Prince Caspian Audio Problem - Blu-ray Forum

lrankine · 12-08-2008, 02:16 AM

Just watched Prince Caspian and experienced some strange audio issues. Most noticible was the dialog volume was extremely low in comparison to the rest of the sound track and I seemed to be getting some clipping going on with the surround. Sounded almost like a skipping record. All the indicators on my receiver appear correctly (7.1 DTS, etc.) but the sound wasn't "right." Haven't experienced this with my other discs. Anyone got any ideas what the problem might be or could it be I've got a defective disc?

ClaytonMG · 12-08-2008, 03:13 AM

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=70524

Is it kind of like that problem? I am not sure about the center channel issue though, are you using an SPL meter and setting the speakers to the proper levels?

lrankine · 12-08-2008, 11:10 AM

Similar issue as the thread you listed. I'm going to try to recalibrate my audio and see what happens.

robertc88 · 12-08-2008, 01:01 PM

Onkyo SR605 and PS3. No issues.

ebarbara69 · 12-08-2008, 01:04 PM

Pioneer Receiver VSX-LX50 and Ps3 no problem either.

odin24 · 12-08-2008, 02:21 PM

PS3 and Sony 820, centre channel was kinda low... it was the first movie I watched with DRC turned off... maybe this has something to do with it

Joe Cain · 12-08-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by odin24

PS3 and Sony 820, centre channel was kinda low... it was the first movie I watched with DRC turned off... maybe this has something to do with it

I don't believe DRC affects DTS titles?

PS3 & Onkyo 605, no playback issues after several viewings.

owa · 12-08-2008, 02:35 PM

Fine here with a PS3 & Onkyo 606.

iGlide · 12-08-2008, 02:50 PM

no issues with denon 989 and panny 50

just thought i would add one for all us other guys that are not using ps3 devices! lol

odin24 · 12-08-2008, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Cain

I don't believe DRC affects DTS titles?

PS3 & Onkyo 605, no playback issues after several viewings.

But when it is sent as LPCM to the receiver (PS3)...?

lrankine · 12-08-2008, 04:06 PM

Well, recalibrating my receiver did absolutely nothing. Tried another 7.1 BD (Forbidden Kingdom) with no troubles at all. I'm thinking it's a bad disc and am going to send it back.

I'll keep my fingers crossed.

robertc88 · 12-08-2008, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lrankine

Well, recalibrating my receiver did absolutely nothing. Tried another 7.1 BD (Forbidden Kingdom) with no troubles at all. I'm thinking it's a bad disc and am going to send it back.

I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Try to rent it locally and see what happens.

blujacket · 12-08-2008, 04:35 PM

Dialog seems low to me.

AlaskaDon · 12-08-2008, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lrankine

Well, recalibrating my receiver did absolutely nothing. Tried another 7.1 BD (Forbidden Kingdom) with no troubles at all. I'm thinking it's a bad disc and am going to send it back.

I'll keep my fingers crossed.

By chance, is your speaker set-up 5.1? I've had a few strange issues with 7.1 discs not playing correctly in my 5.1 set-up. Most of the time the receiver handles this properly, but on the discs that screw it up (The Orphanage is one) I can fix it by manually setting the receiver to 5.1.

Have never had this problem with a Disney BD that I remember though. New Line had a run of them with this problem.

Joe Cain · 12-08-2008, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odin24

But when it is sent as LPCM to the receiver (PS3)...?

From the relevant page in the PS3 online manual:

Quote:

BD / DVD Dynamic Range Control
Enable or disable your PS3™ system's dynamic range control feature when playing a BD or DVD containing audio recorded in Dolby audio (Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby TrueHD). This setting is for use only when Linear PCM audio format is selected as the audio output format.‎

So DRC is Dolby-exclusive, to the best of my understanding, and has no impact on this disc's DTS audio.

Repton · 12-08-2008, 07:53 PM

Pioneer VSX-LX60, Panasonic DMP-BD35 (SD Multi-region), 7.1 surrounds

I've experienced the same audio problems with this movie on 2 BD now!

Psychonaut · 12-08-2008, 08:56 PM

Denon 2803 and Samsung BD-P1200 (yeah, I know I need to upgrade. Tell my wife). No problems.

Repton · 12-08-2008, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psychonaut

Denon 2803 and Samsung BD-P1200 (yeah, I know I need to upgrade. Tell my wife). No problems.

Player or Amp decoding? Problems usually occurs when amp decodes the bitstream.

lrankine · 12-09-2008, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskaDon

By chance, is your speaker set-up 5.1? I've had a few strange issues with 7.1 discs not playing correctly in my 5.1 set-up. Most of the time the receiver handles this properly, but on the discs that screw it up (The Orphanage is one) I can fix it by manually setting the receiver to 5.1.

Have never had this problem with a Disney BD that I remember though. New Line had a run of them with this problem.

No, it's a 7.1 setup. This is the first time I've experienced this issue with a 7.1 DTS master audio soundtrack. Not that I have a bunch of them but I do have several and no troubles with them.

I could handle the "skips" that occur if only the center channel level was good enough to hear the dialog above everything else. If I increase the volume so you can actually hear the dialog it just about blows out the windows of my house.

wildphantom · 12-09-2008, 01:17 PM

I watched it on a PS3 with the 820 last night.
I did note that I had it around the same volume level as when I watched Dark Knight last week and the dialogue did seem a little quieter.

That is unusual with a DTS track, where normally they're played at a lower volume than something in Dolby TrueHD which tends to need a bit of turning up.

I'm not sure about this one. It wasn't so quiet that I couldn't hear the dialogue perfectly fine; but thinking about it - maybe it wasn't as wonderfully clear as it should be for a lossless track.

I agree that if I had turned it up any more then the rest of the track would have sounded too loud.

12-08-2008, 02:16 AM	#1
lrankine Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Asheville, NC Blu-ray reviews:3	Prince Caspian Audio Problem Just watched Prince Caspian and experienced some strange audio issues. Most noticible was the dialog volume was extremely low in comparison to the rest of the sound track and I seemed to be getting some clipping going on with the surround. Sounded almost like a skipping record. All the indicators on my receiver appear correctly (7.1 DTS, etc.) but the sound wasn't "right." Haven't experienced this with my other discs. Anyone got any ideas what the problem might be or could it be I've got a defective disc?

12-08-2008, 01:04 PM	#5
ebarbara69 New Member Member since:Mar 2008	Prince Caspian Audio Problem Pioneer Receiver VSX-LX50 and Ps3 no problem either.

12-09-2008, 01:17 PM	#20
wildphantom Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 4K collection:56 Blu-ray collection:644 DVD collection:3 iTunes collection:991 Trading Score:47	I watched it on a PS3 with the 820 last night. I did note that I had it around the same volume level as when I watched Dark Knight last week and the dialogue did seem a little quieter. That is unusual with a DTS track, where normally they're played at a lower volume than something in Dolby TrueHD which tends to need a bit of turning up. I'm not sure about this one. It wasn't so quiet that I couldn't hear the dialogue perfectly fine; but thinking about it - maybe it wasn't as wonderfully clear as it should be for a lossless track. I agree that if I had turned it up any more then the rest of the track would have sounded too loud. Last edited by wildphantom; 12-09-2008 at 01:23 PM.

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lrankine Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Asheville, NC Blu-ray reviews:3	Similar issue as the thread you listed. I'm going to try to recalibrate my audio and see what happens.

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robertc88 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007	Onkyo SR605 and PS3. No issues.

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odin24 Active Member Member since:May 2008 Location:Windsor, Ontario Blu-ray reviews:1	PS3 and Sony 820, centre channel was kinda low... it was the first movie I watched with DRC turned off... maybe this has something to do with it

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owa Blu-ray Knight Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 96	Fine here with a PS3 & Onkyo 606.

12-08-2008, 02:50 PM	#9
iGlide Active Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Biloxi Ms Home Theater Gallery:10 iTunes collection:406	no issues with denon 989 and panny 50 just thought i would add one for all us other guys that are not using ps3 devices! lol

12-08-2008, 04:06 PM	#11
lrankine Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Asheville, NC Blu-ray reviews:3	Well, recalibrating my receiver did absolutely nothing. Tried another 7.1 BD (Forbidden Kingdom) with no troubles at all. I'm thinking it's a bad disc and am going to send it back. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

12-08-2008, 04:35 PM	#13
blujacket Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Dayton,Ohio 4K collection:70 Blu-ray collection:658	Dialog seems low to me.

12-08-2008, 07:53 PM	#16
Repton Junior Member Member since:Dec 2008	Pioneer VSX-LX60, Panasonic DMP-BD35 (SD Multi-region), 7.1 surrounds I've experienced the same audio problems with this movie on 2 BD now!

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