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Old 04-13-2007, 03:12 AM   #1
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Because Blu-Ray did not institute all of the proper specs at the onset i.e picture in picture, making some players unable to use all the proposed functions.

While I don't agree with the boycott, Blu-Ray is responsible for the delay of many discs: Matrix, Batman Begins etc.
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Old 04-13-2007, 03:21 AM   #2
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While I'm not an expert on this, Warners knew that Java was the software used for these features, could they not have asked Java to make it any way, so players w/ these features would work? Like I said, I'm not an expert. Also, what's wrong w/ Warners releasing the movies now and the special editions, w/ PiP, later, like they do w/ regular DVDs?

Studios have no problems releasing multiple special editions of one title on DVD, but on the next format, they resist. Why?
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Old 04-13-2007, 03:31 AM   #3
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Here's the link.
http://www.dvdtown.com/news/dontgett...toblu-ray/4407
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Old 04-13-2007, 03:32 AM   #4
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PiP is one feature. I believe Warner knew they could use that excuse from the beginning. Of course, they didn't make an excuse for not providing the other Warner Bros titles that DON'T have PiP to Blu-ray. They should be, at least, releasing those titles at this point. They are showing terrible business practices when it comes to Blu-ray. I definitely can't put that on the BDA!

Yes, I'm a little upset with that situation.
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Old 04-13-2007, 03:34 AM   #5
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Thanks!

Just read the article. I don't have much to say about this article. He has clearly been paid to say what he said. Who in their right mind would say HD DVD is the safe HD choice? And, we all know that all Blu-ray players play all BDs, so what else is there to say about this?

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Old 04-13-2007, 03:35 AM   #6
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No problem. As soon as I read it yesterday, I thru the link on my site as well. I knew it would be a conversation piece
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Old 04-13-2007, 03:50 AM   #7
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For now, however, the only safe and sensible HD choice is HD-DVD.
Um... sure.
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Old 04-13-2007, 03:58 AM   #8
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Just to be clear, Henning's editorial was not an endorsement of HD-DVD. It was a criticism of Blu-ray.

DVDTOWN does not take sides. But we do criticize.

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I don't know how you expect HD DVD to lose when their 1080P Hd A20 is selling for $303.48 on amazon.com. Whats the cheapest bluray player like $700 on sale? Lets not forget that the current bluray players dont exactly support interactive features either.

So you have a MUCH better price with HD DVD, interactive features that actually work, continually better reviews in terms of picture and sound, and you think bluray will do better because?? Oh ya the movies are the same price as HD DVD's.

I honestly don't get the logic with bluray. Its obviously the inferior of the two formats, it SHOULD be the cheaper of the two formats.

EDIT: I forgot to add that for $303.48 you still get FIVE FREE HD DVD MOVIES. Thats just nuts.
http://www.dvdtown.com/messageboard/topic/4352/6/0
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Old 04-13-2007, 04:02 AM   #9
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No problem. As soon as I read it yesterday, I thru the link on my site as well. I knew it would be a conversation piece
You through up a link on your site to article that tells people to not buy what you're selling?

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Old 04-13-2007, 04:10 AM   #10
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I see the propaganda war is now in full swing.

Please, someone honestly estimate the chances that PS/3 will not play a feature of a future BD. It's why many of us have PS/3.

And what about TL51?

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Old 04-13-2007, 04:11 AM   #11
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Because Blu-Ray did not institute all of the proper specs at the onset i.e picture in picture, making some players unable to use all the proposed functions.

While I don't agree with the boycott, Blu-Ray is responsible for the delay of many discs: Matrix, Batman Begins etc.

It would have been a nice idea if Blu-Ray had all the specs intact initially, I have to clarify that I do not blame Blu-Ray-In fact I am furious with Warners for there lame P in P excuse for not releasing many of there titles on BLU-RAY. I could give two s___s about picture in picture. I also no longer read anything in DVD TOWN, even there reviews are slanted.
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You through up a link on your site to article that tells people to not buy what you're selling?

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There's 2 formats, and I have to sit on the fence. People want the info. I just put it on my forums, and I don't think it will cause some crash in Blu-ray sales.
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Old 04-13-2007, 04:22 AM   #13
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It would have been a nice idea if Blu-Ray had all the specs intact initially, I have to clarify that I do not blame Blu-Ray-In fact I am furious with Warners for there lame P in P excuse for not releasing many of there titles on BLU-RAY. I could give two s___s about picture in picture. I also no longer read anything in DVD TOWN, even there reviews are slanted.
It always seems they can find someone to drop a BS article.

If they had said "if you want to get Blu-ray, protect yourself by buying a PS/3" the article would have been fine. I actually agree that unless you know the situation and accept it, you shouldn't get a current BD stand-alone.

But, get a PS/3. It's a great player, it does a heck of a lot extra, and it will play whatever they come up with.

As I say, they are talking about adding TL51 to the HD DVD spec. Where are the concerns about that and current HD DVD players?

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Old 04-13-2007, 05:05 AM   #14
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People are always going to find something to diss the other guy in any war. As long as we all know the truth about blu-ray being the best and the sure winner we are goog to go.
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Old 04-13-2007, 05:14 AM   #15
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I pity anyone who invests in hd-dvd. I had an opportunity to get a new in box HD-DVD addon for my 360 for 99, but then realised, what am i going to do with this doorstop? I prompetly declined and went about my business.
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I honestly don't get the logic with bluray. Its obviously the inferior of the two formats
When I'm watching things like Casino Royale X-Men III Open Season or Chicken Little I don't see anything inferior.
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It would have been a nice idea if Blu-Ray had all the specs intact initially, I have to clarify that I do not blame Blu-Ray-In fact I am furious with Warners for there lame P in P excuse for not releasing many of there titles on BLU-RAY. I could give two s___s about picture in picture. I also no longer read anything in DVD TOWN, even there reviews are slanted.

I think of the 18 Warner movies not on Blu-ray there are several that don't have IME, what's their excuse?

Unless they're preparing LPCM or lossless tracks and encodes optimized for BD for those, I see none.
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Old 04-13-2007, 05:58 AM   #18
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You know, this article pisses me off....so much so that I am going to buy 2 or 3 BD's tomorrow "just, to spite them" lol and play it on my outdated players...(see sig)

I mean, how lame...people are used to DVD having some features only viewable on PC's, so really...whats the differance?

Your movie will play, rewind, ffwd and you'll be able to access most things. I really don't see this as big enough an issue for A) me to upgrade a perfectly good player. Or B) most consumers to give a crap about and C) Enough movies carrying the features, or enough of a discs content containing BDJ for it to really matter.

This is just a "SKY IS TEH FALLING" scenario that HDDVD shills live for. If the shoe was on the other foot, HDDVD tools would find a way to put a positive spin on it somehow.

This guys article is misleading and imply's that your player won't work on movies later this year "at-all" which is BS.

Meanwhile...HDDVD is the choice, the choice of a generation of HT enthusiasts who apparently enjoy skipping, freezing,error codes, stuttering, poor audio output, Incompatibility,HDMI/DVI errors, lossy audio tracks, limited studio/CE support etc. etc. etc.

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Old 04-13-2007, 06:09 AM   #19
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The article is pure paid propaganda. It is really unfortunate that he would lead consumers into believing its safer to buy into a format (HD-DVD) with inferior specs, fewer studios, and much lower sales.

The HDDVD FUD machine is swinging into high gear in a last ditch effort to save HD-DVD from irrelevance.


Also, I would mention that we are starting to get some real HD-DVD shills here spreading their lies and FUD.

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Old 04-13-2007, 06:14 AM   #20
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There's 2 formats, and I have to sit on the fence. People want the info. I just put it on my forums, and I don't think it will cause some crash in Blu-ray sales.
Yeah but why choose this article out of all the other stories written about Blu-ray? I have also seen you here posting stuff like "HD-DVD outsells Blu-ray at my store blah, blah, blah..."

Too bad Nielsen Videoscan strongly disagrees with your numbers. And so does Amazon, and DVDempire, and Amazon.uk, and Amazon.de, and Amazon.jp

Why not let your customers know that Home Theater Magazine (a much more reputable source than the article you linked on your website) has just named the PS3 PRODUCT OF THE YEAR. ??

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