The Criterion Collection

[At The Moooovies]

Originally Posted by trobrianders

So to confirm. If Criterion offer most of their 4k releases for $19.99 during their flash sale, B&N will do the same during their month long sale? If so it takes the pressure off me this month so will be really useful to know.

Both sales have the same prices, 50% off MSRP for all Criterions.
Most single film BDs MSRP $40 will be $20, 4K UHD MSRP $50 will be $25.

[trobrianders]

Originally Posted by At The Moooovies

Both sales have the same prices, 50% off MSRP for all Criterions.
Most single film BDs MSRP $40 will be $20, 4K UHD MSRP $50 will be $25.

Now I'm confused. Prices of most Criterion 4ks on their website are $39.96 not $50.

[At The Moooovies]

Originally Posted by trobrianders

Now I'm confused. Prices of most Criterion 4ks on their website are $39.96 not $50.

Virtually all items sold at retailers have a MSRP. It's a standard price set by the manufacturer. Think of it as the list price. Most retailers sell below MSRP, including Criterion themself. The standard for Criterion BD is $40 and 4K UHD $50. Just look at their own website:
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[rickmiddlebrooks]

Originally Posted by trobrianders

Now I'm confused. Prices of most Criterion 4ks on their website are $39.96 not $50.

The MSRP is the lined out $49.95 below the bold $39.96 price you see.

Look carefully; $39.96 is Criterion's usual sale price, not the MSRP.

Rick

Edit: What At The Moooovies said!

[At The Moooovies]

Originally Posted by rickmiddlebrooks

the msrp is the lined out $49.95 below the bold $39.96 price you see.

Look carefully; $39.96 is criterion's usual sale price, not the msrp.

Rick

edit: What at the moooovies said!

Criterion's site labels it SRP aka MSRP.
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[trobrianders]

OK got it. Criterion's flash sale price will be 50% off the MSRP, a price they don't normally sell at and not 50% off the price they do normally sell at.

And Barnes and Noble's sale price will be 50% off the MSRP, a price they do normally sell at and not 50% off a price they never sell at.

[At The Moooovies]

Originally Posted by trobrianders

OK got it. The flash sale price will be 50% off the MSRP, a price they don't normally sell at and not 50% off the price they do normally sell at.

Ignore "normal" because every retailer sells for whatever price they want to, on any given day as well. Those 50% off Vinegar Syndrome sales? Also off the MSRP. B&N 30% off sales? Also off of the MSRP. Arrow 50% off of what sale? MSRP. Get it?

[trobrianders]

Originally Posted by At The Moooovies

Ignore "normal" because every retailer sells for whatever price they want to, on any given day as well. Those 50% off Vinegar Syndrome sales? Also off the MSRP. B&N 30% off sales? Also off of the MSRP. Arrow 50% off of what sale? MSRP. Get it?

If Criterion flash sale price and B&N month long sale price is going to be $25 for the average 4k then I've "got" all I need to get for now. Helps me budget and helps me plan stackry orders to ship to UK that need to come in at below £135 value. Thanks for clarifying.

[Taylor3978]

Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

It just sucks that there's only a few OOP DVDs of that movie. I don't even know if it's on streaming. I just bought it on tape (from a nitwit who himself only bought it because he assumed Orion equals horror), and it was amazing. The tape barely worked, but it was still amazing.

Yes, an excellent (and literate, and sensuous) Philip Kaufman film......Daniel Day-Lewis, Juliette Binoche, Lena Olin.....

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by Rayjg

For kids today if it ain’t on TikTak it doesn’t exist.

^this.

Of the people I've talked to recently (none on this site though, you guys actually have taste), the answers I've gotten for their favorite movies are disappointing to say the least. While some of the movies they liked were admittedly fun (for instance, Killer Klowns From Outer Space), the rest of them were frankly shit (all of the free horror movies on YouTube or the third-rate horror movies on Netflix).

I began asking my one friend about some of the movies I know and I like, and whether he had seen them. The shortlist included...

[Show spoiler]-The Cabinet Of Dr. Caligari
-Nosferatu
-Metropolis (my pick for the greatest movie ever)
-Freaks
-What Price Hollywood
-King Kong
-Snow White
-The Wizard Of Oz
-Fantasia
-Casablanca
-It's A Wonderful Life
-Quo Vadis
-All four A Star Is Born movies
-The Ten Commandments
-Raintree COunty
-Ben-Hur
-Sleeping Beauty
-West Side Story
-Lolita
-Dr. Strangelove
-My Fair Lady
-Doctor Zhivago
-Bonnie And Clyde
-2001: A Space Odyssey
-The Wild Bunch
-A Clockwork Orange
-The Godfather
-Dog Day Afternoon
-Looking For Mr. Goodbar
-Little Darlings
-Tron
-Videodrome
-The Matrix

His reactions included "I don't like black and white movies," "older movies aren't really that good", and most of them "are pretty boring". Note that he has yet to see any of them. I nearly died when he said that about some of the best films in history.

[Taylor3978]

Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

His reactions included "I don't like black and white movies," "older movies aren't really that good", and most of them "are pretty boring". Note that he has yet to see any of them. I nearly died when he said that about some of the best films in history.

People are basically lazy and incurious. Everything else is excuses.

It used to be you would catch old films on late night TV. We think of it as the Dark Age before we could just buy the physical disk, but with the market giving up on physical media and streaming services basically regarding old films as so much filler in their schedules, it could get much worse. It used to you'd plonk yourself in front of the TV late at night and some old B&W gem would come on (I still have fond memories as a young kid watching King Kong on a 9" TV with my Dad and uncle, and them marveling at how great it was). Now you have to search it out, and most people are directed by the brain-dead AI algorithms to Top 40 because that's all it understands.

TCM is still providing that programming, but the cuts that were made to preserve Zaslav's bonus have had an effect (RIP TCM Underground, a huge lost opportunity to reach out to younger viewers) and I fear it's just a matter of time before they sell off the WB film library. I hope Criterion Channel can survive, but man, imagine if the suits had not killed off FilmStruck.

[Shane Rollins]

Roughly a minute of the restored Mean Streets has been released:

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=33386

While properly done 4K releases always impress me, there's something special about Scorsese's films being restored. He's one of those filmmakers who realizes that restoring one of his films is not a convenient opportunity for a mulligan, it's his chance to give film fans the definitive presentation of a film they love.

While After Hours was one of the most demanded Blu-rays ever, the truly stunning 4K made the wait worth it, at least for me. Mean Streets will be just as amazing.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by Taylor3978

People are basically lazy and incurious. Everything else is excuses.

It used to be you would catch old films on late night TV. We think of it as the Dark Age before we could just buy the physical disk, but with the market giving up on physical media and streaming services basically regarding old films as so much filler in their schedules, it could get much worse. It used to you'd plonk yourself in front of the TV late at night and some old B&W gem would come on (I still have fond memories as a young kid watching King Kong on a 9" TV with my Dad and uncle, and them marveling at how great it was). Now you have to search it out, and most people are directed by the brain-dead AI algorithms to Top 40 because that's all it understands.

This used to be me too. I remember seeing tons of amazing films on TV. Charlie Chaplin, The Ten Commandments, The Sound Of Music, A Clockwork Orange, Fritz The Cat, The Godfather movies, Three Amigos, The Bad Seed, Night Of The Living Dead, Scarface, Looking For Mr. Goodbar, and a ton more.

The last movie I even watched on TV, which was a total accident, was My Mother's New Boyfriend with Meg Ryan. It was good, but certainly no unsung masterpiece like the previous generations have found on TV.

Originally Posted by Taylor3978

TCM is still providing that programming, but the cuts that were made to preserve Zaslav's bonus have had an effect (RIP TCM Underground, a huge lost opportunity to reach out to younger viewers) and I fear it's just a matter of time before they sell off the WB film library. I hope Criterion Channel can survive, but man, imagine if the suits had not killed off FilmStruck.

I wish the first executive who gave himself a bonus could be resurrected, just so I could smack the ever-loving shit out of him. Zaslav has no appreciation for the art of filmmaking or its history. In fact he most likely couldn't spell the word 'film' if you gave him the first three letters.

And yes, gutting TCM and disrespecting the WB catalog is a shameful act. It's harming film in both the short run and the long run, and I think the WB brass and the shareholders will only figure that out once it's too late. I'm not 100% sure they'll sell the catalog, but whatever isn't sold will just rot in the cans until competent leadership takes over. The only reason I'm not more vocal about booting Zaslav is because he's the only reason why WAC still exists.

[koberulz]

Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

The only reason I'm not more vocal about booting Zaslav is because he's the only reason why WAC still exists.

WAC was reinstated under AT&T.

As for the "kids these days don't watch old films"...kids back in your day didn't watch old films either. Most people don't, and never have. You're on a film enthusiast forum, obviously things are going to be different here, but the majority of the population doesn't care because it's not a field that interests them. Talk to them in depth about their hobbies and you'd seem pretty clueless in those fields, too.

[Ishai]

Originally Posted by At The Moooovies

B&N $40
Criterion $75

Note that Criterion also has a rewards program that's essentially 10% back ($50 GC) after $500 spent.

B&N also has a similar program called "stamps", I think it's only 5% back but you get the reward faster (after spending $100), and of course it isn't limited to Criterion releases.

[alexrinse]

Originally Posted by trobrianders

OK got it. Criterion's flash sale price will be 50% off the MSRP, a price they don't normally sell at and not 50% off the price they do normally sell at.

And Barnes and Noble's sale price will be 50% off the MSRP, a price they do normally sell at and not 50% off a price they never sell at.

I'm not using Stackry, so I also have to remember they add the VAT on at the end!

[Alfredlynch]

Good day to all. Does anyone know if old digi-pack releases are sure to come in hard cases at this point? I am trying to stay consistent in hard-cased versions of Criterion releases. I know some have been switched and I recently picked up the regular hard case of Dazed and Confused to my surprise at a store. I would love to get hard cases of Repo Man, Mullholland Drive, Silence of the Lambs, Thelma and Louise, Scanners, and and Blue Velvet if they are available. If so, how would one know or ensure getting them when ordering?

[trobrianders]

Can I use my gift card in a flash sale, anyone? I can't remember why they sent me one but I'd like to use it.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by trobrianders

Can I use my gift card in a flash sale, anyone? I can't remember why they sent me one but I'd like to use it.

Yes

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Alfredlynch

Good day to all. Does anyone know if old digi-pack releases are sure to come in hard cases at this point? I am trying to stay consistent in hard-cased versions of Criterion releases. I know some have been switched and I recently picked up the regular hard case of Dazed and Confused to my surprise at a store. I would love to get hard cases of Repo Man, Mullholland Drive, Silence of the Lambs, Thelma and Louise, Scanners, and and Blue Velvet if they are available. If so, how would one know or ensure getting them when ordering?

Yes, they're all included, and always will be with those particular releases. It's part of the main packaging, rather than something limited.