Oblivion 4K UHD (2013) - Page 73 - Blu-ray Forum

eddievanhalen · 01-22-2019, 03:23 AM

I don't think HDR saves this UHD BD, it lacks detail, its looks soft, it's just plain bad.
How or why did Universal made it bad I don't know. I think 2K upscales has the potential to look outstanding and I was expecting Oblivion on UHD BD to be demo material, just like Prometheus, Alien Covenant, Star Trek Into Darkness or Sicario 2 which are all 2K upscales and look outstanding.

StingingVelvet · 01-22-2019, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Vangeli

iTunes 4K is the same filtered look. Dunno about VUDU but I assume it's the same.

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Originally Posted by doom4420

Hmm. I compared screenshots such as in this post. For example near the beginning of the movie when TC is in the bubble craft. On my uhd copy fine details such as the weave in the seatbelt was blurred on the uhd. On the iTunes DV version they were as clear as the blu Ray so I don’t agree. Long shots were very clear as well.

This differing information is like Fox News versus CNN. I think I'll try and compare this a bit before I watch something once I get off the forum. It could be the Vudu stream isn't filtered like the UHD but because of typical streaming filtering and compression it looks like it might as well be? I recently did an experiment with another movie and found the stream much more "blurry" for lack of a better word.

doom4420 · 01-22-2019, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

This differing information is like Fox News versus CNN. I think I'll try and compare this a bit before I watch something once I get off the forum. It could be the Vudu stream isn't filtered like the UHD but because of typical streaming filtering and compression it looks like it might as well be? I recently did an experiment with another movie and found the stream much more "blurry" for lack of a better word.

I have compared many titles on Apple TV vs uhd. It definitely varies by title but most of the time the uhd comes out on top. In my opinion oblivion did not. Check it out if you can and see what you think.

aetherhole · 01-22-2019, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bradnoyes

I can't be bothered with the stream since the audio quality will stink up the joint but I like the look of the UHD. It's not as sharp as the bluray but sharpness isn't everything to me and I think the UHD has a more inviting look than the BD, which is a bit sterile.

I'll agree here. It's disappointing that it's been smoothed compared to the blu-ray, but the HDR makes up in spades for that. Here's just a prime example that the good outweighs the bad.

Audio quality is just a further additional bonus, too.

doom4420 · 01-22-2019, 04:29 PM

Ok. I do stand corrected. The DV version on iTunes has the filtering and smoothed over look as well after more comparisons. I still believe the DV version is better than the uhd version but the blu Ray is much sharper than either of the hdr versions.

gates70 · 01-22-2019, 05:16 PM

My favorite thread is back! UHD FTW!!!

doom4420 · 01-22-2019, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gates70

My favorite thread is back! UHD FTW!!!

Haaaa. I know everyone prioritizes quality differently. To me. BD>DV>UHD

nick4Knight · 01-22-2019, 06:49 PM

I'm not being an apologist like you *could* argue over T2... in saying that I prefer the UHD ten times over. I'm sort of flabbergasted at the claims of this is being "bad". However, I guess for this one, time and improvement on my signal chain could bear out my feelings in line with others.

That's the part that sucks to look forward to, though. As I thoroughly get blown away by current viewings.

evoll · 01-22-2019, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gates70

My favorite thread is back! UHD FTW!!!

Yessss, now i need rocky to come in here and straighten things out lol.

StingingVelvet · 01-22-2019, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nick4Knight

I'm not being an apologist like you *could* argue over T2... in saying that I prefer the UHD ten times over. I'm sort of flabbergasted at the claims of this is being "bad". However, I guess for this one, time and improvement on my signal chain could bear out my feelings in line with others.

I mean it looks great in every way except having less detail than the BD. So it just comes down to whether those benefits outweigh seeing less detail. Depends on the person.

doom4420 · 01-22-2019, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by evoll

Yessss, now i need rocky to come in here and straighten things out lol.

You are welcome!

RockyIII · 01-23-2019, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by doom4420

Yea I probably am. He’s stuck on uhd vs blu ray when I doubt he has even seen the DV version. As far as battle. If he can’t even address the DV version then his whole stance is moot.

DV on VuDu? What's next, movies on Netflix trump blurays?

RockyIII · 01-23-2019, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by doom4420

Hmm. I compared screenshots such as in this post. For example near the beginning of the movie when TC is in the bubble craft. On my uhd copy fine details such as the weave in the seatbelt was blurred on the uhd. On the iTunes DV version they were as clear as the blu Ray so I don’t agree. Long shots were very clear as well.

The weave in the seatbelt are blurred? Are you kidding me?
Things in the real world are blur oftentimes, just look around. Not everything is supposed to be super sharp depending on angle, distance...Hell even depending on the time of the day, location, and cloudiness

RockyIII · 01-23-2019, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bradnoyes

sharpness isn't everything .

exactly, a 'natural' looking image is not supposed not be 100% sharp all the time. I am looking around my office and not everything looks sharp and defined.
The UHD is more accurate and realistic.

Brahmzy · 01-23-2019, 12:47 PM

We’ve been over this. You see blurry everything in real life. Your vision is poor, admittedly.
Ours isn’t. The disc is so blurry compared to the BD, it should’ve been scrapped and redone. Instead, some dumbass actually sent it to the presses.

Sky_Captain · 01-23-2019, 12:55 PM

Here we go again...

RockyIII · 01-23-2019, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Brahmzy

some dumbass actually sent it to the presses.

Someone skilled enough to realize that there is sharp but realistic picture and then there is unrealistic sharp picture just to please AV enthusiasts

levcore · 01-23-2019, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyIII

Someone skilled enough to realize that there is sharp but realistic picture and then there is unrealistic sharp picture just to please AV enthusiasts

a realistic sharp picture and an unrealistic sharp picture?

RockyIII · 01-23-2019, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by levcore

a realistic sharp picture and an unrealistic sharp picture?

Yes, just like there can be a realistic colorful + bright picture and an unrealistic colorful + bright picture

levcore · 01-23-2019, 01:28 PM

So what makes it one and what makes it the other

01-22-2019, 03:23 AM	#1441
eddievanhalen Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:9	I don't think HDR saves this UHD BD, it lacks detail, its looks soft, it's just plain bad. How or why did Universal made it bad I don't know. I think 2K upscales has the potential to look outstanding and I was expecting Oblivion on UHD BD to be demo material, just like Prometheus, Alien Covenant, Star Trek Into Darkness or Sicario 2 which are all 2K upscales and look outstanding.

01-22-2019, 04:29 PM	#1445
doom4420 Member Member since:Jul 2016	Ok. I do stand corrected. The DV version on iTunes has the filtering and smoothed over look as well after more comparisons. I still believe the DV version is better than the uhd version but the blu Ray is much sharper than either of the hdr versions.

01-22-2019, 05:16 PM	#1446
gates70 Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada Home Theater Gallery:289 4K collection:1538 Blu-ray collection:5377 Blu-ray reviews:1	My favorite thread is back! UHD FTW!!!

01-22-2019, 06:49 PM	#1448
nick4Knight Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2013 Location:Perth, Australia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:386 Blu-ray collection:716	I'm not being an apologist like you could argue over T2... in saying that I prefer the UHD ten times over. I'm sort of flabbergasted at the claims of this is being "bad". However, I guess for this one, time and improvement on my signal chain could bear out my feelings in line with others. That's the part that sucks to look forward to, though. As I thoroughly get blown away by current viewings.

01-23-2019, 12:47 PM	#1455
Brahmzy Senior Member Member since:Dec 2014 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- iTunes collection:- Trading Score:28	We’ve been over this. You see blurry everything in real life. Your vision is poor, admittedly. Ours isn’t. The disc is so blurry compared to the BD, it should’ve been scrapped and redone. Instead, some dumbass actually sent it to the presses.

01-23-2019, 12:55 PM	#1456
Sky_Captain Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:17	Here we go again...

01-23-2019, 01:28 PM	#1460
levcore Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Jun 2011 Location:Dryland 4K collection:306 Blu-ray collection:2617 Trading Score:3	So what makes it one and what makes it the other

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