The Night Manager (Unrated) (Blu-ray/UV) (Pre-order) - Blu-ray Forum

imsounoriginal · 05-26-2016, 03:52 PM

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Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Night-Manager-...i_blu_1&sr=8-5

Release date: August 30

No special features announced; UK release has "Cast and Crew Interviews" but is B-locked.

obriensg1 · 06-16-2016, 04:45 PM

I downloaded the BBC versions. Elizabeth Debicki going skinny dipping was a lot more revealing then I bet they showed on AMC. I think F*ck and Sh*t were said a few times but if so, not often.

imsounoriginal · 06-16-2016, 04:56 PM

Yeah it was kinda obvious at times when AMC trimmed the episodes, but nothing detrimental. A lot of the sex and profanity in these types of things tend to be extraneous anyway.

imsounoriginal · 07-11-2016, 08:32 PM

August 30th release date.

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=19400

nearjm · 07-12-2016, 10:44 AM

Does anyone know if the version of The Night Manager on Vudu and Amazon (and soon to be included in Prime, I gather) is the full BBC version? If I can stream it uncut, then I don't need to pay $45 for the Blu-ray...but if Blu is the only way to see it uncut, I might need to spring for it.

imsounoriginal · 07-12-2016, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nearjm

Does anyone know if the version of The Night Manager on Vudu and Amazon (and soon to be included in Prime, I gather) is the full BBC version? If I can stream it uncut, then I don't need to pay $45 for the Blu-ray...but if Blu is the only way to see it uncut, I might need to spring for it.

No idea, honestly. Is there a way to compare runtimes to find out?

minister_x · 07-14-2016, 05:55 PM

The versions on iTunes are uncut, I believe, so I imagine the same would be true of Vudu and Amazon (since they all have the TV-MA rating)?

One thing I'm intrigued about, and is slightly bugging me, is whether or not this was shot at 25fps or 24fps. The UK blu and UK digital versions run to ~5h44 (the blu is 1080i/50), but the digital releases in the US and Canada run to ~6h. I've compared the first episode from each and there's definitely speedup a la PAL/NTSC. The US version looks sharper, but that could just be the encode. Which is correct? IMDb has let me down by not saying!

imsounoriginal · 07-14-2016, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by minister_x

The versions on iTunes are uncut, I believe, so I imagine the same would be true of Vudu and Amazon (since they all have the TV-MA rating)?

Weren't the censored AMC broadcasts also TV-MA?

James Luckard · 07-14-2016, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by minister_x

The versions on iTunes are uncut, I believe, so I imagine the same would be true of Vudu and Amazon (since they all have the TV-MA rating)?

One thing I'm intrigued about, and is slightly bugging me, is whether or not this was shot at 25fps or 24fps. The UK blu and UK digital versions run to ~5h44 (the blu is 1080i/50), but the digital releases in the US and Canada run to ~6h. I've compared the first episode from each and there's definitely speedup a la PAL/NTSC. The US version looks sharper, but that could just be the encode. Which is correct? IMDb has let me down by not saying!

I was wondering the same thing. I know "Wallander" is shot for PAL and the BDs I get from the UK are 1080i/50 to preserve the PAL signal. I was afraid that would be the case here too, and that it would be slowed down for the American release. Only one Series of "Wallander", S2, has been converted for American BD release, and I've always suspected it was slowed down too, but have never been able to compare it to my UK disc.

critterdvd · 07-14-2016, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Weren't the censored AMC broadcasts also TV-MA?

If memory serves it depended on the episode. I could swear at least one of them was TV-14.

minister_x · 07-14-2016, 08:34 PM

iTunes was definitely advertised as the 'uncensored' versions - I have the first episode on US iTunes and I'm pretty sure it's got the language and nudity uncensored in it. Sony have been pretty good recently at putting up uncensored/TV-MA versions of their TV shows (e.g., Better Call Saul).

I'm not sure if there's anything other than the strong language and nudity that would warrant giving the episodes a TV-MA for over TV-14, so I imagine AMC broadcast it with a TV-14 rating.

minister_x · 07-14-2016, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by James Luckard

I was wondering the same thing. I know "Wallander" is shot for PAL and the BDs I get from the UK are 1080i/50 to preserve the PAL signal. I was afraid that would be the case here too, and that it would be slowed down for the American release. Only one Series of "Wallander", S2, has been converted for American BD release, and I've always suspected it was slowed down too, but have never been able to compare it to my UK disc.

Yes, good point - I'm guessing that one is at 25fps as it was filmed specifically for the BBC. The Night Manager seems to have been a third-party commission, in conjunction with AMC Studios, so I would lean towards 24fps being the correct speed since I would guess it was shot on a higher budget - but nowhere seems to let on the information (at least yet).

Sky_Captain · 07-14-2016, 08:42 PM

The UK release is 25fps and I don't see Sony getting that wrong.

James Luckard · 07-14-2016, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by minister_x

Yes, good point - I'm guessing that one is at 25fps as it was filmed specifically for the BBC. The Night Manager seems to have been a third-party commission, in conjunction with AMC Studios, so I would lean towards 24fps being the correct speed since I would guess it was shot on a higher budget - but nowhere seems to let on the information (at least yet).

Wallander has always been a BBC/PBS co-production, just like The Night Manager was a BBC/AMC co-production. But PBS butchered out roughly 10 mins from each Wallander episode when they aired them, cutting whole subplots, so I have no idea what speed they aired them at.

imsounoriginal · 07-14-2016, 10:33 PM

Nominated for 6 Emmys: Best Limited Series, Directing (Bier), Writing (Farr), Actor (Hiddleston), Supporting Actor (Laurie), and Supporting Actress (Coleman).

Would love to see Laurie and/or Coleman win. Hiddleston was a little too blank, by design of course, but I didn't think he was award-worthy.

megatwins · 07-17-2016, 03:20 AM

Why is the rating listed as TV-14 if this is supposed to be unedited as it was on the BBC? I really, really want to own this show, but I hated how AMC butchered it (I've seen both the BBC and AMC version so I know which one I prefer). Anyway, if anyone could give me any info about why it is being listed as TV-14 but being advertised as unedited please let me know. By the way, this is my first time posting, so I'm sorry if I sound overly formal.

McCrutchy · 07-17-2016, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by megatwins

Why is the rating listed as TV-14 if this is supposed to be unedited as it was on the BBC? I really, really want to own this show, but I hated how AMC butchered it (I've seen both the BBC and AMC version so I know which one I prefer). Anyway, if anyone could give me any info about why it is being listed as TV-14 but being advertised as unedited please let me know. By the way, this is my first time posting, so I'm sorry if I sound overly formal.

It's unedited. I've updated the listing.

Also, here is the back cover:

minister_x · 07-17-2016, 05:13 PM

See, whilst back covers aren't guarantees about things it looks like the run time is longer than the UK release by the same margin as PAL/NTSC time differences. And this release is also coming from Sony. So either they sped the UK blu release up (not sure why they would do this, unless they were lazy and used the same masters for DVD and blu, since the UK DVD - being PAL - would be the shorter of these two versions, identical to UK broadcast) or they have slowed the US release down (not sure why they would do this, unless they wanted the US DVD and blu to match in run time?).

I still suspect that the series was shot at 24fps and Sony have for whatever reason forced the UK blu to match the other UK releases rather than be at the correct speed (and in the process give the UK an inferior 1080i/50 release rather than the 1080p/24 it looks like the US might be getting). Still no idea how to tell which is 'correct' though!

James Luckard · 07-18-2016, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by minister_x

Still no idea how to tell which is 'correct' though!

Easiest way is to do what the producers of the UK Arrow BDs said they did to confirm the correct speeds for the UK Dekalog BD - compare a few scenes with music to those same pieces of music on the soundtrack album. One BD will match and one BD will sound sped up or slowed down.

I will say that I watched the BBC versions and they did not appear to have PAL-speedup, and I'm extremely sensitive to it.

I still suspect this is a similar case to "Wallander," a series shot in HD at 25fps, requiring it to be released at 1080i/50 in the UK to preserve the original speed. But it's always possible I'm wrong.

minister_x · 07-18-2016, 09:48 PM

Thank you so much for putting me out of my misery - it looks like I was entirely wrong and you are right, as the theme music from the soundtrack is perfectly in sync with the UK versions. I guess the episodes must be slowed down for US release since 1080i/50 content is probably never released in North America?

05-26-2016, 03:52 PM	#1
imsounoriginal Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NYC 4K collection:320 Blu-ray collection:946 DVD collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:59	The Night Manager (Unrated) (Blu-ray/UV) (Pre-order) 158066_front.jpg Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Night-Manager-...i_blu_1&sr=8-5 Release date: August 30 No special features announced; UK release has "Cast and Crew Interviews" but is B-locked. Last edited by imsounoriginal; 07-12-2016 at 11:55 AM.

07-12-2016, 10:44 AM	#5
nearjm Member Member since:Jul 2011 Trading Score:2	Censored on Vudu and Amazon? Does anyone know if the version of The Night Manager on Vudu and Amazon (and soon to be included in Prime, I gather) is the full BBC version? If I can stream it uncut, then I don't need to pay $45 for the Blu-ray...but if Blu is the only way to see it uncut, I might need to spring for it.

07-17-2016, 03:20 AM	#16
megatwins Junior Member Member since:Nov 2014 Location:Texas Blu-ray collection:216	Rating Why is the rating listed as TV-14 if this is supposed to be unedited as it was on the BBC? I really, really want to own this show, but I hated how AMC butchered it (I've seen both the BBC and AMC version so I know which one I prefer). Anyway, if anyone could give me any info about why it is being listed as TV-14 but being advertised as unedited please let me know. By the way, this is my first time posting, so I'm sorry if I sound overly formal.

06-16-2016, 04:45 PM	#2
obriensg1 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Minnesota Home Theater Gallery:23 4K collection:246 Blu-ray collection:581 DVD collection:228 Digital collection:317 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:97	I downloaded the BBC versions. Elizabeth Debicki going skinny dipping was a lot more revealing then I bet they showed on AMC. I think Fck and Sht were said a few times but if so, not often.

06-16-2016, 04:56 PM	#3
imsounoriginal Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NYC 4K collection:320 Blu-ray collection:946 DVD collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:59	Yeah it was kinda obvious at times when AMC trimmed the episodes, but nothing detrimental. A lot of the sex and profanity in these types of things tend to be extraneous anyway.

07-11-2016, 08:32 PM	#4
imsounoriginal Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NYC 4K collection:320 Blu-ray collection:946 DVD collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:59	August 30th release date. https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=19400

07-14-2016, 05:55 PM	#7
minister_x Contributor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2013 Location:Dinas Powys, UK 4K collection:177 Blu-ray collection:666 Trading Score:293	The versions on iTunes are uncut, I believe, so I imagine the same would be true of Vudu and Amazon (since they all have the TV-MA rating)? One thing I'm intrigued about, and is slightly bugging me, is whether or not this was shot at 25fps or 24fps. The UK blu and UK digital versions run to ~5h44 (the blu is 1080i/50), but the digital releases in the US and Canada run to ~6h. I've compared the first episode from each and there's definitely speedup a la PAL/NTSC. The US version looks sharper, but that could just be the encode. Which is correct? IMDb has let me down by not saying!

07-14-2016, 08:34 PM	#11
minister_x Contributor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2013 Location:Dinas Powys, UK 4K collection:177 Blu-ray collection:666 Trading Score:293	iTunes was definitely advertised as the 'uncensored' versions - I have the first episode on US iTunes and I'm pretty sure it's got the language and nudity uncensored in it. Sony have been pretty good recently at putting up uncensored/TV-MA versions of their TV shows (e.g., Better Call Saul). I'm not sure if there's anything other than the strong language and nudity that would warrant giving the episodes a TV-MA for over TV-14, so I imagine AMC broadcast it with a TV-14 rating.

07-14-2016, 08:42 PM	#13
Sky_Captain Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:17	The UK release is 25fps and I don't see Sony getting that wrong.

07-14-2016, 10:33 PM	#15
imsounoriginal Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NYC 4K collection:320 Blu-ray collection:946 DVD collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:59	Nominated for 6 Emmys: Best Limited Series, Directing (Bier), Writing (Farr), Actor (Hiddleston), Supporting Actor (Laurie), and Supporting Actress (Coleman). Would love to see Laurie and/or Coleman win. Hiddleston was a little too blank, by design of course, but I didn't think he was award-worthy.

07-17-2016, 05:13 PM	#18
minister_x Contributor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2013 Location:Dinas Powys, UK 4K collection:177 Blu-ray collection:666 Trading Score:293	See, whilst back covers aren't guarantees about things it looks like the run time is longer than the UK release by the same margin as PAL/NTSC time differences. And this release is also coming from Sony. So either they sped the UK blu release up (not sure why they would do this, unless they were lazy and used the same masters for DVD and blu, since the UK DVD - being PAL - would be the shorter of these two versions, identical to UK broadcast) or they have slowed the US release down (not sure why they would do this, unless they wanted the US DVD and blu to match in run time?). I still suspect that the series was shot at 24fps and Sony have for whatever reason forced the UK blu to match the other UK releases rather than be at the correct speed (and in the process give the UK an inferior 1080i/50 release rather than the 1080p/24 it looks like the US might be getting). Still no idea how to tell which is 'correct' though!

07-18-2016, 09:48 PM	#20
minister_x Contributor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2013 Location:Dinas Powys, UK 4K collection:177 Blu-ray collection:666 Trading Score:293	Thank you so much for putting me out of my misery - it looks like I was entirely wrong and you are right, as the theme music from the soundtrack is perfectly in sync with the UK versions. I guess the episodes must be slowed down for US release since 1080i/50 content is probably never released in North America?

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