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Old 08-16-2008, 02:47 AM   #1
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Why not a "Topic of the Week" forum?

Seriously, if it is such a problem, it means people want to talk about it, and merging threads into super threads is stupid as hell. Why is it every time someone wants to talk about something, it has to be pigeon holed into some mega thread?

If so many threads are such a problem that avid users cant avoid them (I cant fathom how you cant just not click on it, and half you guys are "forced" to bump it with a flame), them maybe a temp forum should be made for the topic of the week...

A WB/TDK forum would solve most of the flames here without ruining the integrity of the discussion. When you slap a question about makeup in with a question about plot into a 60 page thread, it is a disservice to blu-ray.com

To solve the problem with people who dont want to read it, just move them, dont pretend everything about the same topic is the same discussion. You would not want to be talking with your auto mechanic about your engine and have some doofus start talking about what tires he thinks are best.


Come on, enough with the stupid megathreads.
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:11 AM   #2
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Come on, enough with the stupid megathreads.
only way to avoid that is to tell people to stop posting and creating numerous threads on the same subject. There were enough TDK threads created that no more should ever be created.
Its not perfect, the forum isnt either as we have regulars then there are casual posters that dont know alot about forums, Thats why the mods merge threads and do the best with what they can.

I think it neatens the forums and makes it easy to navigate without having 100 TDK threads
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:22 AM   #3
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only way to avoid that is to tell people to stop posting and creating numerous threads on the same subject. There were enough TDK threads created that no more should ever be created.
Its not perfect, the forum isnt either as we have regulars then there are casual posters that dont know alot about forums, Thats why the mods merge threads and do the best with what they can.

I think it neatens the forums and makes it easy to navigate without having 100 TDK threads
It makes it (and this may be only my opinion, of course) impossible to navigate ANYTHING having to do with TDK, making the need for new threads more evident.

Page 36 of TDK megathread has a post that is the same as a post made on page 34. For anyone who wants to talk about that subject, filtering through the 1000+ posts on the movie is a waste of time. Like I said, topics are not the same just because they are both involved in TDK.

Could it be that the BD release has NOTHING to do with plot, or that it has nothing to do with a sequel?

Merges will be needed anyway, why not just move them to a new forum?

It just seems myopic to think that they should be in a "megathread"

It will go away when it goes away, anyway, so I think Topic of the Week is perfect.
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:33 AM   #4
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Page 36 of TDK megathread has a post that is the same as a post made on page 34. For anyone who wants to talk about that subject, filtering through the 1000+ posts on the movie is a waste of time. Like I said, topics are not the same just because they are both involved in TDK.
I personally have never read the thread, maybe do a weekly lock on the thread and provide links like they do with the hd rant thread
Personally, I think every possible angle has been covered with batman I am not sure what else could possible be discussed, That threads a mess

I did find myself posting in it only because of the merge effect dealing with this topic
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:13 AM   #5
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Why not a "Topic of the Week" forum?

Seriously, if it is such a problem, it means people want to talk about it, and merging threads into super threads is stupid as hell. Why is it every time someone wants to talk about something, it has to be pigeon holed into some mega thread?

If so many threads are such a problem that avid users cant avoid them (I cant fathom how you cant just not click on it, and half you guys are "forced" to bump it with a flame), them maybe a temp forum should be made for the topic of the week...

A WB/TDK forum would solve most of the flames here without ruining the integrity of the discussion. When you slap a question about makeup in with a question about plot into a 60 page thread, it is a disservice to blu-ray.com

To solve the problem with people who dont want to read it, just move them, dont pretend everything about the same topic is the same discussion. You would not want to be talking with your auto mechanic about your engine and have some doofus start talking about what tires he thinks are best.


Come on, enough with the stupid megathreads.
Tell us how you really feel.


Seriously though, I completely disagree. Every little nuance of TDK or Transformers doesn't need its own thread. It makes clutter and it pushes other important topics off the main page.
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:07 PM   #6
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I think if people weren't idiots, they wouldn't have to create these larger master threads. Even then, people are still idiots and STILL don't post in the sticky thread.

When people stop being morons and quick creating topics about The Dark Knight (and incredibly stupid and pointless ones at that), then the sticky threads can go away. However, that's not going to happen. Like I said, idiots are still not using the sticky thread. But guess what, there's 50+ threads merged into one now. So people don't have to look at "TDK this!" and "TDK That!"

Also, for the WB thread, since people keep whining about WB even though they've said they're working on getting better and the cry babies don't seem to understand that the discs coming out this week or next week weren't created over night, a thread like that is extremely nessisary in every way. We don't need polls about who thinks WB sucks, we don't need Lgans or whatever his name is posting his stupid bitrate thread crap for movies that have already been released. All of that, can now go into a thread that people like me who understand WB's position can simply avoid.
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:12 PM   #7
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These huge master threads are just fine. I support the decisions to merge all the redundant threads. And if anyone were to start a really unique, interesting thread with a new angle about the release, i guess the mods would let it run seperately. But imo most of what is being discussed can be discussed in one thread.
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:19 PM   #8
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Why not a "Topic of the Week" forum?
best idea i've seen in feedback for a long time. all threads related to the dark knight for instance could be thrown into this forum until the hype died down. the same could be done for anything else that has an unusual amount of posts being made.

and it obviously wouldn't be for one topic. seems wb could be thrown in for a little while too. and anything else that gets lots of press and duplicate threads.
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Old 08-17-2008, 02:21 AM   #9
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best idea i've seen in feedback for a long time. all threads related to the dark knight for instance could be thrown into this forum until the hype died down. the same could be done for anything else that has an unusual amount of posts being made.

and it obviously wouldn't be for one topic. seems wb could be thrown in for a little while too. and anything else that gets lots of press and duplicate threads.
It is nice that someone read and agrees.

I dont like to see TDK threads cloging up the boards, but I also dont like to have to druge through a 1000+ post thread to see if anything good was brought up.

It is all HYPE. None of it has any bearing on BD, it is just people who are excited about something. This month it is TDK and WB, Last month and next month it will be something else. When the threads get to be overbearing, just start chucking them into a hype-bin labled "Topic of the week"


No hurt feelers, no threads that become too bloated to use... It could be just under this forum, just a 4th topic in this box, even lock it to non-registared users.


MODs, as everyone has pointed out, will have to move threads from foolies anyway (no matter if there is a sticky or a new forum), so why not move them to a new forum where people who choose NEVER have to see them? Win win, IMHO.
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Old 08-17-2008, 02:43 AM   #10
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Actually, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea. At first I was just like "no, these threads absolutely cannot continue." Because holy crap, for a while there were 3 freaken Dark Knight threads created a day. And that was just in the movie section. Each one getting more and more pointless than the last one. But if we create a forum, the threads can just be moved to this other area (I shall call it "Pointless Random Talk Area" in my noggin) and not take up space in the movie section and other places.
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Old 08-17-2008, 04:05 AM   #11
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Right now in the "Blu-ray Movies and Releases" there are ELEVEN Stickys.

MAYBE 7 of them should be Stickied. There are THREE cottonpicking movie megathreads that you have to scroll through to get to anything you want to check out.


I understand the frustration of the multiple threads, but stickying is just as crappy IMHO.


I would rather have a "Topic of the week" forum than a Megathread sticky taking up a line on some other forum.

Every time I check a forum, I still have to sort through BS stickys, redundent threads or some other waste of space.

At least with a "Pointless Random Talk Area" (not to be confused with off topic) the forums you are interested in would not be cluttered with anything more than a "Moved" once in a while, right?

This way, the people who post silly crap still keep their threads seperate, so they are happy. You dont even have to scroll past the Megathread sticky line, so you are happy... etc.







Best part? When the next big thing happens, those hundred threads from EVERY FORUM here just get thrown into the new forum, at least until things calm down. It would even keep those nuts there once they start figuring out everything they do gets moved.




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Actually, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea. At first I was just like "no, these threads absolutely cannot continue." Because holy crap, for a while there were 3 freaken Dark Knight threads created a day. And that was just in the movie section. Each one getting more and more pointless than the last one. But if we create a forum, the threads can just be moved to this other area (I shall call it "Pointless Random Talk Area" in my noggin) and not take up space in the movie section and other places.

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Old 08-18-2008, 12:50 AM   #12
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Right now in the "Blu-ray Movies and Releases" there are ELEVEN Stickys.

MAYBE 7 of them should be Stickied. There are THREE cottonpicking movie megathreads that you have to scroll through to get to anything you want to check out.


I understand the frustration of the multiple threads, but stickying is just as crappy IMHO.


I would rather have a "Topic of the week" forum than a Megathread sticky taking up a line on some other forum.
I agree about the proliferation of stickied threads. Do we really need a Mummy master thread or a Criterion thread stickied at this point? Let these threads drop off the front page...
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I agree about the proliferation of stickied threads. Do we really need a Mummy master thread or a Criterion thread stickied at this point? Let these threads drop off the front page...
the overuse of stickies are a huge problem around here. i'm not sure why 1 month+ old threads are still stickied. imo there should never be more than 5 stickies at one time, and take a look around the forum and see how many have well over 5.

it might not be so bad if when i went to page 2 in a particular forum, that the stickies weren't at the top of the page still. some of the faster moving forums i belong to only have stickies show up on page one.

ah well
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:49 PM   #14
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No matter what else is thrown into the TDK mega thread, it all leads back to the same subject in the end. Having 1 mega thread of 1 big topic is a lot better than finding the first 5-6 pages of the forum is all or mostly talking about 1 movie. That's completely unnecessary, no matter what movie it is. As far as it having its own section, also completely unnecessary. It's just 1 movie, it doesn't need its own spotlight.
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to clarify, we're not suggesting a forum just for batman
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to clarify, we're not suggesting a forum just for batman
If you're talking about making a separate section just for that, that's a forum. What they have setup now is 1 big thread.
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If you're talking about making a separate section just for that, that's a forum. What they have setup now is 1 big thread.
again, we're not suggesting a forum JUST for batman
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:41 PM   #18
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If you're talking about making a separate section just for that, that's a forum. What they have setup now is 1 big thread.
"Topic of the Day/Week/Month".

Basically where topics would go to die.

The Mummy mega thread... still stickied? Why? Throw it in the topic of the week forum. The DK, still stickied? Why? Throw it in the topic of the week forum. Etc.

ANY topic that is getting more than 2 or 3 threads started in X number of days, get moved until the hype calms down




Like ol-boy said, not a Batman forum. Not a "WB bitrates suck" forum. A flavor of the hour forum. When one subject starts taking up a lot of space, purge it to a forum where the people who are interested can beat it to death, and the people who are not dont even have to scroll past it.





The more I think about the possibilities, the better I think it is.






EVERY board has an "off topic." A few of the boards I post a lot have "boxing rings" where mods only delete the very edge of offensiveness (ie racism)... But almost none have a forum where people can beat a supbject to death that is ON TOPIC, but that is bugging the majority of users...

The good think is, once a MOD moves it, it stays intact so the discussion can flow without interuption. When threads get merged, a MOD still has to do it, so same workload for them both ways....


I cant see how anyone likes that they have to scroll past a handful of stickied Megathreads every time they want to see if something new was posted in the unstickied part of the forum.
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I cant see how anyone likes that they have to scroll past a handful of stickied Megathreads every time they want to see if something new was posted in the unstickied part of the forum.
I agree with you, but at the same time, I can't see anyone liking the fact that when they have to manually search something on here, and the first couple of pages are all about 1 topic. That's not necessary.
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I agree with you, but at the same time, I can't see anyone liking the fact that when they have to manually search something on here, and the first couple of pages are all about 1 topic. That's not necessary.
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