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Old 05-15-2017, 10:40 PM   #1801
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From my knowledge, Dolby Vision blu-rays will also have HDR10 as well, so if your TV doesn't support DV, you will just see it in HDR10 instead.
 
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From my knowledge, Dolby Vision blu-rays will also have HDR10 as well, so if your TV doesn't support DV, you will just see it in HDR10 instead.
Well that's good to know. Thanks for the reply
 
Old 05-15-2017, 10:44 PM   #1803
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Yes.
 
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Yes.

Yes.
 
Old 05-16-2017, 12:14 AM   #1805
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And thrice yes!
 
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Old 05-16-2017, 02:22 AM   #1806
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Follow up to the last sentence in this early April’s post…..https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...g#post13461582

Better yet, a festival which is free and open to all. Dan, and/or other readers, if you’re in town during June 8 – June 10, a demo of the HFR hockey footage is now planned for here – http://www.futur-en-seine.paris/ at the Grande Halle de la Villette in Paris.
 
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Old 05-16-2017, 07:26 PM   #1807
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nitere (latin) = to shine

Follow up to the exclusive news posting of May 5 - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...i#post13563059

Samsung is striving to have a commercial installation of this display in place within the next 12 months, give or take (+ or -) a few months.

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Old 05-16-2017, 08:30 PM   #1808
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The comfort zone between the camera lens and the eye of the cameraman, I like that.

Tank u
Keeping in mind, that along with whichever camera(s) the cinematographer chooses, some attention to thee other tools and measurements, e.g.





will help make everyone’s life easier in attaining an excellent outcome….


 
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Reminds me, Samsung will be explaining/promoting HDR10+ and such at a Hollywood event in the next several weeks.
 
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^ Conversely, for those Dolby enthusiasts among you, just last week Dolby was at a summit in HLG territory (the UK) promoting the value of dynamic metadata with a supplemental teaser as to its usefulness also for live content….

 
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Old 05-17-2017, 05:36 AM   #1811
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I'm only here to enjoy the ride, to learn, for the advancement.
A reminder to all….Health comes first…..


http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/ra...a-crash-330893

With that in mind, come September while I’m in town for CEDIA 2017, I’m thinking probably on Friday of CEDIA week, I plan on leading a group of riders (like those industry buddies which I posted a picture of) UP from Pine Valley (east of San Diego) to around Laguna Meadow Road (greater than 5,000 ft. of climbing) then down Noble Canyon trail (google it for an idea as to the challenge) to get back to our vehicles parked at the staging area.

If anyone here is interested, send me a PM.
 
Old 05-17-2017, 02:17 PM   #1812
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Saw that, he's lucky he didn't take out a few other riders when he was stumbling around, and then I thought he was really gonna hurt himself after he remounted!

I did Noble canyon trail 3 years ago when I was visiting a friend in Socal
 
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Reminds me, Samsung will be explaining/promoting HDR10+ and such at a Hollywood event in the next several weeks.
Interesting. What's the event called?

Hopefully they'll be showcasing a demo.
 
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Saw that, he's lucky he didn't take out a few other riders when he was stumbling around, and then I thought he was really gonna hurt himself after he remounted!
Indeed, could easily have ended up worse for him as well as others if you watched the complete coverage. Tomorrow, a couple of the guys in the photo with me are taking a day off from work to cheer the riders on up the climb to Mt. Baldy….http://www.amgentourofcalifornia.com/stage5
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I did Noble canyon trail 3 years ago when I was visiting a friend in Socal
That loop I’ve planned with Noble Canyon trail thrown in is my most favorite in all of SoCal. As for combined scenery /vistas and rock gardens of Noble, it’s the closest thing I think we have around here compared to the cross country trails around Whistler Canada, which I love.
 
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Interesting. What's the event called?....
Can’t say. It hasn’t been announced yet, but thru event education, Samsung with HDR10+ is planning/hoping to bring more awareness to that particular dynamic metadata approach as to the notion of it being an alternative end-to-end solution (ala Dolby Vision) for the production chain in the industry as well as promote adoption of the HDR10+ format by more consumer TV manufacturers other than themselves.
 
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Since I am actively looking for a new grading monitor, let me share some NAB 2017 news:

In November 2016 Panasonic announced that they have created a panel with 1,000,000:1 contrast at a sustained brightness of 1000 nits. The contrast is the same as an OLED panel, but with none of the OLED drawbacks, such as brightness limiting. Until now the best contrast ratio you could get with an LED panel was less than 20,000:1 with most displays at less than 1000:1. This new panel is to be produced in 12, 31, and 55 inch versions.

This week EIZO and FSI announced two color grading monitors using this panel....
Dual modulation LED panel architecture (with its associated smarts) was indeed an attractive thing for display searchers at NAB. While I was browsing the booths with a friend formerly of the IPL in Trieste, he informed me of an old article he was familiar with on some aspects of the subject…..http://www2.units.it/ipl/res_display.htm

The reason I link this article now is that some online ‘experts’ disparage the 4,000 nit Dolby Pulsar as being retina searing or burning when in reality they have little or no experience with its use. Note this line from the article….“A film-based radiographic image, viewed on the light box, can reach a peak luminance of 3000 – 4000 cd/m²…..”

Kind of makes one wonder how for decades, millions of diagnostic radiologists looking at x-rays on a light box for 8 hrs./day (or, I’m told more) didn’t suffer from burned out retinas.

They didn’t….and neither are colorists who are working with the Pulsar day-to-day.
 
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:42 PM   #1817
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Captured on HDR camera?
 
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Indeed, could easily have ended up worse for him as well as others if you watched the complete coverage. Tomorrow, a couple of the guys in the photo with me are taking a day off from work to cheer the riders on up the climb to Mt. Baldy….http://www.amgentourofcalifornia.com/stage5

That loop I’ve planned with Noble Canyon trail thrown in is my most favorite in all of SoCal. As for combined scenery /vistas and rock gardens of Noble, it’s the closest thing I think we have around here compared to the cross country trails around Whistler Canada, which I love.
Cool have fun! excellent trail I agree we were camping up top and rode it down to Pine I think, the little town there. Climbed back up some and did another trail but didn't climb all the way back up hitched a ride
 
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With some of the HDR10 discs being mastered at 4000 nits and reduced to 1000 nits and HDR being rendered in absolute values, would the discs need to be reissued with 4000 nits peak brightness?
 
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With some of the HDR10 discs being mastered at 4000 nits and reduced to 1000 nits and HDR being rendered in absolute values, would the discs need to be reissued with 4000 nits peak brightness?
No set does 4,000 nits anyway. The difference is only between them lowering it in the mastering stage versus your set mapping the higher levels.
 
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