whatever happened to PCM

[Lord_Stewie]

hey guys,

its been a while for me to follow up on news and etc....

but I was wondering what is going on with the Whole uncompressed PCM being provided with the new releases for a while.

I kinda wanted to have PCM with the Dark Knight. it would have been better. wouldn't it.

[JJ]

They are all the same thing. Seriously. The DTS-HD MA and TrueHD just take up less disc space, allowing for better extras and/or increase in PQ.

[Lord_Stewie]

Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

They are all the same thing. Seriously. The DTS-HD MA and TrueHD just take up less disc space, allowing for better extras and/or increase in PQ.

are you saying they gave it up for increase in PQ?

[JJ]

No, no, I'm saying that they gave it up to allow there to be more space on the disc whether for extras or PQ. Whether they actually use the space, I'm not knowledgeable enough on the policies and practices of film companies to comment on that.

Brett, they are the same. Hold on, I'm going to see if I can find this onepost from one of our audio insiders that clears up this common misconception that they are different...

[Lord_Stewie]

Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

No, no, I'm saying that they gave it up to allow there to be more space on the disc whether for extras or PQ. Whether they actually use the space, I'm not knowledgeable enough on the policies and practices of film companies to comment on that.

Brett, they are the same. Hold on, I'm going to see if I can find this onepost from one of our audio insiders that clears up this common misconception that they are different...

let me know I am still somewhat confused about this. I mean I know what you are saying, but i thought the reason for the space in a single BD disc is to utilize both PQ and AQ, which is why I went for BD rather than HDDVD. to me without the Best AQ provided then PQ means nothing to me. they both complete each other if you know what i mean.

[brett_day]

Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

No, no, I'm saying that they gave it up to allow there to be more space on the disc whether for extras or PQ. Whether they actually use the space, I'm not knowledgeable enough on the policies and practices of film companies to comment on that.

Brett, they are the same. Hold on, I'm going to see if I can find this onepost from one of our audio insiders that clears up this common misconception that they are different...

not doubting dude, just wondering, but will good to see the article, always good to learn something new

[saprano]

DTS-MA and dolby TrueHD are both PCM, there just compressed first then uncompressed to save disc space. PCM is raw with no mix being done, its just gets thrown on the disc.

But having said that i happen to like dts and PCM over DTHD.

[brett_day]

Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

They are all the same thing. Seriously. The DTS-HD MA and TrueHD just take up less disc space, allowing for better extras and/or increase in PQ.

how are they the same? just thinking that if they take up less disc space that means that dts-hd ma true hd are compressed more than pcm correct? if so then how are they the same, surely their quality would be slightly worse?

[TENSE]

Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

They are all the same thing. Seriously. The DTS-HD MA and TrueHD just take up less disc space, allowing for better extras and/or increase in PQ.

no they are not!

[JJ]

Originally Posted by TENSE

no they are not!

Sigh. Read up on Big Daddy's explanation and go over to the sound insiders threads on the Insider Forum if you don't want to believe me. They are the same. But, I doubt you will even if the Almighty were to say:



Look here, all of you, they are the same.

[saprano]

Haha

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by shadblz

I kinda wanted to have PCM with the Dark Knight. it would have been better. wouldn't it.

Short answer: no.

Matter of fact the video may have looked slightly worse.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Short answer: no.

Matter of fact the video may have looked slightly worse.

Huh? the pirates series says ahoy

or did you mean because of WB?

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by saprano

Huh? the pirates series says ahoy

or did you mean because of WB?

Less video bandwidth.

Plus the Pirates films were a direct digital transfer off a graded digital intermediate. Much easier to compress than TDK.

[Sith]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Short answer: no.

Matter of fact the video may have looked slightly worse.

I'm gonna be honest, the IMAX scenes are basically perfect in Dark Knight...

But the black bar scenes that are the bulk of the movie would barely get a 4
IMO....Maybe I'm just pissed at Warner....But it definately wasn't as clean
as say Ironman or Incredible Hulk, except for the IMAX...