The Abyss 4K UHD (1989)

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

The UK had issues with ratings. He's not talking about the USA domestic release.

Oh I know about that, was talking about someone else.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

Oh I know about that, was talking about someone else.

Ah, gotcha.

[SpacemanDoug]

Originally Posted by Kyle15

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Only 799 words to go

[Bourne1886]

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

What is he babbling about?

Probably had a drink, it is Christmas!

[mjvmovieman]

Originally Posted by Markgway

I agree. Those loony cocksmokers really do my head in.

Cocksmoker? I just have to ask.

[Bourne1886]

Originally Posted by mjvmovieman

Cocksmoker? I just have to ask.

It means two different things, one is rude one is not!

[MTRodaba2468]

Originally Posted by mjvmovieman

Cocksmoker? I just have to ask.

You've clearly never watched a Kevin Smith movie...

[SwatDB]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

The UK had issues with ratings. He's not talking about the USA domestic release.

The film would have been Uncut with a BBFC 12 rating in the UK, if the so-called "Cinematograph Films (Animals) Act 1937" didn't exist.

Ergo, the BBFC automatically cut out Animal Cruelty/Trips (except "How the West Was Won" [1962] or a few), regardless of what rating distributors have secured for the film in question.

Glad I live in a place where i personally don't take orders for additional censorship to an existing version (UK, Europe and Australia-wise).

[Trekkie313]

Given the age we live in, if the BBFC were really holding up the release I'd expect someone within the industry to speak up on it.

[pjl69]

BBFC (British rating board), not BBC.

I'm little confused how they passed Apocalypse Now uncut in Britain, but not The Abyss...

[Atomic Salad]

Originally Posted by pjl69

BBFC (British rating board), not BBC.

I'm little confused how they passed Apocalypse Now uncut in Britain, but not The Abyss...

Because the rat didn't get eaten.

[rubystone356]

True Lies I get on youtube now. it does come with subtitles on the bottom of the screen.. nothing on the abyss yet.

Jacob

[Dak017]

Originally Posted by KMFDMvsEnya

Film grain is a by product of the analog nature of the medium to capture imagery and is a characteristic that most artists have striven to minimize whenever possible.

It is only recently, relatively speaking, in which filmmakers have had the luxury to intentionally incorporate film grain into the final product as an aesthetic choice.

This isn't really true. Filmmakers have intentionally/artistically used heavy film grain for about 50 years. I think you mean it's only recently that film fans started caring.

I do understand trying to eliminate the added noise from a digital scan though, unfortunately some transfers go too far. I own a lot of noisy 70/80s blu rays that I was shocked to see had crystal clear film prints. Most of the time when people refer to film grain in a negative way, they're really talking about digital noise that surrounds the grain after it's been processed.

[paulboland]

Originally Posted by pjl69

BBFC (British rating board), not BBC.

I'm little confused how they passed Apocalypse Now uncut in Britain, but not The Abyss...

Reason is 1937 Cinematograph Films (Animals) Act
The animal (a water buffalo, or carabao) was killed - but not for the film. The tribe in the film was a real indigenous tribe that lived in the area, and they had already decided to slaughter it. Coppola merely decided to film the event and edit it into the film
This latter point of the act largely applies to documentary producers, though scenes such as the climactic sacrifice in Apocalypse Now (US, d. Francis Coppola, 1979) have also benefited.

Example a documentary showing animals in distress or be killed or get injured is something that would have taken place regardless of whether or not it had been filmed.

The Abyss is different because it was a film that deliberately shows causing distress to a animal and not a natural event that's not allowed under the act

The Abyss rat scene it's not something that would have taken place regardless of whether or not it had been filmed.
It's not a natural event it was done deliberately for the film

The rat demonstration scene in The Abyss was unsimulated and used real-life oxygenated breathing fluid

[ste71]

Originally Posted by paulboland

Reason is 1937 Cinematograph Films (Animals) Act
The animal (a water buffalo, or carabao) was killed - but not for the film. The tribe in the film was a real indigenous tribe that lived in the area, and they had already decided to slaughter it. Coppola merely decided to film the event and edit it into the film
This latter point of the act largely applies to documentary producers, though scenes such as the climactic sacrifice in Apocalypse Now (US, d. Francis Coppola, 1979) have also benefited.

The Abyss is different because it was a film that deliberately shows causing distress to a animal that not allowed under the act

The Abyss rat scene it's not something that would have taken place regardless of whether or not it had been filmed.
It's not a natual event it was done deliberately for the film

The rat demonstration scene in The Abyss was unsimulated and used real-life oxygenated breathing fluid

Also animal slaughter is permissible (even if made for the film, as in Cannibal Holocaust) if it is a 'quick kill' and the animal doesn't suffer, if its killed humanely.

[rubystone356]

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You might find number 10 very interesting.

Jacob

[Wtdk]

It’s been cancelled in the UK. A scene UK censors insisted be cut.

https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/m...ts/122623-1600

[Trekkie313]

The UK was a mistake.

[Geoff D]

Oh noes! It's not like we won't be able to import it from the US or a European country with as much ease as buying a UK version...

[Zechs Merquise]

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

The UK was a mistake.

Being from the UK I would sadly have to agree

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Oh noes! It's not like we won't be able to import it from the US or a European country with as much ease as buying a UK version...

Eh, ever since the pandemic ordering from Amazon US has become a pain in the ass