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Old 04-28-2017, 12:50 PM   #881
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WOW, not only a firmware update but quite a nice Services update too, which added YouTube, Spotify, SiriusXM, Crackle, FoxNews and several others.

Hoping YouTube works better here as my Sammy KS8000's version has a bug that makes me re-authenticate every day. Gives me a 4K alternative till Samsung/Google get their app fixed.

Finally starting to see the streaming side of this thing.
That's why I went with this player instead of the Oppo 203. Their Netflix 4K app runs way better than on any other player or TV I've used it on so far.
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Old 04-28-2017, 05:53 PM   #882
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Are .mkv files still forced at 60 frames per second? All previous Blu-ray players had this.
I am not asking the impossible here. Please, can someone help me on this?

It's easy to test.
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Old 04-28-2017, 06:19 PM   #883
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I am not asking the impossible here. Please, can someone help me on this?

It's easy to test.
How do you test it and I'll find out for you.
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Old 04-28-2017, 06:41 PM   #884
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How do you test it and I'll find out for you.
Thanks. If you have a .mkv file that was shot in 24 frames per second, just look at output in the info bar on your TV. If it's 24p or 50/60p. Make sure the resolution setting in your 4K Blu-ray player is on auto.

-Or if you have an audio delay set up (for lip sync) you will notice different behaviour too.
-And by playing you will have a "video look" instead of the 24 frames.

Here's also a topic on the Sony forums about the 2015 models. I really wonder if Sony "fixed" this.

https://community.sony-europe.com/t5...ector?nobounce


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Old 04-28-2017, 07:14 PM   #885
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Thanks. If you have a .mkv file that was shot in 24 frames per second, just look at output in the info bar on your TV. If it's 24p or 50/60p. Make sure the resolution setting in your 4K Blu-ray player is on auto.

-Or if you have an audio delay set up (for lip sync) you will notice different behaviour too.
-And by playing you will have a "video look" instead of the 24 frames.

Here's also a topic on the Sony forums about the 2015 models. I really wonder if Sony "fixed" this.

https://community.sony-europe.com/t5...ector?nobounce

Will try it out for you. I have all my mkv files on hard drives and play them through Plex. The Sony will allow me to play them off the Plex server so I'll let you know what it says.
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Old 04-28-2017, 07:21 PM   #886
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Will try it out for you. I have all my mkv files on hard drives and play them through Plex. The Sony will allow me to play them off the Plex server so I'll let you know what it says.
Please test with an USB-stick too.
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Old 04-28-2017, 07:27 PM   #887
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Pieter V - just tried 5 different mkv files and they all show 60p.

On a side note, a few more apps were installed. Sirius XM, Berliner Philharmonic, Mubi, and
Slacker Radio.
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Old 04-28-2017, 07:39 PM   #888
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Pieter V - just tried 5 different mkv files and they all show 60p.

On a side note, a few more apps were installed. Sirius XM, Berliner Philharmonic, Mubi, and
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Thanks for testing. Then I have to skip this player.
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Old 04-28-2017, 08:56 PM   #889
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Thanks for testing. Then I have to skip this player.
I will check after each future update and if it changes I will let you know. It is a pretty remarkable player though.
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Old 04-28-2017, 09:32 PM   #890
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I will check after each future update and if it changes I will let you know. It is a pretty remarkable player though.
Thanks. But I just had a chat with Sony USA. They confirmed it was "designed" like that. But I strongly suggested to re-consider it.

In order to do that, they wanted me to make a phone call. Sony (4K) Blu-ray players are great and silent players, but this "feature" should be removed.

If anyone in the USA wants to contact Sony about this, here is the telephone number:

[Show spoiler]1-800-222-7669


I will also contact Sony Netherlands about this.
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Old 04-28-2017, 10:05 PM   #891
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Thanks. If you have a .mkv file that was shot in 24 frames per second, just look at output in the info bar on your TV. If it's 24p or 50/60p. Make sure the resolution setting in your 4K Blu-ray player is on auto.

-Or if you have an audio delay set up (for lip sync) you will notice different behaviour too.
-And by playing you will have a "video look" instead of the 24 frames.

Here's also a topic on the Sony forums about the 2015 models. I really wonder if Sony "fixed" this.

https://community.sony-europe.com/t5...ector?nobounce

Not all TVs don't show the frame rate. I know my Sony UHDTV won't show the framerate for anything at 2160P. And at 1080P it will only show a 24P framerate. It won't show 30P or 60P.

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Old 04-30-2017, 03:15 AM   #892
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I am not asking the impossible here. Please, can someone help me on this?

It's easy to test.
The player can output mkv's in native 24p output. You must select network 24p output in display settings. Not enabled by default. All sony players from 2015 can do this. Nothing special.
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Pieter V - just tried 5 different mkv files and they all show 60p.

On a side note, a few more apps were installed. Sirius XM, Berliner Philharmonic, Mubi, and
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Enable 24p network playback in video settings.
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So I have had this issue with both x800 and x1000es if I leave a movie on pause and come back 20 minutes or so later both the TV and player are shut off. I have Sony HDTV 2016 model 930D. It happens every time I take a break to do other stuff, quite annoying. Anyone have any idea if this is some kind of setting issue? Does not do it with Oppo 203 or UB900, if I use those players I can take a break for 20 mins and come back and player is still on and I can resume movie. Both Sony players shut off and TV does the same. I can't find what the problem is.
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So I have had this issue with both x800 and x1000es if I leave a movie on pause and come back 20 minutes or so later both the TV and player are shut off. I have Sony HDTV 2016 model 930D. It happens every time I take a break to do other stuff, quite annoying. Anyone have any idea if this is some kind of setting issue? Does not do it with Oppo 203 or UB900, if I use those players I can take a break for 20 mins and come back and player is still on and I can resume movie. Both Sony players shut off and TV does the same. I can't find what the problem is.
I think it's called "automatic standby" that should be turned off on the players.
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So I have had this issue with both x800 and x1000es if I leave a movie on pause and come back 20 minutes or so later both the TV and player are shut off. I have Sony HDTV 2016 model 930D. It happens every time I take a break to do other stuff, quite annoying. Anyone have any idea if this is some kind of setting issue? Does not do it with Oppo 203 or UB900, if I use those players I can take a break for 20 mins and come back and player is still on and I can resume movie. Both Sony players shut off and TV does the same. I can't find what the problem is.


I don't think the x1000es is out yet, so how could you have that problem with that player?

Crutchfield says Pre-Order and it's not even on the Sony site yet.
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The player can output mkv's in native 24p output. You must select network 24p output in display settings. Not enabled by default. All sony players from 2015 can do this. Nothing special.
Is this for streaming or also playing on an USB-stick?
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So I have had this issue with both x800 and x1000es if I leave a movie on pause and come back 20 minutes or so later both the TV and player are shut off. I have Sony HDTV 2016 model 930D. It happens every time I take a break to do other stuff, quite annoying. Anyone have any idea if this is some kind of setting issue? Does not do it with Oppo 203 or UB900, if I use those players I can take a break for 20 mins and come back and player is still on and I can resume movie. Both Sony players shut off and TV does the same. I can't find what the problem is.
It's not a problem. Its doing that by design. Personally I've never run into it. Since if I'm going to be away more than a few minutes, I'm turning everything off any way.

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I don't think the x1000es is out yet, so how could you have that problem with that player?

Crutchfield says Pre-Order and it's not even on the Sony site yet.
BestBuy got the X1000 in stock earlier this week. I could order one right now and pick it up in a few days at the twenty BestBuy stores near me.

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It's not a problem. Its doing that by design. Personally I've never run into it. Since if I'm going to be away more than a few minutes, I'm turning everything off any way.
I don't turn everything off, but yeah if it's more than a quick pause it's better to stop the disc. Most have resume now anyway and if they don't it's pretty easy to get to a timecode.
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