I just bought one. I went through the speaker setup, but I think I need to learn a bit more to get the input settings the way I want them. I am not fond of the setup program. The sound quality is great. I am still getting used to the remote. I got mine at a Best Buy about 50 miles away. They only had one in the back. I did my research and picked the 1909. There is always going to be better buys on older models but this was the one for me. How do you like yours so far?

09-10-2008, 10:35 AM	#3
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	I have a similar model (788) and may be able to help. What's the question? 1909 and 788... http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDeta...mageField.y=24 Last edited by bhampton; 09-10-2008 at 12:23 PM.

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09-11-2008, 04:13 PM	#4
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	OK, The questions never showed up so this was just a "hey look I got one of these" type of posts? ...?

09-12-2008, 05:47 AM	#5
Y2K000 Active Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Racine, Wisconsin Blu-ray collection:26 Trading Score:1	I got my Denon 1909 working just great now. Im all set

09-12-2008, 01:38 PM	#6
Tempest Senior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Blu-ray collection:223 Blu-ray reviews:7	I am thinking of buying the 1909 and have a question.. If you hook up PS3 and SAT to the receiver through HDMI, then send HDMI from receiver to TV will the TV also have sound through the HDMI OUT? or do I have to hook up a secondary sound cable to the tv just to get audio to both the tv and receiver? I am hoping that once I hook up the HDMI IN/OUT both receiver and tv will have sound? Thanks

09-13-2008, 10:45 AM	#7
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	That's a great question and I think the answer is ... it won't send out the sound. On my 788 you choose if you want to process the HDMI audio or send it out to the TV. (The choices are TV or AMP) so you would have to toggle that each time you wanted to use the TV speakers and reset it each time you would rather use the AVR as a sound processor. Kind of a drag... I would love to be wrong about this... I'll double check but seems like when I choose "TV" I wasn't getting sound anymore from the AVR and there was no "both" option. -Brian

09-13-2008, 01:39 PM	#8
Tempest Senior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Blu-ray collection:223 Blu-ray reviews:7	I can't believe that we spend $500-650 on a receiver and it can't even play sound to the tv/reciever at the same time through HDMI hookups.. Other than this, how do you all like your 1909? Any complaints/problems? From what I have read online this seems like a great receiver.

09-14-2008, 08:06 PM	#9
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	Well, I've got the 788 which is similar but older than the 1909. I love it. I'm fully happy with it. Sure,... would be nice to have control of sending HDMI audio to the TV and the Surround System but in my case... I would never be sending the audio to a TV so it doesn't matter. (I use a projector so it's more like a monitor than a TV.) -Brian

09-17-2008, 03:04 AM	#10
Tempest Senior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Blu-ray collection:223 Blu-ray reviews:7	Well I got my 1909 today.. (They left it on my porch for anyone to steal) But no one did. I did find that I can select input source then put my receiver on stand by which turns the speakers off then sends the hdmi signal right to the TV so at night or when I am just watching cable tv I can have just tv speakers which is great. At least I don't have to hook up other audio cables or have my receiver/speakers on all the time to watch tv. I must say I was really missing out not having lossless audio before.. This is my first time having a receiver that can play the HD Audio. I am more than impressed with the quality of the HD Audio and the 1909 receiver. Very happy with my choice of the Denon 1909. I will research tomorrow at work to see if I am missing any settings when I set it up but it sounds fantastic already. Now what to do with my old (non hdmi) Yamaha receiver that I replaced.. is there a market for these at all?

09-29-2008, 01:30 PM	#12
Tempest Senior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Blu-ray collection:223 Blu-ray reviews:7	What I finally did was hook up the PS3 (HDMI) to the 1909 then (HDMI) from receiver to the TV. I can't listen to sound from both TV and Reciever at the same time but if I turn the receiver on standby it turns the Receiver speakers off and passes audio/video to the TV speakers. So I can listen to the TV speakers at night or if I am just watching TV and listen to Reciver speakers if I am watching a movie.. which is more than enough sound (don't need TV speakers then). I did have to turn on the HDMI Power Control or something named similar to get the standby to function this way on the reciever. Am in love with Lossless audio now and refuse to buy any blu ray that does not have it.

09-29-2008, 02:03 PM	#13
Pierre_London New Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:London	Tempest, my problem is that I don't have TV speakers...

09-29-2008, 07:07 PM	#14
Y2K000 Active Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Racine, Wisconsin Blu-ray collection:26 Trading Score:1	I only have my surround system on when I watch movies and play PS3. I do have my HDMI from my PS3 to the receiver, HDMI from my receiver to the TV. I think there is a setting to fix what you want to do. OR I think you can use an optical cable and make it work.

09-29-2008, 07:23 PM	#15
Colglizity Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Washington (360) Home Theater Gallery:40 Blu-ray collection:31 Blu-ray reviews:3	Can you post a pic of your new awesome reciever. I've seen some bad internet pictures and would love to see a good pic. Thanks if you do.

10-01-2008, 03:39 AM	#17
Tempest Senior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Blu-ray collection:223 Blu-ray reviews:7	How many HDMI slots do you have on your TV? I know my TV has one HDMI that is made for DVI->HDMI cable and it expects the audio to come from other cables when you use that certain HDMI. The other HDMI hookup on my TV is normal and accepts both video/audio. Another thing I have noticed about the Denon 1909. I was using the Audyssey Settings Dynamic EQ/Volume and loved the results but on some movies I can not use this mode because of loud pops and instead have to switch the mode to Manual with Dynamic EQ/Volume off.. This still sounds good but not sure why some soundtracks have this effect. Transformers - No problems at all with Dynamic EQ Iron Man - Can't use Dynamic EQ at all.. sounds like crap and loud pops Eragon - Can't use Dynamic EQ Troy - No problems King Arthur - No Problems Haven't tested all my movies with HD sound yet as I just recently got the Denon 1909. Anyone else found this problem as well or do you just use Manual mode always?

10-01-2008, 04:33 PM	#19
Pierre_London New Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:London	Actually, I have 3 HDMI but I have not checked if they are all the same. I assum it... But I will check tonight... And actually, I also have a funny effect... when using my universal remote and switching on the tv the sound is cut... I have to move it up (or down) to hear a little "Click" from the denon and the sound comes !! weird... anybody has experienced that ? Is it another "HDMI side effect" ?

10-01-2008, 05:36 PM	#20
Y2K000 Active Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Racine, Wisconsin Blu-ray collection:26 Trading Score:1	I have no issues with my reciever that you are having

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