Why do they say that LCD is better for gaming?

[Steelmaker]

I've heard this on more than one occasion though I still cannot figure out the reasoning behind it. I'm seriously considering a plasma tv for both movies and games but I keep hearing that LCD is better for gaming. Can someone please explain to me why this seems to be the opinion? Is it strictly because of the risk of burn in on plasma or do some actually think games look/run better on LCD?

[Bizdady]

Burn in issues but pretty much non existent now.

[JamesKurtovich]

Originally Posted by Bizdady

Burn in issues but pretty much non existent now.

Y'know, I felt that way.. but I fell asleep with a show on last weekend and I woke up with the DVD menu playing on repeat (screensaver doesn't kick in because it's like if the DVD were playing). Well, my girlfriend and I were watching Troy last night and what did I see in the blue sky on top of Greece? A 'That 70's Show' logo. Barely noticeable.. now, I've had IR but it disappeared in a matter of minutes. This has been here for a couple days. I love plasma but, man, if it's this easy to get burn-in, I might start having to go with LCD. Can't imagine if I played video games and had static bars all over the screen.

[Bizdady]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

Y'know, I felt that way.. but I fell asleep with a show on last weekend and I woke up with the DVD menu playing on repeat (screensaver doesn't kick in because it's like if the DVD were playing). Well, my girlfriend and I were watching Troy last night and what did I see in the blue sky on top of Greece? A 'That 70's Show' logo. Barely noticeable.. now, I've had IR but it disappeared in a matter of minutes. This has been here for a couple days. I love plasma but, man, if it's this easy to get burn-in, I might start having to go with LCD. Can't imagine if I played video games and had static bars all over the screen.

Your talking IR, that differs from burn in. Burn in is the reason plasmas were always looked down upon for gaming. Even ESPN or Fox Sports Network gives me IR, no big deal for me since its only noticeable if I put on a white image and stare hard enough at the spot I know the logos are at. Your case bout the logo though is weird, try running the anti static image (I dont know how Sammys are but the Panny has a scrolling white bar)

[Santeria]

lol i also want to know the answer to this.

how did this go from gaming to IR?

[Bizdady]

Originally Posted by Furashu

lol i also want to know the answer to this.

how did this go from gaming to IR?

Because games have constant static images (Hubs, life bars, scoreboards)

[DealsR4theDevil]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

Y'know, I felt that way.. but I fell asleep with a show on last weekend and I woke up with the DVD menu playing on repeat (screensaver doesn't kick in because it's like if the DVD were playing). Well, my girlfriend and I were watching Troy last night and what did I see in the blue sky on top of Greece? A 'That 70's Show' logo. Barely noticeable.. now, I've had IR but it disappeared in a matter of minutes. This has been here for a couple days. I love plasma but, man, if it's this easy to get burn-in, I might start having to go with LCD. Can't imagine if I played video games and had static bars all over the screen.

That may very well still be IR. I fell asleep with a DVD menu playing as well. The IR lasted 2 months before it STARTED going away. Now you cant even tell it was there.

[yankees3]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

I've heard this on more than one occasion though I still cannot figure out the reasoning behind it. I'm seriously considering a plasma tv for both movies and games but I keep hearing that LCD is better for gaming. Can someone please explain to me why this seems to be the opinion? Is it strictly because of the risk of burn in on plasma or do some actually think games look/run better on LCD?

there is your answer..if can deal with images stuck on your screen for weeks or months, then go plasma. Only bad thing with LCD is it refresher rate. For about a couple of hundred dollars you can get a 120htz, that will fix the refresher rate problem. I have a 46' sharp aquos without the 120htz & i have no problems with movies or gaming.

[FIDDYPOP]

What is IR? I did not purchase a plasma because I was told by many sales people that LCD is better for gaming.

[SDon1969]

Originally Posted by FIDDYPOP

What is IR?

Image Retention.

[FIDDYPOP]

How long does image retention last? For instance if I am watching football is there a chance the scoreboard will be retained on a plasma screen, and if so for how long? Image retention is not the same as burn in correct? Thanks for the clrification.

[Tempest]

[QUOTE=Burn in issues but pretty much non existent now.[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by DealsR4theDevil

That may very well still be IR. I fell asleep with a DVD menu playing as well. The IR lasted 2 months before it STARTED going away. Now you cant even tell it was there.

Ok so *BURN IN* might be rare but what about IR? I don't know about others but I don't want to have IR either. I don't want to constantly be nervous / worried that whatever I do with my TV may cause it to suck for weeks until some IR goes away or spend hours cleaning my screen with some wipe function....

Plasma's may be better overall for PQ but I don't want the issues that come with it. That is why I bought an LCD.

Hopefully they can fix the issues for good either Plasma or LCD so we can all enjoy the perfect TV without issues.

[Musashi]

Friends were telling me to go LCD as well, but my eyes really like plasma.

One of the moderators gave a stamp of approval to a free break-in DVD for plasma screens. Instructions were to play it several times in the early stages of the TV's life, and that should get it to resist burn-in.

[mike79]

Originally Posted by Musashi

Friends were telling me to go LCD as well, but my eyes really like plasma.

One of the moderators gave a stamp of approval to a free break-in DVD for plasma screens. Instructions were to play it several times in the early stages of the TV's life, and that should get it to resist burn-in.

Could you tell me where to find this break know dvd?

[Skyline]

Originally Posted by FIDDYPOP

How long does image retention last? For instance if I am watching football is there a chance the scoreboard will be retained on a plasma screen, and if so for how long? Image retention is not the same as burn in correct? Thanks for the clrification.

I've never had IR from football games. If you do notice it, then it will be very very brief.

The only IR I experience anymore is black bars from movies, and it only lasts about 1-2 minutes of regular TV viewing before it's completely gone.

Yes, IR and burn-in are different. IR goes away, burn-in is permanent.

[DavePS3]

Some of the manufacturers' customer support lines or tech help may be able to supply a disc if they prefer or produced one.

[Dirk504]

K, this is the deal. I don't get IR from watching TV. I watched both playoff games last Saturday and there was no IR. The commercial breaks offer enough time to eliminate the problem. I play a lot of video games and the only two that do cause IR problems are Madden and NBA 2k9. Those damned scoreboards remain there during the entire game and cause serious IR. Now I have Burn in protection on my TV, so after each game I use it. But playing games like Gears of War, Ninja Gaiden 2, Call of Duty 4 etc have not caused any IR problems.

[My_Two_Cents]

The reason why those who do not understand current FPDs recommend LCD for gaming is based solely on the misguided fear of burn-in, which is virtually nonexistant with today's quality plasmas. You may se a little IR, but it will go away quickly while watching standard moving images (TV, movies, etc.). There are dozens of threads on this topic if you want to learn more.

Between CRT, plasma and LCD, CRT still wins as the "best" for gaming due to it's nearly instantaneous response times (read no lag). Plasma would be next best by a hair as response times are nearly as good as CRT. LCD comes in a distant third due to slow (relatively speaking) response times. 120Hz is the refresh rate of the set, and does not affect response times. Fast gaming action will always look better on a good plasma, with no video lag or blur. I'm not saying LCD is no good for gaming, it's just better on a plasma due to how it works. Now, if you were planning to use your FPD for a computer monitor, I would recommend LCD due to the constant static images that will be displayed.

For the person asking about the plasma break-in DVD, you can order one here (or download the file to burn or download the images which can be played in a loop through an SD card).

http://www.eaprogramming.com/

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by yankees3

Only bad thing with LCD is it refresher rate

...and motion resolution and response time.

[SDon1969]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

...and motion resolution and response time.

what about black levels, aren't people always dissing the LCDs for black crush? I have a Sammy LCD myself and have heard this a few times (although I have nothing to compare it to).