The Criterion Collection

[rdandura]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Sucks, and there is no signs of damage on the actual disc or disc rot? If so, that's strange.

I've checked mine like three times in the last few days and it's fine, so I'm just hoping it was pressed at a different plant or at a different date.

I’ve been paranoid about that title for almost five years now. My copy still works perfectly fine after all those years, but I’m hoping Criterion reissues it soon.

I’ve heard, though, that they can replace that title in spite of its OOP status.

[theater dreamer]

Originally Posted by jayembee

Since it's likely that Paramount titles will be leaving the Collection as licenses lapse, I figured that I'd take dwk's list of the titles, and re-order them by release date. That might help people try and prioritize them, as the older they've been around, the sooner they're likely to go OOP. I've left the already OOP ones in (as well as not-going-OOP Medium Cool) for context.

2008 12 02 #455 White Dog [DVD-only]

Thank you. I’d been looking at the MoC release, more recently thinking the decency police would get it pulled because of the plot. Turns out Paramount is just going to seal off other releases. I’ve got a copy on the way. ❤️ Eureka for still having free shipping. I hate to do it for one film, but $19.61 isn’t a bad price.

Now to work on the others.

[theater dreamer]

Originally Posted by rdandura

I’ve been paranoid about that title for almost five years now. My copy still works perfectly fine after all those years, but I’m hoping Criterion reissues it soon.

I’ve heard, though, that they can replace that title in spite of its OOP status.

They can hold extra copies just to use as replacements for defective discs. How many I’m not sure, but since the purchase was made before the license expired, there’s no issue. It’s not another cash transaction.

[jkoffman]

Originally Posted by Strangerbyday

Nah, I don't contact them in advance. I suppose its possible that they opened the package before shipping it forward & checked the price in the box & that I might have just gotten lucky with all past orders from Shout etc. that passed through without issue & got stung this time. Pity.

Yeah, I'd say your shipper added the value. Because I've received at least -- no joke -- 1000 orders within the U.S. and not one shipper has ever put the value on the label or anywhere on the box. It simply isn't standard at all here within the U.S., from any shipping company I've dealt with. I'm also a seller of over 15,000 items and I've never put a value on any box I've shipped either.

[jkoffman]

Originally Posted by ShellBeacher

Criterion of course is "damned if you do, damned if you don't" in terms of giving notice to its customers/fan base. I can see the reasoning for not announcing anything prior to the Flash Sale or at all, even in a niche market -- they don't want scalpers to scrap up everything, either on sale days or simply due to OOP announcements.

Originally Posted by jw007

I'm hoping to hold on to these for a year or so and then try and sell them on Ebay when they're scarcer for under $100 each to make a bit of a profit.

[UnionJackMix]

What I don't understand is why Criterion won't ship internationally.
I mean fine, their releases are meant to be watched/sold in the US and Canada only because that is why they are region-locked, but legally only the sale has to happen there, they should not care where the item is shipped. Come on
I envy you guys being able to take advantage of 50% sales on all items.

[The Coconut God]

Originally Posted by UnionJackMix

I didn't want to write a longer post but yes, that is the point that is valid but only for some people. You are forgetting that there are younger people, or people who are not yet movie buffs enough to know they will be interested in these titles, so the way I think, the market should still be there for those who in due time will come to desire those titles. You know what I mean?
For example, I had a newly-found interest for blind buys when TT went out of business, and the hysteria around them going out of business ignited an interest inside of me for movies I had never any interest in, simply because there were multiple factors that made me want to buy them (Fox titles that will never be reissued, crime movies I had never been interested before). And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Once I bought up the dozens of titles, I moved on to Eureka and Indicator, where I bought up all titles I had a remote interest in.
But I could afford it. Even then, there were already some titles that were OOP, because others wanted them, but clearly also because scalpers bought them up when they were in low numbers (scalper lurkers on here, or fans on here, or alerted by tweets and instagram posts).

Even now, there are titles I might enjoy, and would blind buy at retail price, but I can't because of the reasons above, so in the end it's my loss, for not maturing fast enough to know I'd want them, but also because of scalpers. So if someone says they are going to buy them up for scalping purposes, well, other posters have given already an appropriate response

Quoted for truth. It's one thing to prioritize your purchases over the span of 10 years, and quite another to catch up on an already vast catalogue with only a small budget at your disposal.

There are 40 titles on my Criterion wishlist, not counting future announcements and potential box sets, which I'm not considering yet. Some of them have been on the list for 2 years; that doesn't mean I don't want to own them. It was simply a matter of new discoveries being more exciting, and sometimes of circumstances (such as Amazon not price matching those titles during the B&N sale or not including them in the 2 for 25 or 3 for 30 offers in the UK). With Criterion, it was always a matter of "what I want to watch next" vs "what might be going OOP". There has been plenty of that lately with Eureka titles, Arrow and BFI booklets and other limited editions. Plus various titles from outside the boutique labels that I wanted to make sure I owned (such as the Czech release of The Good Soldier Svejk). It's certainly not easy.

If Criterion starts dropping titles the way Eureka did, I don't see myself being able to keep up. Luckily for me, I don't feel like I missed out on this batch, since I already have the UK release of Nashville and I'll be more than happy with a barebones Rosemary's Baby (I was always going to buy one of the European releases anyway). But I might have to bump up Ace in the Hole from low-mid priority to high, which is annoying, because there are already more films I'm dying to see than I can afford in the next batch, and I'll have to delay those even more.

[Xtempo]

Originally Posted by BluProofie

I wish we knew if a Kurosawa boxset was likely. There are still a bunch I need, but I don’t want to buy anymore if something is coming.

I would love this as well. I've stop buying the DVDs for the most part hoping they get an upgrade to blu like almost all the rest of his films in the collection

[ihaveblink]

you think the friends of eddie coyle will come back into print or? i've waited to check that one out and I might pull the trigger for a MSRP of it.

[Cinematt]

Originally Posted by koberulz

Disney has refused to renew every other licensing deal that's come up. Doubt Criterion will be an exception.

Intriguingly Criterion have just started to release Fox titles in the UK. Until this year it was only the Tree of Life that had made it here, and obviously there are special circumstances to that. We wondered if it was Wes Anderson's deal that got Grand Budapest Hotel released, but Kagemusha is out here on Monday and there doesn't seem to be any exceptional circumstance that can be put on that, so it's possible Criterion still has some pull beyond your average licensee.

[backwater]

This is a surprise:
Amazon’s ‘Sound of Metal,’ ‘Time,’ and ‘One Night in Miami’ to Join Criterion Collection in 2021

[BluProofie]

Originally Posted by backwater

This is a surprise:
Amazon’s ‘Sound of Metal,’ ‘Time,’ and ‘One Night in Miami’ to Join Criterion Collection in 2021

More streaming flicks on blu is great news. Hoping for Borat 2, honestly.

[theater dreamer]

Just a FYI to anyone looking for Harold and Maude on blu-Ray. I called Movie Trading Company after checking their site. They had multiple used copies listed available for $21.99. The store closest to me in Plano, TX is temporarily closed due to storm damage after the blizzard that nailed the whole state. And the next closest store in Broken Arrow, OK had a copy, but it had been placed on hold. The guy there confirmed at least two unspoken for copies. I called the Fayetteville, AR store and got one. There should still be at least one copy yet available. Call your local store, and have the store manager look up the stock. They’ll give you the store location and telephone number. Ashley went and pulled my copy. Total with tax and shipping was $28.52.

I’ve bought at least 20 used blu-rays from them, including a number of Criterions, and they’ve all been in like new condition.

Good luck.

BTW, if you should grab that copy, you might just make a quick post to let everyone know so they’re not calling Anchorage, Alaska, or someplace. If you’re told that there are still copies (they are constantly getting inventory in), maybe share that, too.

[klauswhereareyou]

All those famous people that got to make Criterion closet picks probably getting ready to scalp some titles on Ebay.

[blujazz]

Amazon’s ‘Sound of Metal,’ ‘Time,’ and ‘One Night in Miami’ to Join Criterion Collection

Edit:
Oops - just saw someone post this already

AKA how to distract us from the OOP news LOL

[t4t3r]

Originally Posted by theater dreamer

Just a FYI to anyone looking for Harold and Maude on blu-Ray. I called Movie Trading Company after checking their site. They had multiple used copies listed available for $21.99. The store closest to me in Plano, TX is temporarily closed due to storm damage after the blizzard that nailed the whole state. And the next closest store in Broken Arrow, OK had a copy, but it had been placed on hold. The guy there confirmed at least two unspoken for copies. I called the Fayetteville, AR store and got one. There should still be at least one copy yet available. Call your local store, and have the store manager look up the stock. They’ll give you the store location and telephone number. Ashley went and pulled my copy. Total with tax and shipping was $28.52.

I’ve bought at least 20 used blu-rays from them, including a number of Criterions, and they’ve all been in like new condition.

Good luck.

BTW, if you should grab that copy, you might just make a quick post to let everyone know so they’re not calling Anchorage, Alaska, or someplace. If you’re told that there are still copies (they are constantly getting inventory in), maybe share that, too.

Great post, this is what we need more of!

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by BluProofie

More streaming flicks on blu is great news. Hoping for Borat 2, honestly.

Yeah, was hoping for Borat 2. Nothing else I really care about from the Amazon films right now.

[CelestialAgent]

Originally Posted by blujazz

Amazon’s ‘Sound of Metal,’ ‘Time,’ and ‘One Night in Miami’ to Join Criterion Collection

Edit:
Oops - just saw someone post this already

AKA how to distract us from the OOP news LOL

Glad to be able to add something to my thread for a change! Amazon titles have been pretty bereft on disc of late.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=322411

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Yeah, was hoping for Borat 2. Nothing else I really care about from the Amazon films right now.

It wouldn't make sense for Criterion to release it but somebody should when of course Fox put out the first one. Plus, I'm sure there's lots of deleted material or outtakes (I would guess Cohen is quite improvisational?)

[jw007]

Originally Posted by ravenus

You need to also factor in the fuel costs of driving down and back.

Originally Posted by traths

What kind of reaction did you get from the B&N employees when you bought those?

Originally Posted by mande2013

I tried this once with Ran back in the day(fell upon multiple copies in a brick and mortar after it was officially OOP) but only wound up getting roughly MSRP for each copy oddly.

Originally Posted by UnionJackMix

I can only think of the people who might find out they would like to buy these titles and can't because you bought them with the sole purpose of scalping them off on eBay.

Originally Posted by CinemaBlu

Me too. I can understand wanting a backup copy for yourself, but buying up copies just to scalp them later just makes you an a**hole.

Sorry jw007, I still like you, but that was kind of a dick move

Originally Posted by t4t3r

People are free to do what they want with their money and the items they own, but coming to a place simply to gloat where people collectively discuss those items because of their shared interest in such a hobby is absolutely cringe-worthy.

I see I received a lot of reaction to my provocative action and posting about buying all the OOP Criterion at a local Barnes & Noble. Believe it or not, the cashier there smiled when she saw all the Criterions I was buying, and I even asked her if there were other people doing this and she said yes.

Do I regret anything I've done? Absolutely not.

I'll tell you the reasons.

1. I might decide to return all of these titles and get a refund, especially the DVDs as I'm realizing that I made a compulsive purchase based on a whim.
   
2. I'm curious to see what a first-time scalper feels like and as an experiment I want to see if I feel despicable after doing this. Hey, you only live once.
   
3. I often enjoy the thrill of finding rare collectibles in the moment but later on I don't feel contentment anymore after my discovery. That goes back to point #1 of most likely returning the DVDs as I have no use for them.
   
4. Being currently unemployed, getting $100 for a rare OOP title would help my living situation just a tad, at least paying off next month's utilities.

In terms of the cost of gas, I figured that was a sarcastic remark, as I basically spent $1-2 on the driving back and forth to the store which is hardly anything in my view.

Basically to sum up my post, I am most likely going to return the Criterion DVDs to the shop to let others have the opportunity to buy them as opposed to me trying to make money off of them online. The blu-rays I might keep though (one as a backup copy, and one to sell online). If anyone has a problem with that, sue me.

[BluProofie]

Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

Glad to be able to add something to my thread for a change! Amazon titles have been pretty bereft on disc of late.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=322411



It wouldn't make sense for Criterion to release it but somebody should when of course Fox put out the first one. Plus, I'm sure there's lots of deleted material or outtakes (I would guess Cohen is quite improvisational?)

Fox/Disney doesn't own the sequel. If they did, it wouldn’t get a release. It makes perfect sense for Criterion to do it, it’s probably going to be an Oscar nominee.