4K Blu-ray Confirmed, Coming in

[David M]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Since last we talked, I just hope you’ve been working on your pronunciation….http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/temporal

So as to refine your presentations during interviews or at conferences, e.g.….

Dr. Hari Shroff: New Technologies for High Spatial and Temporal Resolution Imaging - YouTube

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Haha. Whatever you say, penton man ;D

[Richard Paul]

Originally Posted by bobbydrugar

That's the kind of thing that makes me nervous about the industry and some of these new technologies. What is the point of an NDA on a feature that is meant to get people interested. Why all the cloak and dagger. What else are they not telling us.

At this point most of the technical aspects of Ultra HD Blu-ray have been revealed so my guess is that they don't want to talk about DRM until the last possible minute.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

At this point most of the technical aspects of Ultra HD Blu-ray have been revealed so my guess is that they don't want to talk about DRM until the last possible minute.

That's what worries me.

[bailey1987]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

At this point most of the technical aspects of Ultra HD Blu-ray have been revealed so my guess is that they don't want to talk about DRM until the last possible minute.

Personally I think it will just be HDCP 2.2 and improved versions of BD Rom Mark and BD +. The big one that caused all the contention AACS I think will see an upgrade but not to the extent that caused many to balk at the mere idea of what AACS 2 could do.

[raygendreau]

The CEA's HDR standard for Displays:

http://www.ce.org/News/News-Releases...-Displays.aspx

"A TV, monitor or projector may be referred to as a HDR Compatible Display if it meets the following minimum attributes:

• Includes at least one interface that supports HDR signaling as defined in CEA-861-F, as extended by CEA-861.3.
• Receives and processes static HDR metadata compliant with CEA-861.3 for uncompressed video.
• Receives and processes HDR10 Media Profile* from IP, HDMI or other video delivery sources. Additionally, other media profiles may be supported.
• Applies an appropriate Electro-Optical Transfer Function (EOTF), before rendering the image.
“CEA’s leading role in defining HDR compatible displays complements the work of other organizations such as the UHD Alliance that are reportedly developing HDR-related performance parameters and guidance for the video content, distribution and hardware ecosystem,” Markwalter explained."

* Note: HDR10 Media Profile is defined as:
• EOTF: SMPTE ST 2084
• Color Sub-sampling: 4:2:0 (for compressed video sources)
• Bit Depth: 10 bit
• Color Primaries: ITU-R BT.2020
• Metadata: SMPTE ST 2086, MaxFALL, MaxCLL

[raygendreau]

Still waiting for the UHD Alliance. Will we have to wait for CES 2016 to hear from them?

http://hdguru.com/cea-defines-an-hdr...ition-for-hdr/

[jono3000]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

Still waiting for the UHD Alliance. Will we have to wait for CES 2016 to hear from them?

http://hdguru.com/cea-defines-an-hdr...ition-for-hdr/

Hopefully at the IFA at the end of the week

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by jono3000

Hopefully at the IFA at the end of the week

You aren't going to see a UHD Alliance logo on any equipment at IFA which is only a week away.

How much of the UHD Alliance work has been completed?

"WORK SCOPE
•Specify requirements for the Premium quality of UHD Content, Distribution,
Devices, and other elements of the ecosystem
•Define criteria that distinguish premium quality ecosystem components while
preserving creative intent
•Provide clear definitions, industry guidelines and best practices on emerging technologies, and collaborate with other standards organizations
•Develop testing methodologies and certification programs based on the UHD Alliance specifications
•Establish UHD Alliance Logo program on certified products •Ensure UHDA‐branded content is guaranteed optimal presentation on UHDA‐branded devices

•Promote UHD Alliance Brand and ecosystem to consumers •Establish consumer facing naming and marketing messaging
•Encourage consumers to choose UHDA‐branded products for a truly next‐generation experience" (UHD Alliance)

[spectre08]

question for you tech-heads. What's a good podcast where people discuss the latest blu-ray and/or film finishing technology?

[raygendreau]

Nothing about UHD BR players in this preview of IFA:

http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/31/92...ear-windows-10

[Geoff D]

I still think we'll be lucky to see a full retail blitz this year, maybe a 'soft' launch with a single slow-assed player and a handful of titles, but there's no way it's coming out in Europe in 2015 in any case. CES will surely be the big launchpad event, especially because the manufacturers will have their 2016 TV line ups to show off in tandem with UHD BD. Maybe spring for the 'hard' launch in the US, summer 2016 for Europe.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by spectre08

question for you tech-heads. What's a good podcast where people discuss the latest blu-ray and/or film finishing technology?

We’re too busy to do any stinkin podcast, what with polishing the camera after having had delivered the balloons….



But your avatar and past comment –

Originally Posted by spectre08

I'll take the word of professionals and camera companies over the word of the company making the film ANY day.

Did remind me of some perspective…http://www.brw.com.au/p/tech-gadgets...FXYwagdCRzszeP

[Falaskan]

So will these play DVDs or not?

[bobbydrugar]

I don't think it is required for them to play DVD's. I think most of them probably will but again I don't think it is required in the spec for a UHD-Blu-ray Player. Best advice I can give you is to pay close attention to the specs as individual players come out.

Nothing like releasing a product with even more confusion to add to Joe public's list of buyer beware.

T

[Falaskan]

I'm definitely all for the best quality but I also want to play some of my DVDs I have a few I know will never be in HD, like most tv shows.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

I'm definitely all for the best quality but I also want to play some of my DVDs I have a few I know will never be in HD, like most tv shows.

On Amazon, the number of DVD releases available for sale are 211,804 and the number of Blu-rays available for sale are 19,892. So, relax, you aren't going to have a problem playing DVDs on the new UHD players.

[bobbydrugar]

Unless you buy the wrong one that cuts corners to undercut price or increase margins by not including the Red Laser for the DVD and CD playback. It is one more thing the consumer has to be aware of when selecting a UHD player as there is no set rule mandating the inclusion of the Red laser.

T

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by bobbydrugar

Unless you buy the wrong one that cuts corners to undercut price or increase margins by not including the Red Laser for the DVD and CD playback. It is one more thing the consumer has to be aware of when selecting a UHD player as there is no set rule mandating the inclusion of the Red laser.

T

Not going to happen. It'll only cost a few dollars more to include, and would be more than offset by all the returns from people expecting DVDs to play (and/or lower sales from making it obvious on the advertising labels that it won't play DVD). It would be like selling an SACD player without CD playback.

[bobbydrugar]

I wouldn't bet on that. have you not seen the threads around here about how DVD makes eyes bleed and kills babies. I have no doubt that some users would actually view a lack of a red laser as a good first step and thank god no more DVD's. The added benefit would be higher margins for the manufacturer. Hell they would likely even market the darn thing as a premium product with special caps from japan and blah blah blah so they could sell it at a premium price.

T

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by bobbydrugar

I wouldn't bet on that. have you not seen the threads around here about how DVD makes eyes bleed and kills babies. I have no doubt that some users would actually view a lack of a red laser as a good first step and thank god no more DVD's. The added benefit would be higher margins for the manufacturer. Hell they would likely even market the darn thing as a premium product with special caps from japan and blah blah blah so they could sell it at a premium price.

T

Yes I would definitely bet on that. DVD still has 70% of the market and billions of discs out in circulation. Absolutely no chance that a manufacturer does not include it.