Need Help LN52A650!?!?!? - Blu-ray Forum

Alpha Sixx · 04-09-2009, 03:12 PM

OK I bought the Samsung LN52A650 about 2 weeks ago with 4 year warranty. I took it home and it has a great picture. But when I put the 120hz to high, the picture is way better than my other 60hz hd tv's and almost 3D like and adds much more depth and is much more fluid with what I am watching or playing but the picture blurs and flickers when something moves faster than normal. I thought the 120hz was for faster movment. It does this also for my XBOX 360 wich has the $100 dollar XBOX HDMI cord and my PS3 wich has the $100 dollar PS3 HDMI cord and also my LG BH200 Blu Ray/HD player that I have the $160 dollar 1,000 Monster HDMI cord for. I called Geek Squad and they just transfered me directly over to Samsung, wich did not answer. I was pressed for time at the moment because I had just gotton back home from a yearlong deployment in Iraq a few days earlier and was just about to go home for leave the next day. So right now my TV is in FT Hood/Killeen Tx and I am in Houston on leave. My question is does anyone elses LN52A650 do the same thing or should I take it back as soon as I get back home? Any help would be greatly aprecciated!!!

tlmaclennan · 04-09-2009, 03:30 PM

First, I would like to say that you have been ripped off. There is no reason that you need to spend $100+ on an HDMI cable. That is a scam that many of us have seen. Monoprice.com supplies cheap HDMI cables that work just the same as your expensive cables.

As far as the 120hz setting, I would just leave it off. I find that it serves little to no purpose. When shopping for a new TV I ended up getting a non-120hz TV because I felt it looked horrible. Now becasue I don't have a 120hz TV I can't help but I know I've heard of people turning off the Auto Motion Plus feature, if you can. I think the TV still operates at 120hz, that is a hardware setting. But the Auto Motion Plus feature is software based and I have heard it does not work well.

Fors* · 04-09-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpha Sixx

OK I bought the Samsung LN52A650 about 2 weeks ago with 4 year warranty. I took it home and it has a great picture. But when I put the 120hz to high the picture blurs and flickers when something moves slightly faster than normal. It does this also for my XBOX 360 wich has the $100 dollar XBOX HDMI cord and my PS3 wich has the $100 dollar PS3 HDMI cord and also my LG BH200 Blu Ray/HD player that I have the $160 dollar 1,000 Monster HDMI cord for. I called Geek Squad and they just transfered me directly over to Samsung, wich did not answer. I was pressed for time at the moment because I had just gotton back home from a yearlong deployment in Iraq a few days earlier and was just about to go home for leave the next day. So right now my TV is in FT Hood/Killeen Tx and I am in Houston on leave. My question is does anyone elses LN52A650 do the same thing or should I take it back as soon as I get back home? Any help would be greatly aprecciated!!!

May I ask what type of TV programming you are watching when the flickering and blurs appear? Is it the same type? (i.e. sports or movies or regular TV, etc...)

Bluubyu · 04-09-2009, 03:50 PM

I like my auto motion plus, it took me a bit to get use to it but now I can't watch tv without it on. I must say though I don't notice blurring but I do have the A950 maybe that makes a difference? Ya you got ripped off on your cables dude!!

Alpha Sixx · 04-09-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluubyu

I like my auto motion plus, it took me a bit to get use to it but now I can't watch tv without it on. I must say though I don't notice blurring but I do have the A950 maybe that makes a difference? Ya you got ripped off on your cables dude!!

Cmon guys I got the cables like 3 years ago and they have served their purpose and put in their time and work. One of my best friends bought a cheap 20 dollar hdmi cord and his pictuere kept fluddering and flickering really bad so we went back and bought a 60 dollar 3 foot monster and it solved the problem. But im not asking about the cables, I mentioned them only becuse the 1st question anyone asks is about my HDMI cables. And I like my cables becuse they are thicker than most and they are about 8-9 feet long and have taken a beating in shipping becuse I take all that stuff back and forth to Iraq with me.

Alpha Sixx · 04-09-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by forsberg21

May I ask what type of TV programming you are watching when the flickering and blurs appear? Is it the same type? (i.e. sports or movies or regular TV, etc...)

It flickers when watching blurays and playing video games.

Coov · 04-09-2009, 04:25 PM

I have the 52 inch 650 and have had no problems. I also love the 120Hz on high and keep it that way. Sounds like you might have to get it repaired or returned. I hate that for ya. Such a beautiful TV to only have it partly work.

Alpha Sixx · 04-09-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Coov

I have the 52 inch 650 and have had no problems. I also love the 120Hz on high and keep it that way. Sounds like you might have to get it repaired or returned. I hate that for ya. Such a beautiful TV to only have it partly work.

OK thanks Im just checking to see if others with the same tv have the same problem. So I can tell if I have to take it back or not.

StimpsonJCat · 04-09-2009, 04:33 PM

What resolution is the PS3 sending? Is it 1080/24p or 1080/60p?

Alpha Sixx · 04-09-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by StimpsonJCat

What resolution is the PS3 sending? Is it 1080/24p or 1080/60p?

I don't know. But my 360 and blu ray player also do the same. How do I check it or change it?

StimpsonJCat · 04-09-2009, 04:38 PM

The Sammy should display what it is getting when the movie starts. You can also see what the PS3 is sending, but I forget the button to get that. There is one that displays video/audio being sent.

StimpsonJCat · 04-09-2009, 04:40 PM

Also, you have to find the menu for Video Output in the PS3 menus (I could find it at home, but not off the top of my head). I think you want to play games at 60p instead of 24p.

StimpsonJCat · 04-09-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpha Sixx

I don't know. But my 360 and blu ray player also do the same. How do I check it or change it?

Ok I think I found it online:
For the PS3:
SETTINGS > DISPLAY SETTINGS > VIDEO OUTPUT SETTINGS

What is this setting?

Alpha Sixx · 04-09-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by StimpsonJCat

Also, you have to find the menu for Video Output in the PS3 menus (I could find it at home, but not off the top of my head). I think you want to play games at 60p instead of 24p.

Ok i just looked at my ps3 and found it but it only gives me the option for 24hz and ther is no option for 60hz. Maybe becuse I bought it as soon as it came out and they did not put that option back then. It is the 60 gig ps3.

StimpsonJCat · 04-09-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpha Sixx

Ok i just looked at my ps3 and found it but it only gives me the option for 24hz and ther is no option for 60hz. Maybe becuse I bought it as soon as it came out and they did not put that option back then. It is the 60 gig ps3.

What are the options? (Automatic, etc..) All of them will do 60p. If you have it set to 24p you might try turning it off or on automatic.

Also make sure it is set for HDMI Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr instead of RGB

blurayisking · 04-09-2009, 04:50 PM

Alpha Sixx:

Before you decide to return the TV, try setting the motion-flow to LOW and see if you prefer that setting.

I'm in the midst of a 2 year search for a new TV and one of the questions that I raised to a Samsung dealer was this issue about motion-flow and remember them saying that setting this too high is not the best choice.

tlmaclennan · 04-09-2009, 04:55 PM

Yea, I would suggests toning the auto motion plus settings. Check out the official thread they have a AVS forums, it notes that too high of a setting will cause motion artifacts.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1007540

StimpsonJCat · 04-09-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tlmaclennan

Yea, I would suggests toning the auto motion plus settings. Check out the official thread they have a AVS forums, it notes that too high of a setting will cause motion artifacts.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1007540

I would turn it down (I don't really like the look of it anyways. I've seen it on the LN46A630 I got my in-laws). It kind of looks cool, but it takes away the film like feel and I couldn't deal with that all the time. Also, I don't think it plays well with 24p, so if you want to use the Auto Motion software I would turn 24p off. You can always try different combinations to see what works for you.

Also you are not losing the advantage of a 120Hz TV by turning this feature off. It just isn't applying the auto motion software.

StimpsonJCat · 04-09-2009, 05:12 PM

Just remembered there are settings under Blu-ray playback as well. Might check those if you haven't yet.

Alpha Sixx · 04-09-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blurayisking

Alpha Sixx:

Before you decide to return the TV, try setting the motion-flow to LOW and see if you prefer that setting.

I'm in the midst of a 2 year search for a new TV and one of the questions that I raised to a Samsung dealer was this issue about motion-flow and remember them saying that setting this too high is not the best choice.

The picture looks really good on med and there is no blur. but it looks a little better on high to me on certain aplications. I was just wondering was this common on high or was it just on my tv.

04-09-2009, 03:12 PM	#1
Alpha Sixx Senior Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Originally Houston Tx, Now living in Hawaii! Home Theater Gallery:97	Need Help LN52A650!?!?!? OK I bought the Samsung LN52A650 about 2 weeks ago with 4 year warranty. I took it home and it has a great picture. But when I put the 120hz to high, the picture is way better than my other 60hz hd tv's and almost 3D like and adds much more depth and is much more fluid with what I am watching or playing but the picture blurs and flickers when something moves faster than normal. I thought the 120hz was for faster movment. It does this also for my XBOX 360 wich has the $100 dollar XBOX HDMI cord and my PS3 wich has the $100 dollar PS3 HDMI cord and also my LG BH200 Blu Ray/HD player that I have the $160 dollar 1,000 Monster HDMI cord for. I called Geek Squad and they just transfered me directly over to Samsung, wich did not answer. I was pressed for time at the moment because I had just gotton back home from a yearlong deployment in Iraq a few days earlier and was just about to go home for leave the next day. So right now my TV is in FT Hood/Killeen Tx and I am in Houston on leave. My question is does anyone elses LN52A650 do the same thing or should I take it back as soon as I get back home? Any help would be greatly aprecciated!!! Last edited by Alpha Sixx; 04-09-2009 at 04:17 PM.

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04-09-2009, 03:30 PM	#2
tlmaclennan Senior Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Garden Grove, CA Home Theater Gallery:21 Blu-ray collection:121 Trading Score:1	First, I would like to say that you have been ripped off. There is no reason that you need to spend $100+ on an HDMI cable. That is a scam that many of us have seen. Monoprice.com supplies cheap HDMI cables that work just the same as your expensive cables. As far as the 120hz setting, I would just leave it off. I find that it serves little to no purpose. When shopping for a new TV I ended up getting a non-120hz TV because I felt it looked horrible. Now becasue I don't have a 120hz TV I can't help but I know I've heard of people turning off the Auto Motion Plus feature, if you can. I think the TV still operates at 120hz, that is a hardware setting. But the Auto Motion Plus feature is software based and I have heard it does not work well.

04-09-2009, 03:50 PM	#4
Bluubyu Active Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Scottsdale, Arizona Home Theater Gallery:3 4K collection:7 Blu-ray collection:208	I like my auto motion plus, it took me a bit to get use to it but now I can't watch tv without it on. I must say though I don't notice blurring but I do have the A950 maybe that makes a difference? Ya you got ripped off on your cables dude!!

04-09-2009, 04:25 PM	#7
Coov Active Member Member since:Dec 2008 4K collection:282 Blu-ray collection:379	I have the 52 inch 650 and have had no problems. I also love the 120Hz on high and keep it that way. Sounds like you might have to get it repaired or returned. I hate that for ya. Such a beautiful TV to only have it partly work.

04-09-2009, 04:33 PM	#9
StimpsonJCat Expert Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Texas Home Theater Gallery:5	What resolution is the PS3 sending? Is it 1080/24p or 1080/60p?

04-09-2009, 04:38 PM	#11
StimpsonJCat Expert Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Texas Home Theater Gallery:5	The Sammy should display what it is getting when the movie starts. You can also see what the PS3 is sending, but I forget the button to get that. There is one that displays video/audio being sent.

04-09-2009, 04:40 PM	#12
StimpsonJCat Expert Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Texas Home Theater Gallery:5	Also, you have to find the menu for Video Output in the PS3 menus (I could find it at home, but not off the top of my head). I think you want to play games at 60p instead of 24p.

04-09-2009, 04:50 PM	#16
blurayisking Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	Alpha Sixx: Before you decide to return the TV, try setting the motion-flow to LOW and see if you prefer that setting. I'm in the midst of a 2 year search for a new TV and one of the questions that I raised to a Samsung dealer was this issue about motion-flow and remember them saying that setting this too high is not the best choice.

04-09-2009, 04:55 PM	#17
tlmaclennan Senior Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Garden Grove, CA Home Theater Gallery:21 Blu-ray collection:121 Trading Score:1	Yea, I would suggests toning the auto motion plus settings. Check out the official thread they have a AVS forums, it notes that too high of a setting will cause motion artifacts. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1007540

04-09-2009, 05:12 PM	#19
StimpsonJCat Expert Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Texas Home Theater Gallery:5	Just remembered there are settings under Blu-ray playback as well. Might check those if you haven't yet.

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