On TV HD...yes. Out in Stores...NO?

[carpaltonnel]

Okay I'm not sure if this topic has ever been brought up but I was wondering if someone could explain to me how/why I am watching "Jaws" in HD (and countless other films) and I still can't buy them in the stores? There is probably a simple answer but I just don't get it. "Jaws" looks pretty darn good on HBO HD (TV says it's in 1080i) Whats the deal here?

[carpaltonnel]

Refreshing once, (I swear) I really want to know what the deal is on this topic

[thedarkangel1975]

Studio (universal) has not put it for sale yet on Blu for the public to buy.

[MCT]

[carpaltonnel]

Originally Posted by thedarkangel1975

Studio (universal) has not put it for sale yet on Blu for the public to buy.

Yeah, I get that. But It's not just "Jaws" I'm talking about, all the HD films on TV. I don't know, it just annoys me a bit that it's that easy for them to air it on TV but you can't buy it. Thanks for your reply. (Shrugs)

[P@t_Mtl]

There is quite a few movies available to be watch on HDTV but not yet ready for BD. I am not sure what the reasons for all of them would be. A lot of it could be that there is more work to be done on them before transfering them on BD??

[bongzilla]

Do companies like TWC, dish, directv upscale prehaps?
IDK

[Afrobean]

The thing is that back in the day, they'd do a HD scan for a DVD release. These HD scans have found their way into broadcast on HD channels.

That's why they show in HD on TV. They pulled HD transfers last time they did work with the film, so a digital HD master is available, but in many cases, they're simply not ready to release it on Blu-ray (or they believe there isn't a market for it). In the case of something like Jaws, they may well be waiting to do a full-on remaster for it.

It's a similar case with TV shows aired in HD that don't get released. Just because there exists a digital HD version of a thing doesn't mean that thing is going to be instantly put out on Blu-ray.

[Rblu-Dblu]

Watched Bad Boys 2 on USA HD this morning. Still waiting on the blu to be released. Its really baffling when it's one of the movies shown in the bluray commercial.

[dolphinc]

I beleive it is just upscaled to 1080i. It's like TNT which makes me sick half the time when they claim they are broadcasting a movie in HD and it's all stretched out. I F****** hate that. Looks horrible.

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by dolphinc

I beleive it is just upscaled to 1080i. It's like TNT which makes me sick half the time when they claim they are broadcasting a movie in HD and it's all stretched out. I F****** hate that. Looks horrible.

Not necessarily upscaled. TV stations can get HD Television masters(usually previous DVD masters at 1080i(p)) specifically for presenting these films on television. They may be using the original broadcast master(4:3) on their hd channel, but it should be clear if your television is stretching that material.

[dolphinc]

Originally Posted by kpkelley

Not necessarily upscaled. TV stations can get HD Television masters(usually previous DVD masters at 1080i(p)) specifically for presenting these films on television. They may be using the original broadcast master(4:3) on their hd channel, but it should be clear if your television is stretching that material.

TNT seems to be the worst with that. It must be a scaled down version through because even movies that are on blu look 10x better than the HD broadcast version. TDK was on HBO last week and it looked good but not even close to the blu. I guess they compress it while broadcasting which can strip some of the quality?

[dcowboy7]

Yea TBS or TNT stretched "crimson tide" last nite....yuk.

Either:
a) do 4x3
b) do 16x9

but dont stretch 4x3 to fit 16x9.

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by dolphinc

TNT seems to be the worst with that. It must be a scaled down version through because even movies that are on blu look 10x better than the HD broadcast version. I guess they compress it while broadcasting which can strip some of the quality?

All cable stations are compressed significantly because they need to fit multiple channel feeds over the coaxial cable. Most upscaled DVDs would significantly improve on TNT HD broadcasts, let alone their blu counterparts.

[dolphinc]

Originally Posted by kpkelley

All cable stations are compressed significantly because they need to fit multiple channel feeds over the coaxial cable. Most upscaled DVDs would significantly improve on TNT HD broadcasts, let alone their blu counterparts.

I have Directv HD and it looks the same, is it just a general rule to compress the broadcast?

[dolphinc]

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

Yea TBS or TNT stretched "crimson tide" last nite....yuk.

Either:
a) do 4x3
b) do 16x9

but dont stretch 4x3 to fit 16x9.

Yeah, it looks so bad. I would rather go out to Wallmart and buy a 26" crt than to watch that on my current tv's.

[GeneD5]

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

Yea TBS or TNT stretched "crimson tide" last nite....yuk.

Either:
a) do 4x3
b) do 16x9

but dont stretch 4x3 to fit 16x9.

(gives a standing round of applause)

[Galley]

There are films that have been broadcast in HD that have never been available on DVD ("The Legend of Billie Jean").

[Canuck21]

Originally Posted by carpaltonnel

Okay I'm not sure if this topic has ever been brought up but I was wondering if someone could explain to me how/why I am watching "Jaws" in HD (and countless other films) and I still can't buy them in the stores? There is probably a simple answer but I just don't get it. "Jaws" looks pretty darn good on HBO HD (TV says it's in 1080i) Whats the deal here?

What kind of a question is this? Isn't it obvious? Just because it's ready in HD doesn't mean the studio has to release it to the public consumption.

Originally Posted by MCT

You can show that again.

[Diesel]

Did anyone see when Independence Day played on TBS "HD"

First of all, its the 4:3 image stretched, second, the image looks like absolute CRAP

But that was only one time, the next time they played it, it was 16x9 and looked good.