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Old 04-26-2007, 04:13 AM   #1
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guy's this is too funny...hold on to your hats...

Chinese research and development traverse Blue DVD orders received 10 billion
TVBS_N 更新日期:2007/04/20 13:48記者:陳奇君Update : 2007/04/20 13:48 Reporter : CHEN Qi Jun

台灣又有一項科技產業,為國爭光,最新發明的藍光DVD播放機,高畫質、高容量,傳統機器只能讀取4.7G 光碟,不過藍光DVD可以讀取高達50G以上相當12部電影的光碟,未上市先轟動,甚至接到美國訂單,預估 產值高達101億。Taiwan has a technology industry glory for the country, the latest invention of the blue DVD players, high-quality images, high-capacity, traditional machines can only read GB discs, But Blue DVD can read quite as much as 50G over 12 movie discs, listed first sensation even received orders from the United States, the estimated value of up to 10.1 billion.

火車開進車站,畫面逼真,好像親臨現場,這台DVD放映機畫質棒,解析度高,容量甚至達到前所未有的新高。 Entered the train station, vivid images, like personally, DVD players of quality rods, high resolution, capacity even reached an unprecedented high. 藍光DVD機芯發明人鄧鴻吉:「藍光是50GB以上,傳統DVD是4.7GB。」Blue DVD-inventor Deng Hongmo Kyrgyzstan : "Blue is molding above, the traditional DVD is 4.7GB. Machine "

藍光DVD最關鍵的機芯由國人發明,不但防刮、防污損,生產成本也低,甚至能和傳統DVD機器相容,還沒上 市,先轟動國際,美國知名廠商一口氣訂了2百萬台,一筆訂單高達101億元,小小一台數位播放機,成為了台 灣揚名國際的利器。Blue DVD traverse the most crucial invention by the Chinese, not only catching, anti-fouling, the cost of production is also low, even the traditional and DVD compatible, even listed first international sensation, the machine the famous American manufacturers ordering of two million units, orders up to 10.1 billion yuan, a small digital players, Taiwan has become a weapon of international fame.

http://google.com/translate?u=http%3...&hl=en&ie=UTF8


crying from HD-DVD zealots ...3..2...1..an cry..
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Old 04-26-2007, 04:54 AM   #2
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I'm not believing anything until a reliable translation is made, but the "50gb" is obvious as to which high-def format is being talked about.
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Old 04-26-2007, 05:16 AM   #3
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Update : 2007/04/20 13:48
Chinese research and development traverse Blue DVD orders received 10 billion
Taiwan has a technology industry glory for the country, the latest invention of the blue DVD players, high-quality images, high-capacity, traditional machines can only read GB discs, But Blue DVD can read quite as much as 50G over 12 movie discs,
listed first sensation even received orders from the United States, the estimated value of up to 10.1 billion.
Entered the train station, vivid images, like personally, DVD players of quality rods, high resolution, capacity even reached an unprecedented high. 藍光DVD機芯發明人鄧鴻吉:「藍光是50GB以上,傳統DVD是4.7GB。」Blue DVD-inventor Deng Hongmo Kyrgyzstan : "Blue is molding above, the traditional DVD is 4.7GB. Machine "

Blue DVD traverse the most crucial invention by the Chinese, not only catching, anti-fouling, the cost of production is also low, even the traditional and DVD compatible, even listed first international sensation, the machine the famous American manufacturers ordering of two million units, orders up to 10.1 billion yuan, a small digital players, Taiwan has become a weapon of international fame.

http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url...20/8/d6ex.html

google translated....just like the HD-DVD zealots DON'T SEE HD-DVD anywhere in this article....

i see your (2) million HD-DVD player's and we raise you (7 more million) BLU-RAY PLAYERS...

at this point its too D@MN FUNNY....
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Old 04-26-2007, 06:06 AM   #4
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This should be spread like a virus - if for no other reason but to annoy the hd-dud fudsters
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:43 AM   #5
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This should be spread like a virus - if for no other reason but to annoy the hd-dud fudsters
Even though tempting, I wouldn't go the same route as those FUDsters and SPINers. Let's just sit back and watch the story unfold
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Old 04-26-2007, 08:08 AM   #6
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All I know is Deng did not invent Blu-ray. Maybe this is another format that's popping up. I doubt it, but it's possible. Who is the "American manufactuer"? RCA? Phillips? There are too many unknowns, but very interesting to think about.
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:44 PM   #7
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this can shed the light..and thus let the price war realy start...TOSHIBA is going to bleed cash...

Blue Laser Costs Coming Down; Could PS3 Price Cut Be Far Behind?

Sony is ramping up blue laser diode capacity for its Blu-ray players much faster than we anticipated, and the costs are coming down. A price drop on the PS3 this year is starting to seem more and more likely. Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter tells GameDaily BIZ that PS3 could cost 100 dollars less by mid-year.

The Blu-ray drive in the PlayStation 3 has been a source of much contention among industry observers. The inclusion of Blu-ray in the PS3 is one of the main reasons the console is being sold for $600. But as with any product, economies of scale should help to eventually bring costs down.

With Blu-ray, however, it could be coming faster than we think. Sony's Sony Shiroishi Semiconductor Inc. subsidiary recently announced that as of April they established an industry-leading monthly production capacity of 1.7 million blue-violet laser diodes. Moreover, Shiroishi "has already made preparations to further reinforce production capacity based on future demand." Sony would probably claim that they're easily winning the next-gen movie format war, with Blu-ray outselling HD DVD more than 2 to 1, and the company believes that demand for Blu-ray will only increase, whether through PS3 adoption or standalone Blu-ray players.

[ "I'd guess that Sony could squeeze a hundred dollars out of [PS3's] cost by mid-year, maybe more." – Michael Pachter ]

Because of this anticipated demand Sony said it already installed front-end wafer process equipment capable of producing 5 million blue-violet laser diodes. This would be for BD playback only, not BD recorders, but that's all that's needed for the PS3. Along with this boost in production, Sony expects that starting this June blue-violet laser diodes will only cost 900 to 1,000 yen (meaning only a bit over $8 per diode). The Blu-ray drive itself was estimated by iSuppli last year to cost Sony around $125 per unit, but as a new component the blue laser diodes likely accounted for a good chunk of the cost (especially during a time when they were in short supply).

Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter is confident that this will lead to a price cut on the expensive PS3. "Yes, it means that Sony is definitely in a position to cut price," he told GameDaily BIZ. "God knows whether they will, but lower costs usually lead to lower prices. The right question to ask is whether the full bill of materials is below $499, allowing them to cut price and still avoid losing money. I'm not competent to answer whether it is, but I am competent to say that when cost is below $499, we should look for a cut to that level.

"The point is that if they're ramping capacity to [5 million diodes], they probably are coming down the cost curve for MPEG chips, dedicated disc drive processors, and every other component. Hard to say for sure, but I'd guess that Sony could squeeze a hundred dollars out of its cost by mid-year, maybe more. The question is whether this gets them to breakeven at $599, or allows them to cut price."

"My guess is that you will see a price cut this year," he continued. "I think that the introduction of the Xbox 360 Elite gives Sony an opportunity to cut price and claim that they offer Blu-ray for only $20 more. Again, God knows if they will do this, but I'd say it's far more likely given the rapid decline in [cost of] Blu-ray laser diodes."

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/fe...00500000000025

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Old 04-26-2007, 01:46 PM   #8
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I just sent the http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url...20/8/d6ex.html link to my gorgeous agent/friend for Singapore Ho May and she tells me she reads it as "I think it's just introducing blu-ray and how it's got a higher capacity than current DVDs"
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I just sent the http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url...20/8/d6ex.html link to my gorgeous agent/friend for Singapore Ho May and she tells me she reads it as "I think it's just introducing blu-ray and how it's got a higher capacity than current DVDs"
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Old 04-26-2007, 02:28 PM   #10
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???????????????????????DVD????????????????????4.7G ???????DVD??????50G????12????????????????????????? ????101??Taiwan has a technology industry glory for the country, the latest invention of the blue DVD players, high-quality images, high-capacity, traditional machines can only read GB discs, But Blue DVD can read quite as much as 50G over 12 movie discs, listed first sensation even received orders from the United States, the estimated value of up to 10.1 billion.

I think that what it says there is something closer to " ..the latest invention of the high-quality images, high-capacity blue DVD players, traditional machines can only read 4.7 GB layer, but Blue DVD can read 50G quite as much as over 12 times "...
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Old 04-26-2007, 02:32 PM   #11
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well it looks like ..NOTICE IT SAYS (2) MILLION ORDERS...HMMM..WHERE HAVE I SEEN THAT BEFORE.... ..Walmart you slydog you..it defently would be funny..i just cannot wait to see how the rest of this year unfolds....
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I can order 1-2 million of something but that sure doesn't guarantee I'm going to SELL anywhere near that amount.

I tell ya: This spin really is getting sloppy and pathetic.
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I can order 1-2 million of something but that sure doesn't guarantee I'm going to SELL anywhere near that amount.

I tell ya: This spin really is getting sloppy and pathetic.
i know what you mean..it is getting pathetic. that is why i am
it just getting pretty funny what the HD-DVD zealots will try ...i just thought it was kind of IRONIC the same week the walmart new's comes out than this...too funny..when will the media just...SHUT UP....
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Old 04-26-2007, 10:23 PM   #14
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One possible positive is HD media formats are gaining product recognition.

This same thing happened with internet IPO's and their predictions of future business. Most were false and went belly-up.
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I just sent the http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url...20/8/d6ex.html link to my gorgeous agent/friend for Singapore Ho May and she tells me she reads it as "I think it's just introducing blu-ray and how it's got a higher capacity than current DVDs"
I asked a friend in Taiwan involved in this business to translate it, and his response was:

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This is also the PR of the Fuhyuan HD-DVD loader, it is same as you saw before but just much shorter, it mentioned the 2M sets order from US but didn't said who is the customer.
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I get annoyed that people talk about all this like its fact...I'll believe it when I see an official release....
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I get annoyed that people talk about all this like its fact...I'll believe it when I see an official release....
that's the point..until we get more solid facts its just a rumor..but the HD-DVD guy's ran with their info saying it was factual info...i was just pointing that out .., that don't run with rumors
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Journalism is dead. Look what you've got here in these stories, first take a random page that pops up, take a rough translation, and without any confirmation, investigation, anything, weave it into a story that Wal-Mart has declared the victor. This story here is about on the same quality as the Wal-mart story.

The worst part is, the early adopters are having a helluva time with certain titles playing in their Toshiba players. If these players actually are coming, what chance does hd-dvd have winning the format war with an untested player built from the ground up with "cheap" being the primary goal? Even though the typical Wal-Mart shopper, that the hd-dvd zealots think are going to win the war for them, are attracted to low prices... they're also the type of people who do not believe Sony is the root of all evil, and will return the equipment for replacement or refund when problems arise. They won't put up with shoddy quality just because "it rivals Sony."

Blu-ray is having problems with some movies not playing in some players, but it's nowhere's near on the scale of the problems reported with hd-dvd. I try to be fair to all sides, but I just don't see the reasoning behind sticking with hd-dvd, and I won't accept "because it's not Sony" as a valid reason.

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that's the point..until we get more solid facts its just a rumor..but the HD-DVD guy's ran with their info saying it was factual info...i was just pointing that out .., that don't run with rumors

Then I like you Let's not stoop to their level...being a new member of the BR family I'm confident BR will win out regardless of press stories. If we could get a $300 player that'd certainly help. Who wants to make one?
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