Terminator 3 Aspect Ratio - Blu-ray Forum

shock_terminal · 03-07-2008, 01:45 PM

Something has been bugging me. I was a Projectionist when T3 came out and I clearly remember it being a Flat (1.85:1) ratio movie. I remember because I thought it was odd. Usually Action films are Scope and comedies ect are flat (there are LOT of exceptions to this rule). But Like I said, I found it unusual that a Terminator film would be released in 1.85:1.

Now the DVD and the BD are listed as 2.39:1 and as it being the "Original Aspect Ratio". What Gives?

My only guess was that in 1.85:1 when the TX first appears and they do the pan up while she was standing you caught a very brief boob shot, but that hardly seems like enough to change the ratio of the whole film.

WickyWoo · 03-07-2008, 02:18 PM

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I found it unusual that a Terminator film would be released in 1.85:1.

First one is 1.85:1

Yes they did eliminate a breast shot in the home video version with a new framing of that shot

IMDB says scope

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181852/technical

richteer · 03-07-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Yes they did eliminate a breast shot in the home video version with a new framing of that shot

Soapbox, a flamboyant impromptu/nonofficial publich speech

OT rant: are we really getting so ashamed of the human body that film makers feel the need to eliminate a breast from a shot out of fear of offending someone (and it would probably only be one person!), despite God knows how many people are killed?!

I sometimes wonder what "society" is coming to. Next there'll be an outrage because some female's nipple (male nipples are apparently OK...) gets briefly during a TV show. Oh, wait...

OK rant over. Back to out regularly scheduled programming. :-)

shock_terminal · 03-07-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

First one is 1.85:1

Yes they did eliminate a breast shot in the home video version with a new framing of that shot

IMDB says scope

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181852/technical

I know it does. But I built and ran it myself, I clearly remember Flat because I thought it was strange.

WickyWoo · 03-07-2008, 03:02 PM

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OT rant: are we really getting so ashamed of the human body that film makers feel the need to eliminate a breast from a shot out of fear of offending someone (and it would probably only be one person!), despite God knows how many people are killed?!

More likely they wanted to avoid a re-rating as R

For more information watch "This Film is Not Yet Rated"

ryoohki · 03-07-2008, 03:02 PM

It was 2.39:1 at my theater.

the Full Screen version (1.33:1) open matte on filmed Sequence, but zoom terribly when CGI is there...

shock_terminal · 03-07-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

More likely they wanted to avoid a re-rating as R

For more information watch "This Film is Not Yet Rated"

Great film.
But it was released theatrically that way.
It would have been rated before then.

shock_terminal · 03-07-2008, 03:22 PM

OK, even IME (Independent Marketing Edge) says it was Scope.
I swear I'm not crazy.
Anyone ells remember this being Flat?

WickyWoo · 03-07-2008, 03:36 PM

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But it was released theatrically that way.
It would have been rated before then.

That depends on whether they noticed the boob in the ratings process, who knows

videonut · 03-08-2008, 09:13 PM

Maybe it was just the print that you got at your theater. Or maybe some theaters got one and some got the other.
I for one remember it being in 2.39:1 when I saw it. I saw it twice once at a Century theater and once at a AMC and both times it was 2.39:1.

I'm not saying it wasn't flat at your theater but I do remember it wasn't both times I saw it... and one the DVD/blu-ray versions.

nhaase · 03-08-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by richteer

OT rant: are we really getting so ashamed of the human body that film makers feel the need to eliminate a breast from a shot out of fear of offending someone (and it would probably only be one person!), despite God knows how many people are killed?!

I sometimes wonder what "society" is coming to. Next there'll be an outrage because some female's nipple (male nipples are apparently OK...) gets briefly during a TV show. Oh, wait...

OK rant over. Back to out regularly scheduled programming. :-)

Maybe it was Kristanna Loken's request.

Also, I have only ever seen this as a scope film.

zooyork_26 · 03-08-2008, 09:43 PM

why would that be her choice ??? you ever seen blood rayne?? shes naked for awhile in that movie

sardaukar1977 · 03-08-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by zooyork_26

why would that be her choice ??? you ever seen blood rayne?? shes naked for awhile in that movie

I'm with you on that, in Blood Rayne it wasn't even brief.

PeterTHX · 03-08-2008, 09:50 PM

It's always been 2.39

I think people imagine seeing the breast shot the same way people remember Laura Dern plucking the leaf in Jurassic Park. With T3 they see it, see another version at home (the internet or full frame version) and then think the shot was cut out. I only remember seeing her booty theatrically, and it's there on the BD version.

Marcusarilius · 03-08-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

First one is 1.85:1

Yes they did eliminate a breast shot in the home video version with a new framing of that shot

IMDB says scope

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181852/technical

I guess we have only one reason now to go back to the theaters. Gotta catch those rare boob shots before home videos productions have them censored out for us five year old adults. Give me a break already!

I beleive in keeping the integrety of every film 100%. Sure, we can get a boob shot anywhere when we want it. That really isn't the point. What else will be cut or is being cut out of films at one's descresion? And just how far will this go? This practice needs to stop.

Marcusarilius · 03-08-2008, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

It's always been 2.39

I think people imagine seeing the breast shot the same way people remember Laura Dern plucking the leaf in Jurassic Park. With T3 they see it, see another version at home (the internet or full frame version) and then think the shot was cut out. I only remember seeing her booty theatrically, and it's there on the BD version.

Dern DID pluck a leaf in Jurrasic Park. Iv'e seen it. It was a deleted scene never incorporated into the film. In the regular cut, she already has the big leaf in her hands all of a sudden.

Deciazulado · 03-09-2008, 06:23 AM

I saw it in La Brea in July 2003: Nudity not seen anymore on scope ratio video versions. I think it was in Scope. Was waching the Terminatrix, not the ratio

PeterTHX · 03-09-2008, 07:32 AM

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Dern DID pluck a leaf in Jurrasic Park. Iv'e seen it. It was a deleted scene never incorporated into the film. In the regular cut, she already has the big leaf in her hands all of a sudden.

It was in the theatrical trailer, that's why a lot of people insisted they saw it.

In any case, T3 was not censored.

Deciazulado · 03-09-2008, 07:42 AM

Well the widescreen DVD opening is not what I saw in La Brea

(never seen the open matte DVD)

ClaytonMG · 03-09-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

It was in the theatrical trailer, that's why a lot of people insisted they saw it.

In any case, T3 was not censored.

That happens a lot. I think recently people were saying scenes were in Superbad that weren't ever in there because they were actually in the trailer. Same with The Simpsons. It's easy to get confused.

But what's the Laura Dern thing? I was only 7 or 8 when the movie came out so I've only seen the home video versions.

03-07-2008, 01:45 PM	#1
shock_terminal Active Member Member since:Dec 2006	Terminator 3 Aspect Ratio Something has been bugging me. I was a Projectionist when T3 came out and I clearly remember it being a Flat (1.85:1) ratio movie. I remember because I thought it was odd. Usually Action films are Scope and comedies ect are flat (there are LOT of exceptions to this rule). But Like I said, I found it unusual that a Terminator film would be released in 1.85:1. Now the DVD and the BD are listed as 2.39:1 and as it being the "Original Aspect Ratio". What Gives? My only guess was that in 1.85:1 when the TX first appears and they do the pan up while she was standing you caught a very brief boob shot, but that hardly seems like enough to change the ratio of the whole film.

03-08-2008, 09:13 PM	#10
videonut Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Orange, CA Blu-ray collection:93 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:31	Maybe it was just the print that you got at your theater. Or maybe some theaters got one and some got the other. I for one remember it being in 2.39:1 when I saw it. I saw it twice once at a Century theater and once at a AMC and both times it was 2.39:1. I'm not saying it wasn't flat at your theater but I do remember it wasn't both times I saw it... and one the DVD/blu-ray versions. Last edited by Deciazulado; 12-05-2009 at 09:46 AM.

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shock_terminal Active Member Member since:Dec 2006	OK, even IME (Independent Marketing Edge) says it was Scope. I swear I'm not crazy. Anyone ells remember this being Flat?

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PeterTHX Banned Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Blu-ray collection:563 Trading Score:14	It's always been 2.39 I think people imagine seeing the breast shot the same way people remember Laura Dern plucking the leaf in Jurassic Park. With T3 they see it, see another version at home (the internet or full frame version) and then think the shot was cut out. I only remember seeing her booty theatrically, and it's there on the BD version.

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