HDMI Cables - Page 29 - Blu-ray Forum

Hedchekr · 12-09-2008, 11:19 PM

Yes i have. They are great. I am not saying that that brand is crappy. Just watch out for low priced cables that may not be built that well. And Monoprice cable and others do fail at greater lengths. I have a Monoprice and a Cables Unlimited UltraFlat HDMI Cable that are great and cheaper than Monster Cables. I have read that you should make sure the cables actually say HDMI on the cable somewhere and perferably stamped in the plastic on the connector. There are companys that make crap HDMI cables The one that came with my Xbox 360 Elite was crap.

ckent22 · 12-09-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PS3+HDDVD OWNER

I have a Monster 1000 series 6ft HDMI cable, top of the line cord that shows no difference in PQ/AQ over my 6ft $3.85 Monoprice cable.

Bottom line, it shouldn't make a noticable difference.

Odd, cause mine do.

ckent22 · 12-09-2008, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by brett_day

there is no noticeable difference i went from using monster to using monoprice, i cannot tell any diff in AQ/PQ, i think anyone that says otherwise is trying to justify their spending $100 on a $3 cable

Well, I can tell a difference.

brett_day · 12-09-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ckent22

Odd, cause mine do.

called a placebo effect! you think you are getting something better, so you think you are seeing something better, if you could run your setup along side the same setup again one with monster one without you would not see a difference! you should seek out the Monster Vs Coat Hanger thread

plowmanjoe · 12-09-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ckent22

Well, I can tell a difference.

i challenge you to a double blind test.

callas01 · 12-09-2008, 11:59 PM

i did my own double blind test in my own home when i just got my new $6 cable from amazon and the $50 Monster ones i bought a long time ago. My wife thought i was stupid for going through this excersize, but I am anal like that i guess.

Result:

NO DIFFERENCE

klester · 12-10-2008, 02:12 PM

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I have a Monster 1000 series 6ft HDMI cable, top of the line cord that shows no difference in PQ/AQ over my 6ft $3.85 Monoprice cable.

I recently did the same exact test. I purchased a Monster 1000 series 6ft HDMI cable when I got my tv so I could start watching HD TV that night. The same night I also purchased a $5 6ft HDMI cable from amazon. When it arrived, I spent a while comparing the two. I looked at still scenes (freeze frame on the Blu-Ray player and switched the cables back and forth), as well as action sequences, and I couldn't tell any difference at all.

I would definitely recommend a more reasonably priced HDMI cable (make sure it is HDMI 1.3 certified).

crackinhedz · 12-10-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hedchekr

There are companys that make crap HDMI cables The one that came with my Xbox 360 Elite was crap.

are you sure it was the cable??

I kid. Sorry, couldn't pass that one up.

hourglass · 12-10-2008, 03:28 PM

Monster Cable:
Operating on the "There's a sucker born every minute" philosophy since 1979.

That said, I'll be the first to agree that a quality cable will outperform an inferior cable. The difference will be in the construction, the shielding, and the quality of the copper. Will you immediately notice a difference? Maybe, maybe not. Depends on a lot of factors. But what you will notice is that after you connect & disconnect the Monster cable a few times, it's going to show just how flimsy it really is.

In my experience (both in audio installation and concert sound), Monster provides a poorly constructed cable for a premium price. Sure, they'll replace it for free when one of the connectors starts shorting because the shield came loose, but it's really a PITA and I'd rather use something better, which can usually be had for less money.

hg

Mr. HiDef · 12-10-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rwojtalewicz

Some have said on this forum digital is digital, digital in, digital out. That's true in theory. You can be sure 1's and 0's going in will be the same 1's and 0's going out if the lengths of HDMI cable are under 4 - 5 meters. A no name generic brand vs cheap Monprice vs mid price Monster vs your overpriced $100 / ft esoteric cable will all perform about the same. This is true especially for the current specs for 1080p signals supported by Blu-ray. However that's not saying that such cable will be future proof. Test's have already shown that 1440p signals or higher resolution will be putting high demands on HDMI cable construction and quality and that's when you might be better off going Monster Cable or some esoteric brand X.

References:

http://www.audioholics.com/education...le-bench-tests

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hdmi-cabl...t-2-268788.php

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hdmi-cabl...iii-282725.php

So according to these articles monoprice hdmi cables are garbage for long range?

kpkelley · 12-10-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hourglass

That said, I'll be the first to agree that a quality cable will outperform an inferior cable.

This isn't true for short runs. There have been numerous tests that have shown conclusively that on runs under 10 feet, all working cables, everybody gets a defective cable now and again, produced identical results.

kpkelley · 12-10-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. HiDef

So according to these articles monoprice hdmi cables are garbage for long range?

No. Monoprice cables have varying levels of construction, you just have to select one of the better constructed models when dealing with a longer run of cable.

This is certainly a well constructed cable.

Aerodude73 · 12-10-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kpkelley

No. Monoprice cables have varying levels of construction, you just have to select one of the better constructed models when dealing with a longer run of cable.

This is certainly a well constructed cable.

lol -- it prob. is a great cable, yes, but it's close to "Monster" land with that price.

mcadvldg · 12-10-2008, 03:56 PM

Get whatever you think is right for you. If you are ready to believe there is no difference then get the monoprice cable. If you are more comfortable with a more expensive cable, get that one. You may or may not see a difference, it may be an actual or percieved differnce. Just try to enjoy whatever you have, but remember there is a level of truth in each side of any arguement.

kpkelley · 12-10-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aerodude73

lol -- it prob. is a great cable, yes, but it's close to "Monster" land with that price.

This is the cheapest of the long run cables at monoprice.com.

Aerodude73 · 12-10-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kpkelley

This is the cheapest of the long run cables at monoprice.com.

not bad, but I would think most don't need 25' for the BLU-RAY/PS3/DVD player to the TV or Receiver. I checked out their site. They have plenty that are under $10 and less than 25', if that helps.

As usual, i'll say it again. - www.blu-ray.com - THIS SITE KICKS A___!

kpkelley · 12-10-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aerodude73

not bad, but I would think most don't need 25' for the BLU-RAY/PS3/DVD player to the TV or Receiver. I checked out their site. They have plenty that are under $10 and less than 25', if that helps.

The member was asking about monoprice and long run cables, so I provided the information. Most runs of this length are for hidden components or projectors, set-ups where the source and the display are long ways apart.

Aerodude73 · 12-10-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kpkelley

The member was asking about monoprice and long run cables, so I provided the information. Most runs of this length are for hidden components or projectors, set-ups where the source and the display are long ways apart.

Oh okay -- my mistake then.

When I get my BD55 (soon I hope!), i'll def. upgrade my HDMI Cables, so this thread is, (as usual!

), helping me greatly in advance.

ckent22 · 12-10-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by brett_day

called a placebo effect! you think you are getting something better, so you think you are seeing something better, if you could run your setup along side the same setup again one with monster one without you would not see a difference! you should seek out the Monster Vs Coat Hanger thread

Not really no. It really depends on how they are made.

ckent22 · 12-10-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by plowmanjoe

i challenge you to a double blind test.

Considering I've tried them now on different tvs and monitors, yeah i think i can tell a difference.

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12-09-2008, 11:19 PM	#561
Hedchekr Special Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Orcutt, Cali Blu-ray collection:120 Trading Score:5	Yes i have. They are great. I am not saying that that brand is crappy. Just watch out for low priced cables that may not be built that well. And Monoprice cable and others do fail at greater lengths. I have a Monoprice and a Cables Unlimited UltraFlat HDMI Cable that are great and cheaper than Monster Cables. I have read that you should make sure the cables actually say HDMI on the cable somewhere and perferably stamped in the plastic on the connector. There are companys that make crap HDMI cables The one that came with my Xbox 360 Elite was crap.

12-09-2008, 11:59 PM	#566
callas01 Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Riverside, CA Home Theater Gallery:42 Blu-ray collection:230 DVD collection:47	i did my own double blind test in my own home when i just got my new $6 cable from amazon and the $50 Monster ones i bought a long time ago. My wife thought i was stupid for going through this excersize, but I am anal like that i guess. Result: NO DIFFERENCE

12-10-2008, 03:28 PM	#569
hourglass Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray collection:26 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:2	Monster Cable: Operating on the "There's a sucker born every minute" philosophy since 1979. That said, I'll be the first to agree that a quality cable will outperform an inferior cable. The difference will be in the construction, the shielding, and the quality of the copper. Will you immediately notice a difference? Maybe, maybe not. Depends on a lot of factors. But what you will notice is that after you connect & disconnect the Monster cable a few times, it's going to show just how flimsy it really is. In my experience (both in audio installation and concert sound), Monster provides a poorly constructed cable for a premium price. Sure, they'll replace it for free when one of the connectors starts shorting because the shield came loose, but it's really a PITA and I'd rather use something better, which can usually be had for less money. hg

12-10-2008, 03:56 PM	#574
mcadvldg Junior Member Member since:Sep 2008 4K collection:81 Blu-ray collection:419 DVD collection:169	Get whatever you think is right for you. If you are ready to believe there is no difference then get the monoprice cable. If you are more comfortable with a more expensive cable, get that one. You may or may not see a difference, it may be an actual or percieved differnce. Just try to enjoy whatever you have, but remember there is a level of truth in each side of any arguement.

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