What a bummer, I love watching her movies and the plot sounded to good with her
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Last week I mentioned how so many films, and not just small independent films being bankrolled by money-laundering pimps (yes, that’s indeed why Tom Sizemore is still getting work), are going under due to the recession. But the recession isn’t always the case of someone shutting down his/her movie – in the case of director/co-writer David O’Russell’s “Nailed”, the recession definitely didn’t help, but the movie was always one step away from going on permanent pause.
The film, which started up late last year, stars Jessica Biel as a small-town waitress who, upon getting a nail in the head, starts to get overtly horny. Jake Gyllenhaal was set to play a young congressman ready-and-willing to take advantage of Ms Biel.
Troubles for the film first started when co-star James Caan walked from the production. The “Las Vegas” star left after a dispute with director O. Russell which centered on a cookie. Russell suggested that they shoot it both ways, but the actor expressed distrust that his version would be considered and left the South Carolina set. James Brolin replaced Caan a couple of days later.
Next, the film was forced to temporarily shut down when someone realized there were insufficient funds on deposit with the guild.
Soon after the finance started to dry up again. And you know who was to blame? David Bergstein's Capitol Films. Seems our friend David hadn’t been paying any of the crew (yes, indeed, ‘what the ****!?’) and was keeping the thing on track about as well as a drunk train driver. Not the first time Bergstein had been in hot water either.
The lovely Jessica Biel (and I mean that, she’s lovely – the girl is more than tits-and-ass, she’s one of the most down-to-earth beauties working in Hollywood today; always enjoy talking to her) told The Orlando Sentinel that doing the film (or part of – a film) was “quite an experience”.
"That was definitely an experience, something I could NOT say no to”, Biel says. "I am a huge David O. Russell fan. It’s just heartbreaking that so many people put so much work into this particular project only to have it sit there, unfinished. But it’s one of those things where we had no idea it would have happened.
"If I’d had an idea that it might happen, would I still have done it? I don’t know. Probably. I had an incredible experience with David and the rest of the cast. It made me a better actor. For all that, I’m devastated that it’s not finished and who knows when it will be and will come out. I still have my fingers crossed that something good will come of it, that it will be finished."
Just goes to show you, even a film starring Jake Gyllenhaal and Jessica Biel isn’t safe from turning into a dead-end.
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The economy is in dire straits right now, and the recession has significantly affected the film industry. I don't know any filmmaker, screenwriter or actor - or for that matter, studio (I just heard Dimension have laid off most of their staff) - that hasn't been hit hard by the global crisis. I can't tell you how many film projects have gone under this year - and they're not all independent movies - but also how many noteworthy actors have been forced to take up SAG ultra-low budget movies just to make ends meet (One of the stars of TVs "Heroes", for instance, is working for a couple-a-hundred bucks a day on a movie at the moment. This time last year, he/she would have sneezed at such an offer). Quite a few large studio films, all cocked and ready to fire, were cancelled only a few weeks shy of their start dates because of the cash situation - not unheard of, but so many of them folding at the same time? Now that's new. All you need to do is go back over the past few months and read about some of the projects that were expected to be filming right now. You'll notice that probably only fifty percent of them actually ended up going before the cameras- the rest fell by the wayside.
Heck, I can attest to it myself - we (when I say we, I refer to my producing partner and I) had a film that was supposed to roll on February 14 (titled "First Howl") that was inopportunely halted at the last minute because of the economic situation.
The company in charge of the pic, and the one that planned to bankroll it, had had such a shocking few months financially (to the point where they've now, reportedly, going into receivership) that it ultimately couldn't follow through on their plans to make it - or the other two or three films they'd planned to shoot this year - so it was put on pause.
Very depressing stuff - especially for those that had already bought their plane ticket, arrange accommodation for the 20-week-shoot and made sure cheesesticks were part of the catering. When you've got creatures being designed, people out scouting locations, and a cast that had cleared their schedules so they can do the film... it ain't a good situation. But I don't blame the executives on the pic, I blame the economy. Nobody saw this crash coming as fast as it did. (You'll be happy to know the film is back on schedule - with an all-new team. I think you're going to love Eric Stoltz in this- he's a mad-man! And C.Thomas Howell's going to win a few more fans, too). As it turned out, it was probably a good thing (for me, anyway), because a week or so later, another feature of ours received financing and we're now fastly approaching its start date.
‘'Like pretty much all fields in the world it's impossible to not feel some kind of pinch from the economic hit'', says director David Flores ("Lake Placid 2"), who says he recently lost a local directing job because production was moved to the more affordable locale of Canada at the last minute.
"It's a mess man", adds Steven Monroe ("Sasquatch Mountain", "Dual", "Complacent"). "If you don't do series, or the big studio films, you are screwed.....everything in between is screwed."
Writer (and actor) Jonathan Schaech has been trying to get a feature film version of Stephen King's classic "From a Buick 8" up for a couple of years now. Despite the fact Tobe Hooper - director of classics like "Texas Chainsaw" and "Poltergeist" - is attached to direct, he's had no luck.
Schaech, who most will remember for his role as the chauvinistic lead singer in Tom Hanks' "That Thing You Do!", tells Bloody Disgusting that King himself loves the script for the film version, but that doesn't help get the movie made.
"It's a shame, man. It would be so much fun to make that movie and everyone will love it, too. Its not an easy time right now to make any kind of film in the business. The economy is piss-poor and film production is down 57 percent. I hope that we can make the movie. We really need this chance. It will get made one day. I'm pretty certain of it."
It's not only independent movies that have been affected - the direct-to-video market has also been hit hard. Films starring the likes of Steven Seagal and Jean Claude Van Damme have taken a big hit this year.
‘'The STV and DVD market definitely went soft'', says Joe Halpin, who works with Seagal. "The budgets dropped significantly when the economy started to slow. That manifested into several financial issues for those of us that package independent films in the 5-15 million dollar range. The Studios and Networks lowered their contributions because of the financial strain they experienced after the economy softened. Also the stars we typically need to attach for financing were no longer commanding sufficient foreign pre-sale numbers. And finally what a lot of us failed to anticipate was the level of consumption the viewer will tolerate. In essence we saturated the market with too much product -- and simply created less of an interest in the releases."
Halpin adds, "To combat that and to stay competitive in the entertainment industry I've changed my business plan slightly. I still package features but now I also develop Reality Shows. These types of formats fill the consumers need for entertainment while allowing us and the networks to produce something on a much tighter budget."
Joel Soisson and I are currently producing a rather biggish movie together. We were chatting about the economic situation today and whilst he believes the studio pictures - the big movies; ours for instance - will be fine, the independent movies have been really hurt.
"The blockbuster movies are making even more money than before", Soisson, who produced "Pulse" and "The Prophecy" said. "The lower budget indies, far less".
As Halpin says above, the B-actors don't mean as much anymore. Soisson agrees with his comments.
"The few big name actors that drive the successful commercial films are getting as much work and money as ever. And nobody else really matters. The B+ names don't even guarantee a decent video release anymore. So of course they'll work for less. Because, at the end of the day, they can't really help you get a theatrical release. Your film simply has to be amazing and called Slumdog Millionaire."
A friend of mine, Andrew Putschoegl, who was the co-editor and producer of "Stephen Tobolowsky's Birthday Party", has a personal story to share about how the economy has stalled his blossoming career.
"I recently signed with a commercial production company", explains Putschoeg. My reel is, I'm told, pretty awesome. I've developed it over the years and have been ready to rock and roll. The problem is that with corporations cutting back on their ad spending, ad agencies are able to get the top guys to do work that would usually be considered "beneath" them -- so it's a domino effect. The mid-level guys then take the low-budget work and those of us who are just breaking in to that side of the biz are left with nothing to even try for.
"The SAG issue was also a problem -- couldn't have come at a worse time. With the studios putting the majority of features on the back burner until the issue is resolved, tens of thousands of jobs that rely on steady film and tv work have been on hold or lost -- some will never return.
"I know that the majority of my friends who work on studio projects have been barely scraping by and eating through their savings rapidly because they don't have work. And the work they do have is pretty crappy -- the day and week rates are offensively low... and by the time you calculate the hours worked, they're barely making minimum wage.
"I know I've taken editing gigs that I would usually turn down. At the same time I - and lots of other people - have used this time to continue developing our own projects. Because people aren't working, friends and colleagues are willing to step up and help for free just so there's something to do -- and if it's working with friends, then it takes the edge off the fact that there's no money. I think you're seeing a number of bigger names doing their own internet projects -- the stuff on funnyordie.com with name celebrities is pretty surprising. Some of it is obviously promotional (Zac Efron's Pool Party -- released just before 17 Again), but plenty of it is not (The Gaythering Storm)."
A friend at Disney says they "won't even hire anyone that's not got a fat CV when it comes to producing or editing - especially not at the moment. I know, it's a bad sad because it's means only the big guys get work, but we're all just trying to stay afloat... and can't take risks at the moment. And you wonder why we're doing so many sequels, remakes and video-game movies at the moment?"
Another friend, filmmaker Derek Milton, who is prepping an astonishingly original horror/western called ‘'Death Keeps Coming'' (starring the likes of Dee Wallace, Ernest Borgnine and Chad Everett), says "Perhaps it's not hurt it as bad as typical generic businesses. But, it has hit us just the same. On one hand, I feel that it hasn't hurt 'the business' because people more than ever, feel the need to go out and take in a film because they feel the need to escape from their current situation. On the other hand, investors are reluctant to release funds to make films for fear of falling flat on their faces because of that very economy. In short, it's a true Catch 22 situation."
The Tarantino-produced western, of which Milton is also the scribe, was, like many independent films, originally set to go before the cameras earlier this year. It's been pushed back a bit - because of "the current economy", says Milton, adding "But, I am a firm believer that things will always turn around and in this case, they need to turn around. People will always need to take in a little entertainment - a big part of the reason I do what I do."
Actor Muse Watson, who in-between stints on high-profile TV series like "Prison Break" and "N.C.I.S" does a fair few independent movies, says "word on the street in Hollywood is that the tight credit market has just about eliminated "foreign" distribution since foreign brokers borrow money to finance exhibition and then re-pay the loan thru revenues. Since they can't borrow the money to buy movie rights, the market has slumped to nothing. This effects indie production a lot"
Independent films some time count on Foreign sales to recoup their investments, leaving domestic as profit.
Watson, who played D.B Cooper on Brett Ratner's "Prison Break" and will reunite with Ratner on the new series "Cop House", says the salaries of many TV stars have also been slashed of late.
"Advertisers have split their expenditures between TV and the internet so ad dollars for TV programs will not support high talent salaries anymore. This means that shows with talent making 100 grand an episode are in danger of being cancelled even though their viewer numbers are good."
This time last year, 85% of the pilots were SAG and 15% were AFTRA, explains Watson.
"This year, because AFTRA rates are lower and current labor negotiations incomplete, 85% of the only 60 pilots for the year are AFTRA. This interprets down to lower pay and negligible residuals per the AFTRA contract."
Next to no independent features - this may even be true for studio films - are being filmed in Los Angeles right now. Quite a few filmmakers have told me that they've lost directing gigs because the producers have, at the 11th hour, decided to shift production elsewhere - usually Canada.
"I don't ever remember that happening", says Watson, who has appeared in such films as "I Know What You Did Last Summer" and "Dead Birds". "Runaway Features are going to Canada and other foreign locations or they are going to states with tax incentives. Louisiana, Missouri, Tennessee....are landing some filming projects, but again, with the tight money market, very few total are being made. It is a time in the industry that makes me glad I am not just starting out. With the new requirements for income on health coverage and the producer's plans to eliminate residuals I don't know how young actors are going to make a living wage. Glad I am close to retirement... also glad I began my new career as a producer".
Another actor, who wishes to remain anonymous but who'd you'd all know from TVs "CSI Miami", tells me that "everybody you've chatted to previously about this is correct - salaries are getting smaller, production is leaving L.A, and independent films are being shut down all over the place. You're actually very lucky you go to film Complacent in Los Angeles - maybe if it were today, that wouldn't be possible. I'm pretty much open to anything at the moment - if the role is OK, I'll take 100 bucks a day. But as for all those films I planned on producing this year? Fuggedaboutit!".
So for all those wondering "when so-and-so is going to happen?" or "whatever happened to x movie?" - there lies your answer. Oh, and no, we're not reading scripts at the moment - you may have heard, there's not a lot of producing capital in the indy filmmaker's pot at the moment.
Yeah, I know the feeling. I was supposed to be shooting two films right now; Damien Frost and it's sequel The 2012 Effect. You know what happened? The local producers in the area jumped ship so they are not getting made anytime soon. So, I am now spending my own cash to finance Maze of Thought.
Yeah, I know the feeling. I was supposed to be shooting two films right now; Damien Frost and it's sequel The 2012 Effect. You know what happened? The local producers in the area jumped ship so they are not getting made anytime soon. So, I am now spending my own cash to finance Maze of Thought.
You're currently working on 3 films? Are these full length or shorts??
I'm 19, pushing 20 here in the next 4 months. I've been taking film classes since my eight grade year in middle school and I've committed myself to it. I decided that it's what I wanted to do at the age of 4.
I'm 19, pushing 20 here in the next 4 months. I've been taking film classes since my eight grade year in middle school and I've committed myself to it. I decided that it's what I wanted to do at the age of 4.
You're 19 and you've already been engaged twice? When I was 19 I was nowhere near mature enough to get engaged. Honestly I'm 26 now and I don't think I'm mature enough to get engaged.
Yeah, I know the feeling. I was supposed to be shooting two films right now; Damien Frost and it's sequel The 2012 Effect. You know what happened? The local producers in the area jumped ship so they are not getting made anytime soon. So, I am now spending my own cash to finance Maze of Thought.
You're having better luck than me. I was well into pre-production on my second feature when an investor backed out due to debt. When he pulled out another investor got nervous and backed out. So now I'm scrambling trying to find other investors but keep bumping into walls because of the economy. No one wants to invest.
And this was the cheapest of three features I have in development, one being an adaptation from a New York Times Bestselling Author. I thought that one would be the easiest to get funded but that proved to be wishful thinking since I've been trying to get that one off the ground for six years. So I'm sitting on three really good scripts and can't do anything with them at the moment.
Anyway, good luck to you with Maze of Thought. I hope it comes to fruition for you.
You're 19 and you've already been engaged twice? When I was 19 I was nowhere near mature enough to get engaged. Honestly I'm 26 now and I don't think I'm mature enough to get engaged.
I get that a lot. I moved to Germany in 2003 and had a nervous breakdown due to the language barrier and I just went nuts and decided to shape myself up with the German language to get around and learning the language and then throwing French on top of that was even more challenging. So, I spent my time just working on my language skills and somehow I just noticed how childish all my peers acted and they were the typical "Dumb American" stereotype who lived in Europe but did not care to learn the language and claim that they are all the best without knowing the proper history and so on. So, I wasn't going to fall in with those groups and then I met fiancee #1 and we were together for two and a half years and we called it off in '06. Long story short; German chicks are a little crazy, at least the ones in the area I was living in.
But my second engagement has been going good since October when I popped the question. What the first engagement was missing was the emotional commitment. It wasn't really there at all and with my fiancee, we both feel it and we both acknowledge how much was love each other and all the other things about love.
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You're having better luck than me. I was well into pre-production on my second feature when an investor backed out due to debt. When he pulled out another investor got nervous and backed out. So now I'm scrambling trying to find other investors but keep bumping into walls because of the economy. No one wants to invest.
And this was the cheapest of three features I have in development, one being an adaptation from a New York Times Bestselling Author. I thought that one would be the easiest to get funded but that proved to be wishful thinking since I've been trying to get that one off the ground for six years. So I'm sitting on three really good scripts and can't do anything with them at the moment.
Anyway, good luck to you with Maze of Thought. I hope it comes to fruition for you.
Thank you for the good luck.
I had my first film pitch when I was 15, back in May 2005. I did a pitch to an indie studio out in Ohio and I pitched a film called Hallelujah. It was a police/detective drama about hunting down a serial killer. When I did the pitch to one of the head guys at the studio, he liked it and gave me the green light to write the script for them and take my time with it since they were all ready busy with their next project. So, about a month and a half later I had a majority of the script written. It probably needed about another 30 pages and it would have been completed and the studio went bankrupt and they closed and that was that. So, in shock and horror, knowing that the script wasn't going anywhere, I have never completed the script for Hallelujah but I have re-visited the pages I've written for inspiration.
I had my second deal last year with Uwe Boll and that was just a can of worms I should have never gotten myself into. That man is the king of arrogance. I was to write the script for Janjaweed which is now retitled Darfur. Pretty much it's a pointless two hour massacre film that takes place in the Sudan. There was no real plot nor character development in the treatment that Uwe Boll wrote. Uwe wrote a seven page treatment that basically described how he wanted poor Sudanese women to get raped and infected with HIV and AIDS; children getting slaughtered; and men getting limbs hacked off by machetes from the rebels aka the Janjaweed. You know who he told me he wanted for the lead in the film? I s*** you not, he wanted George Clooney. He wanted me to write a script that would attract big name actors and I gave that script 150% when I wrote it; just to have it thrashed by a man who did not like that I added all the character development to the story.
Due to creative differences, I left the project and I took my script with me. Since I cannot do anything with that script since it's not based off my work; I am redeveloping it into a real serious dramatic film that is about finding the will to survive in Darfur through the hellish conditions that the Sudanese men, women, and children face.
On Damien Frost and The 2012 Effect; I wrote them back in December and March and planned filming mid-April through mid-May. Yes, two films in one month. I wrote Damien Frost as a Blair Witch/Cloverfield type film where it's all from the point of view from the video camera which was something that I always wanted to try doing. So I figured that something like that can be shot in a good two weeks if it's done properly. I was planning to shoot it second and do The 2012 Effect first. I had about 3 people interested in producing the films and they were all like; "These are going to be great! Let's go out and make it happen!"; etc, etc, etc. They bailed on me when it got down to start casting back in March. So, I was really; and I mean; REALLY pissed off that this had happened.
One was doing work with VH1 for Antonio Saboto Jr's dating show; 'cause a has been actor is all the rage for reality tv. The other left for Europe. And then the third one just never really gave a damn about the projects. I was S.O.L. I am still planning on making those two films but just right now there is no way I can do them on a small couple of thousand dollar budget.
I am moving to Ohio here in the next couple of weeks. I wrapped on the script for Maze of Thought a couple weeks back and I am almost finished on the scripts for The Alpha Experiment and Damien Frost: Affliction. I'm planning on shooting in July and spending a month after filming to do editing and then shooting the next movie and repeating that cycle. I have a lawyer and in our contracts we have it stated that the actors are not really going to get any money until after said film is released and the studio can make money off of it. Casting hasn't started yet on Maze of Thought, but casting is almost finished on The Alpha Experiment.
The stuff I am doing right now is going slow but steady which is the kind of pacing I need for right now so I can get better at doing full length feature films. I even have distribution in line for Maze of Thought; hopefully if all goes well with the studio, we can have my other stuff released by them.
I had my second deal last year with Uwe Boll and that was just a can of worms I should have never gotten myself into. That man is the king of arrogance. I was to write the script for Janjaweed which is now retitled Darfur. Pretty much it's a pointless two hour massacre film that takes place in the Sudan. There was no real plot nor character development in the treatment that Uwe Boll wrote. Uwe wrote a seven page treatment that basically described how he wanted poor Sudanese women to get raped and infected with HIV and AIDS; children getting slaughtered; and men getting limbs hacked off by machetes from the rebels aka the Janjaweed. You know who he told me he wanted for the lead in the film? I s*** you not, he wanted George Clooney. He wanted me to write a script that would attract big name actors and I gave that script 150% when I wrote it; just to have it thrashed by a man who did not like that I added all the character development to the story.
Amazing, by 19 you already understand the business more, and have a much deeper respect for film, than that hack/dickweed Uwe Boll will ever have. That is very very sad, that a douche like him can get work, and after reading your post with all your story ideas you can't get financed. I'm sorry about that man, that really sucks. You could always take the Clerks route, and fund it all on credit cards, and shoot it guerilla style. Hell I think Vin Diesel made 'Strays' for like $11k
Pretty much, I'm using all my advantages at the moment. I have an uncle who is a lawyer so he's helping me with the releases and contracts. My parents own several houses so that helps me with locations for filming. Plus with the actors, it's stating in their contracts, not exactly like it but, an I.O.U. and we are going to pay them after we can make money off of the film. I have distribution in line for Maze of Thought, so all is looking good at the moment.
Pretty much, I'm using all my advantages at the moment. I have an uncle who is a lawyer so he's helping me with the releases and contracts. My parents own several houses so that helps me with locations for filming. Plus with the actors, it's stating in their contracts, not exactly like it but, an I.O.U. and we are going to pay them after we can make money off of the film. I have distribution in line for Maze of Thought, so all is looking good at the moment.
You sure got it much better than I do. I always wanted to make films, but instead right after high school I went straight into the aerospace industry and I've been building planes for the last 6 years. That is not at all as much fun as you'd think. My father has been stuck in it for 25 years, and my grandfather retired from it, several uncles too. It's a family tradition to be unhappy with your job lol. You definitely got many opportunities that others don't, so I hope it works out for ya'.
You sure got it much better than I do. I always wanted to make films, but instead right after high school I went straight into the aerospace industry and I've been building planes for the last 6 years. That is not at all as much fun as you'd think. My father has been stuck in it for 25 years, and my grandfather retired from it, several uncles too. It's a family tradition to be unhappy with your job lol. You definitely got many opportunities that others don't, so I hope it works out for ya'.
I too am in the aerospace industry which I got into when I graduated from college. I actually left the industry after 10 years to do what I really wanted to do for about 7 years. Now I am back. I really enjoy what I did in between, learned a lot but got out when everything got crazy. My second stint in aerospace has been very enjoyeable.
I know the economy is bad right now but my suggestion to you is to go after your dream if it is at all feasible. I see so many who don't do it and continue to talk about being unhappy with what they are doing (I'm not saying this is you). Anyways, it sounds like you are in your 20's but if you are married and have children that could make it a bit more difficult. Anyways, heres hoping you can go after your dream. Cheers!
I too am in the aerospace industry which I got into when I graduated from college. I actually left the industry after 10 years to do what I really wanted to do for about 7 years. Now I am back. I really enjoy what I did in between, learned a lot but got out when everything got crazy. My second stint in aerospace has been very enjoyeable.
I know the economy is bad right now but my suggestion to you is to go after your dream if it is at all feasible. I see so many who don't do it and continue to talk about being unhappy with what they are doing (I'm not saying this is you). Anyways, it sounds like you are in your 20's but if you are married and have children that could make it a bit more difficult. Anyways, heres hoping you can go after your dream. Cheers!
I'm 23 single and have no children, so really I'm just staying there until I get the layoff notice, because they will pay for college for up to 2 years and I would love to try that. Considering where you live, you know all about my line, i'll give you a hint, we call it the DreamEnder.
Hey... all of these filmmakers in here and I'm an actor trying to secure some work that could net me an agent and/or union qualification.
I don't want to force myself on you all, so I'll leave it up to you. If you are interested in adding me to your roster of potentials for future productions, drop me a PM and I can get your hands on my current demo reel.
I should add that I'd be willing to travel and work "abroad" for nothing more than lodging if the role was significant enough.
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Amazing, by 19 you already understand the business more, and have a much deeper respect for film, than that hack/dickweed Uwe Boll will ever have.
Well lets be fair, a retard cross between a pig and donkey (I call it a ponkey), would no doubt have a greater understanding and respect then Uwe Boll will ever have for it.
I'm 23 single and have no children, so really I'm just staying there until I get the layoff notice, because they will pay for college for up to 2 years and I would love to try that. Considering where you live, you know all about my line, i'll give you a hint, we call it the DreamEnder.
So it sounds like we may support the same company. Anyways, if your company pays for education take advantacge of it as soon as possible. Especially since you are young and while you are still single. I hope all works out for you.
So it sounds like we may support the same company. Anyways, if your company pays for education take advantacge of it as soon as possible. Especially since you are young and while you are still single. I hope all works out for you.
I sure hope so, I never thought there would come a day where I'd beg for a layoff notice, lol. That company does strange things to a person.......
You sure got it much better than I do. I always wanted to make films,
What did you have in mind; like writing, directing, or something else?
Ok, back on me talking with Boll. I had asked him how much videogame to film copyrights cost and if he wasn't blowing smoke up my ass then I am going to paraphrase Jaws with an Icanhascheezburger image:
This is what he told me how much:
If this is true; after I have several films made, I am going to go after one of my childhood favorites if someone doesn't all ready have the rights to it:
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