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Old 04-03-2010, 05:08 AM   #1
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Default iron man auto DRC audio problem?

i bought it the day it came out and just upgraded my sound system. it sounds crappy, quite frankly. very soft, explosions are tame, etc. even my Sorority Row track is louder than this...
i rented it on netflix and the disc art is different, but the sound still is very tame. it's at -10 on my receiver and getting clear dialogue, but special effects are some of the softest i've heard on a blu-ray. is there something wrong with my player? receiver? disc? it's really loud with other movies such as sorority row, transformers, etc. but with this it's very tame...please help??

also, what's the difference between the two discs? the one i have is darker blue with white text. the one from netflix is lighter blue with silver (the disc underneath the art) font. please respond asap.
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Old 04-03-2010, 05:10 AM   #2
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So, you all ready own Iron Man on Blu-ray, but you decided to rent it from Netflix?
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Old 04-03-2010, 05:24 AM   #3
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So, you all ready own Iron Man on Blu-ray, but you decided to rent it from Netflix?
yes. i heard there was a defect with the first copies of iron man sent, so i rented it on netflix to see if maybe there was a difference between the discs. they look different and the scene selection is a different layout. the blu-ray reviewer on here gave the sound 5/5.....why does it sound like 2/5? the bass is decent, but the effects are very soft. what's wrong here?? when iron man was being tested at best buy it was LOUD! why isn't it like that at all at my home? it's with the same receiver and speakers used in the store and mine sounds like crap. everything is softened while every other movie i put in is loud.
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Old 04-03-2010, 05:36 AM   #4
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The disc that had problems where grey in color. I believe very few of those got out so you should be fine with the disc you have since it's blue.

The only thing I can think of that might be giving you problems is that since Iron Man has a Dolby TrueHD encode that your new receiver may be affecting the sound if DRC is enabled.

DRC only affects Dolby Digital audio as far as I know. It limits the range of sound and could be your problem. Look at your receivers manual and make sure it's set to OFF. Other than that I wouldn't have any ideas.

Good Luck.
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Old 04-03-2010, 05:43 AM   #5
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The disc that had problems where grey in color. I believe very few of those got out so you should be fine with the disc you have since it's blue.

The only thing I can think of that might be giving you problems is that since Iron Man has a Dolby TrueHD encode that your new receiver may be affecting the sound if DRC is enabled.

DRC only affects Dolby Digital audio as far as I know. It limits the range of sound and could be your problem. Look at your receivers manual and make sure it's set to OFF. Other than that I wouldn't have any ideas.

Good Luck.
thanks for the advice. i'll get back to you guys if this works or not tomorrow. i want to enjoy this damn movie already with the full, loud theatrical surround sound. it's the reason i bought the system hehe
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Old 04-03-2010, 05:44 AM   #6
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....turn it up?
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Old 04-03-2010, 05:45 AM   #7
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just out of curiosity though, what's the difference between these two discs? the netflix one and the one i already have, other than the cover art on the discs..
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Old 04-03-2010, 06:10 AM   #8
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....turn it up?
my normal listening level is usually anywhere from -22.0 to -15.0, depending on the movie. i had this turned to -10.0 and it wasn't making any difference. effects, such as explosions, gunfire, etc, were all very weak...
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Old 04-03-2010, 06:17 AM   #9
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Could you receiver be on night time mode (midnight mode)?
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Old 04-03-2010, 06:18 AM   #10
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My copy is from day 1 and i have had 0 problems with mine PQ or AQ, i don't have a surround sound system or anything like that but it sounds loud and clear on my crappy tv speakers and sounds amazing in my tritton 720 headphones
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Old 04-03-2010, 10:14 AM   #11
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The disc that had problems where grey in color. I believe very few of those got out so you should be fine with the disc you have since it's blue.
just curious, what were the defects of the grey discs?
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Old 04-03-2010, 02:36 PM   #12
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i bought it the day it came out and just upgraded my sound system. it sounds crappy, quite frankly. very soft, explosions are tame, etc. even my Sorority Row track is louder than this...
Iron Man has DRC and Dialnorm automatically enabled. You have to go to your player, or your receiver, and disable DRC and Dialnorm, if possible.

Even without it, it's not the best audio track I've ever heard, but when I first watched it (not knowing about this) I freaked out - I thought something was wrong with my equipment.

Disable DRC right away, it's much better.
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Old 04-03-2010, 02:37 PM   #13
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Could you receiver be on night time mode (midnight mode)?
its not in night mode.
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Old 04-03-2010, 03:09 PM   #14
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i'm trying to do it now, but does this mean I have to disable it everytime i watch iron man?
right now i have these settings:

dynamic volume: off
dynamic EQ: on
multEQ: Audyssey


are these settings good? i can't turn it up to my usual level right now as others will yell at me for it being too loud if it worked haha.

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Old 04-03-2010, 09:48 PM   #15
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You should always have DRC turned off, not just for Iron Man. It hinders any movie with a Dolby Digital audio track. Once you dissable it you should always leave it off. It's not something you want enabled if you wish to hear the best sound possible.

What is your reciever (model and brand)? Check in the manual and see how to turn DRC to off. Usually it's set to Auto by default.
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Old 04-03-2010, 10:51 PM   #16
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You should always have DRC turned off, not just for Iron Man. It hinders any movie with a Dolby Digital audio track. Once you dissable it you should always leave it off. It's not something you want enabled if you wish to hear the best sound possible.

What is your reciever (model and brand)? Check in the manual and see how to turn DRC to off. Usually it's set to Auto by default.
.......there's not setting for DRC, i looked in the manual. and movies such as Cloverfield, 28 Weeks Later, even Knocked Up are very loud, but Iron Man is very soft. dialogue is good, but all effects, gunshots, and explosions aren't. i have no idea where to find DRC in this receiver.

i have 2 BRAND NEW denon 1910 7.1 receivers.

please help. should i get the new version of iron man though or would it be fine to keep the one i have? thanks.
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Old 04-04-2010, 12:22 AM   #17
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.......there's not setting for DRC, i looked in the manual. and movies such as Cloverfield, 28 Weeks Later, even Knocked Up are very loud, but Iron Man is very soft. dialogue is good, but all effects, gunshots, and explosions aren't. i have no idea where to find DRC in this receiver.

i have 2 BRAND NEW denon 1910 7.1 receivers.

please help. should i get the new version of iron man though or would it be fine to keep the one i have? thanks.
i have the 2 disc blu(is there a 1 disc?) and it is underwhelming. kill bill, the hurt locker, lots of other movies beat it. setups in my sig
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Old 04-04-2010, 01:45 AM   #18
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.......there's not setting for DRC, i looked in the manual.
p44 of the 1910 manual. DRC is set to Auto by default. Change it to Off. Iron Man was authored differently than nearly all other discs in this regard. When the processor has DRC set to Auto, Iron Man uses dynamic range compression. No other disc is known to do that, although there are likely a few others floating around.

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should i get the new version of iron man though or would it be fine to keep the one i have? thanks.
No need to swap out discs. Just make the one change on your receiver and you'll be good to go from this point forward.
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BIslander is right...once Iron man is set to play it will turn on DRC mode...u have to manually turn it off again...
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i have the 2 disc blu(is there a 1 disc?) and it is underwhelming. kill bill, the hurt locker, lots of other movies beat it. setups in my sig


One of the absolute BEST AQ blu's I've ever heard. Tremendous range of sound, and thunderous base!

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