Forza 2

[HDAddicts]

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[nhaase]

I played the first, but it pales in comparison to Gran Turismo.

[HDAddicts]

Originally Posted by nhaase

I played the first, but it pales in comparison to Gran Turismo.

I think you'll be more impressed with the 2nd

[Shin-Ra]

Is it me or do actual playing-the-game in-race shots of this look pretty bad? Back when Microsoft announced the game they promised 60fps, 4x AA, fullscreen motion blur, HDR lighting, self shadowing cars, 3D grass and probably some other lovely things like full-framerate environment mapping on the car bodies.

http://www.enregistrersous.com/image...0430112855.jpg
http://www.enregistrersous.com/image...0430112856.jpg
http://www.enregistrersous.com/image...0430112855.jpg

I see severe aliasing, bland trackside, blurry grass texturing (yes, there's motion blur but you can tell it's blurry underneath that), wobbly-edged car shadows (top pic), 2D looking grass tufts and trees, ugly user interface.. it also has that arcade racer bright look to the track lighting, that's something only Gran Turismo ever seems to nail.

Microsoft seem to be releasing mainly replay shots to the gaming press as they're blurred to buggery, focus on the cars not the track and hide many of the above issues.

[nhaase]

Those pics don't look as good as the GT HD demo I downloaded for the PS3. The one thing they've got to get right on the new GT is the sounds of the car, because in the other games they all sound like crap. A Corvette and a BMW should sound nothing alike.

[Shin-Ra]

True, the tyre screeching very much needs updating too. I wonder if this E3 is too soon to see GT5.

[Monkey]

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

Is it me or do actual playing-the-game in-race shots of this look pretty bad? Back when Microsoft announced the game they promised 60fps, 4x AA, fullscreen motion blur, HDR lighting, self shadowing cars, 3D grass and probably some other lovely things like full-framerate environment mapping on the car bodies.

http://www.enregistrersous.com/image...0430112855.jpg
http://www.enregistrersous.com/image...0430112856.jpg
http://www.enregistrersous.com/image...0430112855.jpg

I see severe aliasing, bland trackside, blurry grass texturing (yes, there's motion blur but you can tell it's blurry underneath that), wobbly-edged car shadows (top pic), 2D looking grass tufts and trees, ugly user interface.. it also has that arcade racer bright look to the track lighting, that's something only Gran Turismo ever seems to nail.

Microsoft seem to be releasing mainly replay shots to the gaming press as they're blurred to buggery, focus on the cars not the track and hide many of the above issues.

It was the same with PGR3.. Sending out tons of replay picks, other pics, etc. to only receive the game and have it looking not even close to being as good as the shots the developer kept pumping out (I own it still)

Funny thing is, it is ok for MS to do this yet Sony gets blasted all the time for things MS does just as often.

[panixatk]

prefer Gran Turismo.

It is a King of racing Simulation.

[Forresttheman]

those screen shots don't look to awful to me. Keep in mind that those are pre-release, and we do not know the full extent of the product or its graphics at the current time. I am not in favor of one or the other.

[stockstar1138]

GT5 FTW! No way Forza 2 is going to be able to take that game down. GTHD already looks better than Forza 2.

[Jaren613]

GT5 4 months ago looks alot better than Forza 2 now IMO. I'm biased though, as GT is one of my favs. But in all non-biased honesty, I don't see what Forza 2 has that GT5 doesn't.

[DV92Camaro]

The game looks awful on those screenshots to be quite honest with you. GT HD does look better. But are these screenshots of Forza 2 the final product. I know for fact Forza 2 will have crash damage. That's the only major difference from Forza 2 and GT HD demo. Forza 2 might have 300+ cars, but expect GT5 to have at least 800+ cars. I won't even doubt it will have 1000 cars.

[stockstar1138]

The demo has to be coming out soon and we will see then. While Forza has damage it has never done a good job of it. Its poorly done. The game is physicsless. And heres the kicker there are only 12 different environments with 60 configurations. That is going to get really boring. Hope they have fun putting Homer Simpson on their cool custom cars cause thats all this game is going to be good for....yeah like thats realistic.

[blitz6speed]

I really didnt enjoy Forza at all, i liked GT4 a lot better, but not by much. I doubt i'll bother getting Forza unless they actually let the Logitech Driving Force Pro work on it, otherwise it is a waste for me.

[nhaase]

Originally Posted by Forresttheman

those screen shots don't look to awful to me. Keep in mind that those are pre-release, and we do not know the full extent of the product or its graphics at the current time. I am not in favor of one or the other.

Keep in mind that GT HD isn't a fully finished product, either.

[HDAddicts]

Originally Posted by nhaase

Keep in mind that GT HD isn't a fully finished product, either.

I think these pics are older as well. Downloading some newer Forza HD videos, they blow these pics out of the water. I agree GT will have a ton of cars, but how many of them are completely useless???

[Blackraven]

I think the biggest debate between Forza 2 and GT 5 would be all about "damage".

This was the reason why people picked Forza 1 over GT 4 (despite the latter having HD mode of 1080i) simply because of it.

I'm hoping that this time around, Polyphony Digital would have thought about the implementation of the "damage" feature so they can please the majority of racing game fans/players.

Do that and GT 5 will reign supreme over Forza 2.

P.S.
Although I personally would turn the damage feature "OFF"

[Shin-Ra]

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

Is it me or do actual playing-the-game in-race shots of this look pretty bad? Back when Microsoft announced the game they promised 60fps, 4x AA, fullscreen motion blur, HDR lighting, self shadowing cars, 3D grass and probably some other lovely things like full-framerate environment mapping on the car bodies.

http://www.enregistrersous.com/image...0430112855.jpg
http://www.enregistrersous.com/image...0430112856.jpg
http://www.enregistrersous.com/image...0430112855.jpg

I see severe aliasing, bland trackside, blurry grass texturing (yes, there's motion blur but you can tell it's blurry underneath that), wobbly-edged car shadows (top pic), 2D looking grass tufts and trees, ugly user interface.. it also has that arcade racer bright look to the track lighting, that's something only Gran Turismo ever seems to nail.

Microsoft seem to be releasing mainly replay shots to the gaming press as they're blurred to buggery, focus on the cars not the track and hide many of the above issues.

Had a bash at the demo and the screenshots are representative of the gameplay visuals apart from the motion blur obviously working better.. in motion.

The cars look like empty shells compared to GT HD's, lots of smaller things like the lights (glass coverings) not looking as detailed but the thing that stands out most is the shine finish looks more plastic than polished metal.

The general apperance of the track is sortof 'gamey' bright yet flatly lit beyond the track surface and angular. Whack on GT HD straight afterwards and you'll be blown away by how much richer and actually more realistic it looks.