Future of 4K Blu-rays from Disney

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by nugget2016

they can pop out 2 films which will most likely have made $1b, and star wars which will also be a huge seller on the format..

I wouldn't hold my breath for Star Wars. Historically, Lucasfilm doesn't release Star Wars movies onto a new home video format until there's a nice healthy installed-base built up. Give it another three years, maybe.

[Opips3]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I wouldn't hold my breath for Star Wars. Historically, Lucasfilm doesn't release Star Wars movies onto a new home video format until there's a nice healthy installed-base built up. Give it another three years, maybe.

Only fans Star Wars.

Why not Mary Poppins ?

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Opips3

Only fans Star Wars.

Why not Mary Poppins ?

I'm still awaiting the long-promised remaster of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

[Opips3]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I'm still awaiting the long-promised remaster of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

Yep, Disney busy with Star Wars movie obsession.

[azmodeous]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I wouldn't hold my breath for Star Wars. Historically, Lucasfilm doesn't release Star Wars movies onto a new home video format until there's a nice healthy installed-base built up. Give it another three years, maybe.

That was more of a George Lucas thing as he was very trepidatious about releasing on new formats before there was a significant portion of people invested in it. I don't see Disney waiting that long though.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by azmodeous

That was more of a George Lucas thing as he was very trepidatious about releasing on new formats before there was a significant portion of people invested in it. I don't see Disney waiting that long though.

If, by trepidatious, you mean "afraid of not raking in a ton of money"...

[StingingVelvet]

While Force Awakens is definitely exciting to get on UHD, can you imagine the result of an announcement for the original trilogy theatricals restored and on UHD? My god, the earth would shake.

Wonder if they ever even bother with Attack of the Clones, since it was filmed in 2k as far as I know.

[uther]

There already is a thread about dreaming of SW trilogy on UHD BD...

[JoeDeM]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I'm still awaiting the long-promised remaster of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

With our luck it will be a DMC exclusive, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea is one of my most wanted Disney live action films.

[AngelGraves13]

Dolby Vision is very important and makes HDR-10 look like crap.

All the titles coming out now will get remastered sometime in the future in Dolby Vision, as that'll replace HDR-10 completely. It's best to just wait for the quality releases in a few years.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by JoeDeM

With our luck it will be a DMC exclusive, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea is one of my most wanted Disney live action films.

I'll buck the trend and state Disney will mass release this outside of its DMC exclusivety.

Did anyone see this on TMC recently - it looked fantastic!

[Brightstar]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

While Force Awakens is definitely exciting to get on UHD, can you imagine the result of an announcement for the original trilogy theatricals restored and on UHD? My god, the earth would shake.

Wonder if they ever even bother with Attack of the Clones, since it was filmed in 2k as far as I know.

Everyone would love to see the original trilogy theatricals on blu ray and UHD but we can only dream it might never happen.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Force Awakens is definitely exciting to get on UHD

I don't think it could look much better than the BD unless they went back and re-acquired/re-rendered assets at 4K (which, given the budget and popularity involved here, they really should).

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Wonder if they ever even bother with Attack of the Clones, since it was filmed in 2k as far as I know.

Not even 2K; it was shot in 1080p (and less than that in visible resolution, as it's 'Scope ratio).

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I don't think it could look much better than the BD unless they went back and re-acquired/re-rendered assets at 4K (which, given the budget and popularity involved here, they really should).
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Star Wars UHD HDR would destroy the BD. Completely.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by bruceames.

Star Wars UHD HDR would destroy the BD. Completely.

Well, in terms of recreating the HDR version of the movie, it certainly should. Vis-a-vis the conventional theatrical release, though, I doubt it would add much. The standard BD is pretty close to the spatial resolution of the DCP and the compression/encoding is excellent.

[Nightopian]

Have Disney announced any titles being released in 4K yet? If not, I have my doubts about them jumping on board seeing as how they have dropped 3D Blu-ray in the US.

[Stanton]

Originally Posted by AngelGraves13

Dolby Vision is very important and makes HDR-10 look like crap.

All the titles coming out now will get remastered sometime in the future in Dolby Vision, as that'll replace HDR-10 completely. It's best to just wait for the quality releases in a few years.

Is that statement just for shock value?
Would be interested to know your source since there is no (easy) way to compare the two yet (at least for the general public).
Not to mention there's no guarantee ANY title coming out in HDR10 (UHD requirement) will EVER be remastered (unless Dolby pays them to do it).

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Well, in terms of recreating the HDR version of the movie, it certainly should. Vis-a-vis the conventional theatrical release, though, I doubt it would add much. The standard BD is pretty close to the spatial resolution of the DCP and the compression/encoding is excellent.

They are not going to release it on UHD without HDR.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Nightopian

Have Disney announced any titles being released in 4K yet? If not, I have my doubts about them jumping on board seeing as how they have dropped 3D Blu-ray in the US.

The rumor is 4th quarter of this year is a big possibility.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by AngelGraves13

Dolby Vision is very important and makes HDR-10 look like crap.

All the titles coming out now will get remastered sometime in the future in Dolby Vision, as that'll replace HDR-10 completely. It's best to just wait for the quality releases in a few years.

Wrong.

HDR10 is the standard on Blu-ray. It will never be replaced because it is required on every UHD BD that has HDR. Forever (at least until the format is dead )

Dolby Vision is only better than HDR10 when one of two conditions occur:

1) The display capability is less than the mastered content. For example, if a TV has a lower peak brightness, bit depth, color gamut, than the encoded data on the disc, then the dynamic metadata will scale the content down the the level of the display (making it more accurate then HDR10).

2) The Dolby Vision metadata is mastered at a higher level than HDR10 AND you have a display that is capable of handling HDR at a higher level than HDR10. The main difference in capacity between DV and HDR10 is that DV can be mastered at up to 12 bits and HDR10 10 bits. There won't be 12 bit displays for a few years at least.

According to SpectraCal, the closer that the display capability is to the master display, the more HDR10 and Dolby Vision look the same. In other words, you'll see little if any difference on high end displays.

The main difference between DV and HDR10, besides one being static and the other dynamic, is that HDR10 is open source and DV is a closed ecosystem (like Apple for example). Actually HDR10 came from Dolby so they will look alike when the conditions above occur. DV, being a closed system where they have more control over the TV settings, will be better calibrated as well.