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haiku_aubade · 05-20-2007, 01:37 AM

I'm in the market of getting one of these sets and was wondering if anyone was/is experiencing clouds or flashlighting on their sets

shadowmoon · 05-20-2007, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haiku_aubade

I'm in the market of getting one of these sets and was wondering if anyone was/is experiencing clouds or flashlighting on their sets

I have a 40" xbr3, no issues at all.

mike79 · 05-20-2007, 02:25 AM

I am now on my 3rd, 40 XBR2. Still has the cloudiness issues. I had to fight with Sony to get my 3rd. After a month of fighting, I got my new one and it still had the same problem. Cannot reccommend. It is good when you are not watching in the dark, but who doesn't watch movies in the dark?

mr2bob · 05-20-2007, 02:51 AM

52" XBR3 no problems. What a great set.

Greenmatiz2 · 05-20-2007, 02:57 AM

No longer as much of a fan of LCD sets for any situation where there are letterboxes or watching movies at night. I know different models from different manufacturers can be either fine or not fine.

Here is my thread about my problem with two LG sets, complete with photos. It is important to note that LG did take care of me by replacing my set twice -- once with another LCD (seen in photo below) and now with a PDP, which is coming on Monday. I just can't deal with the uneven image/clouding in the corners, even though the LG tech guy stated, "This is normal for an LCD Panel TV."

I posted this over on AVS, and mentioned that the problem didn't appear until after an hour of warming up. A TV technician over there stated that the issue is a manufacturing problem. He basically said that the LCD panel is fine, but it was somehow screwed together too tightly. When heat builds, parts expand, and put pressure on the panel, creating the clouds. It made sense to me.

LG has since ended manufacturing this model, although it is still for sale until inventory goes away. My set model number is 42LB2DRA. I'm so sad about the clouding problems, because the picture on this Full HD TV is gorgeous in High Def. At the time I bought it, nothing else came close. Since then, other models have come out from other companies that are even better. Really a shame -- I loved almost everything else about this LG Xcanvas, and the sound (including 5 channels with sub) was awesome. My new PDP won't have that good of sound.

Photo taken during credits of "The Matrix."

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=8702

LG has since come out with all-new models of LCDs, which are just now rolling into stores here. They have a red base that is round, like a ring on its side. The picture on them is incredible (although the Samsungs look as good or better).

sakbarzad · 05-20-2007, 03:09 AM

46xbr3 no probs at all

rucumn · 05-20-2007, 03:29 AM

Great set if you care about how th set looks when off. If you want pure blacks and no clouds go with the Sharp. I do have cloud issues, but only when there isn't a dvd, or some type of picture. When it's just the backlight and no source playing.

snktal · 05-20-2007, 03:32 AM

Own a 60" XBR1 and 42" XBR2 and they are both great

Ascended_Saiyan · 05-20-2007, 08:52 AM

All's well here too

Blackraven · 05-20-2007, 10:16 AM

If the clouding issues continue, then it's best to get a Samsung 1080p TV instead.

Or wait for Sony to release newer models instead that have Trumotion and xv Color (xvYCC color space) because the current Sony crop are outdated.

chrisshea · 05-20-2007, 10:31 AM

i got 52" xbr2 bravia lcd just love that tv
not the cheapest tv around lol

haiku_aubade · 05-20-2007, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackraven

If the clouding issues continue, then it's best to get a Samsung 1080p TV instead.

Or wait for Sony to release newer models instead that have Trumotion and xv Color (xvYCC color space) because the current Sony crop are outdated.

I was looking at the 2007 Samsungs but there seems to be a serious HDMI handshake issue with those sets and I will be using a lot of HDMI components. Until they are fixed or unless Sony releases the XBR4's with the clouding fixed, I will continue to research on those two sets before pulling the trigger. I just wanted to know how widespread the clouding issue was on the current XBR3's and XBR2's.

I'll be staying tuned on AVSForums i guess for the time being

meyerste · 05-20-2007, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haiku_aubade

I'm in the market of getting one of these sets and was wondering if anyone was/is experiencing clouds or flashlighting on their sets

Full HD 1080p with NO Problems whatsoever! Incredible Picture / Set.

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Sony-KDS-R60XBR2- 60" Full HD 1080p
Sony-BDP-S1
Blu-ray Collection-152
Pioneer-VSX-516-K - A/V Receiver
HDMI HD Digital Cable TV DVR @1080i Output
HDMI HD Dish Network DVR @1080i Output
Yamaha - Speakers
Acoustic Research 6' HDMI Digital A/V Cable

haiku_aubade · 05-20-2007, 08:44 PM

i'm still shopping around... who knows, by the time i pull the trigger the XBR4's will be out

(here's hoping)

oh, btw, i'm going for the 40" and i've heard that they have less cases of clouding as opposed to the 46" and up.

TuneMan1980 · 05-20-2007, 10:24 PM

Yeah I have a 40" XBR3 and love it. So it might be the size issue. I was also very impressed with the Samsung LCD though.

BLURAYSONYES · 05-21-2007, 01:33 AM

It is not always the TV problem if you can get that in your skull. It could be something that could cause the problem. Sony wouldnt keep making these tv with the same problem to the same picky customer like yourself to have this problem. Check your cables, power surge, or components. They may be the whats causing the cloudiness problem.

Blackraven · 05-21-2007, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLURAYSONYES

They may be the whats causing the cloudiness problem.

Unfortunately, the defect appears in a majority of sets.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=748779

Even Australia-market sets (X200A units) are affected as well. So my suggestion would be that you really have to test the units because Sony produced a lot of defective units for this line of LCD TVs (X series/XBR 2-3).

Suggestion: Skip this TV and wait for newer Sony 1080p TVs to come out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by haiku_aubade

I was looking at the 2007 Samsungs but there seems to be a serious HDMI handshake issue with those sets and I will be using a lot of HDMI components. Until they are fixed or unless Sony releases the XBR4's with the clouding fixed, I will continue to research on those two sets before pulling the trigger. I just wanted to know how widespread the clouding issue was on the current XBR3's and XBR2's.

I'll be staying tuned on AVSForums i guess for the time being

If Sony and/or Samsung can't satisfy you atm, then wait for their newer 1080p sets to come out........or......

Wait for Pioneer 8th gen Plasma TV sets to come out.

Blu-Ray Buckeye · 05-21-2007, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haiku_aubade

i'm still shopping around... who knows, by the time i pull the trigger the XBR4's will be out

(here's hoping)

oh, btw, i'm going for the 40" and i've heard that they have less cases of clouding as opposed to the 46" and up.

I have a 40" in the bedroom and have never seen such issues... no issues at all actually. I also have a 50" Samsung DLP and it's a piece of junk by comparison. No brainer IMO.

Count Zero · 05-21-2007, 03:28 PM

I have a 40" XBR2, and I've never noticed a cloudiness problem. The picture is fantastic!

cawgijoe · 05-21-2007, 03:35 PM

I've drooled over them in the stores and have never seen any issues.

05-20-2007, 01:37 AM	#1
haiku_aubade Active Member Member since:May 2007 Location:alpha centauri	Sony XBR2/XBR3 I'm in the market of getting one of these sets and was wondering if anyone was/is experiencing clouds or flashlighting on their sets

05-20-2007, 02:57 AM	#5
Greenmatiz2 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	No longer as much of a fan of LCD sets for any situation where there are letterboxes or watching movies at night. I know different models from different manufacturers can be either fine or not fine. Here is my thread about my problem with two LG sets, complete with photos. It is important to note that LG did take care of me by replacing my set twice -- once with another LCD (seen in photo below) and now with a PDP, which is coming on Monday. I just can't deal with the uneven image/clouding in the corners, even though the LG tech guy stated, "This is normal for an LCD Panel TV." I posted this over on AVS, and mentioned that the problem didn't appear until after an hour of warming up. A TV technician over there stated that the issue is a manufacturing problem. He basically said that the LCD panel is fine, but it was somehow screwed together too tightly. When heat builds, parts expand, and put pressure on the panel, creating the clouds. It made sense to me. LG has since ended manufacturing this model, although it is still for sale until inventory goes away. My set model number is 42LB2DRA. I'm so sad about the clouding problems, because the picture on this Full HD TV is gorgeous in High Def. At the time I bought it, nothing else came close. Since then, other models have come out from other companies that are even better. Really a shame -- I loved almost everything else about this LG Xcanvas, and the sound (including 5 channels with sub) was awesome. My new PDP won't have that good of sound. Photo taken during credits of "The Matrix." https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=8702 LG has since come out with all-new models of LCDs, which are just now rolling into stores here. They have a red base that is round, like a ring on its side. The picture on them is incredible (although the Samsungs look as good or better). Last edited by Greenmatiz2; 05-20-2007 at 03:11 AM.

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05-20-2007, 02:25 AM	#3
mike79 Power Member Member since:May 2007 Location:NYC Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	I am now on my 3rd, 40 XBR2. Still has the cloudiness issues. I had to fight with Sony to get my 3rd. After a month of fighting, I got my new one and it still had the same problem. Cannot reccommend. It is good when you are not watching in the dark, but who doesn't watch movies in the dark?

05-20-2007, 02:51 AM	#4
mr2bob Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Central California	52" XBR3 no problems. What a great set.

05-20-2007, 03:09 AM	#6
sakbarzad Active Member Member since:Jan 2007 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:4	46xbr3 no probs at all

05-20-2007, 03:29 AM	#7
rucumn Member Member since:Mar 2007	Great set if you care about how th set looks when off. If you want pure blacks and no clouds go with the Sharp. I do have cloud issues, but only when there isn't a dvd, or some type of picture. When it's just the backlight and no source playing.

05-20-2007, 03:32 AM	#8
snktal Member Member since:May 2007	Own a 60" XBR1 and 42" XBR2 and they are both great

05-20-2007, 08:52 AM	#9
Ascended_Saiyan Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Atlanta, Georgia Blu-ray collection:608 Trading Score:1	All's well here too

05-20-2007, 10:16 AM	#10
Blackraven Expert Member Member since:Jan 2005 Location:Makati, Philippines	If the clouding issues continue, then it's best to get a Samsung 1080p TV instead. Or wait for Sony to release newer models instead that have Trumotion and xv Color (xvYCC color space) because the current Sony crop are outdated.

05-20-2007, 10:31 AM	#11
chrisshea Active Member Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray reviews:3	i got 52" xbr2 bravia lcd just love that tv not the cheapest tv around lol

05-20-2007, 08:44 PM	#14
haiku_aubade Active Member Member since:May 2007 Location:alpha centauri	i'm still shopping around... who knows, by the time i pull the trigger the XBR4's will be out (here's hoping) oh, btw, i'm going for the 40" and i've heard that they have less cases of clouding as opposed to the 46" and up.

05-20-2007, 10:24 PM	#15
TuneMan1980 Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Elkridge, MD	Yeah I have a 40" XBR3 and love it. So it might be the size issue. I was also very impressed with the Samsung LCD though.

05-21-2007, 01:33 AM	#16
BLURAYSONYES Banned Member since:May 2007 Location:Irvine, CA Blu-ray collection:157	It is not always the TV problem if you can get that in your skull. It could be something that could cause the problem. Sony wouldnt keep making these tv with the same problem to the same picky customer like yourself to have this problem. Check your cables, power surge, or components. They may be the whats causing the cloudiness problem.

05-21-2007, 03:28 PM	#19
Count Zero Active Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Boston, MA Blu-ray collection:30	I have a 40" XBR2, and I've never noticed a cloudiness problem. The picture is fantastic!

05-21-2007, 03:35 PM	#20
cawgijoe Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Trading Score:1	I've drooled over them in the stores and have never seen any issues.

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