Sony UBP-X800 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[Prim]

Originally Posted by cochon

Hi,
On the outside the player is rated as having only a fix 120V 60 Hz input. The 60HZ is not a problem in Europe for this type of device but you MUST use a transformer which is what I do or you'll risk blowing it up.

The close captions I have not tried however there's been a discussion earlier on this thread where we discovered one difference between my Australian player -also the European versions- vs the US version. If I recall properly in the US model they took away the feature that controls the "auto standby" and replaced it with "close captions" which according to what I saw in my menu allows you to change how close captions are displayed. If this is really important to you let me know and I'll try to check but I am not sure whether I have many NTSC DVDs with close captions and finding them in this place can be a lottery

I think CC support is NTSC only, for pretty much all players. I can' t remember any PAL region players having it, from reading manuals. Was hoping this would be one of those labelled as 120v but in reality having a 110-240v psu, like many players out there, but better to use a transformer than to see it go POP!

[jala12]

Originally Posted by Leterface

Can I ask what TV you have, wondering if my Samsung KS7000 or the X800 does a better job with upscaling as I haven't had the chance to try out myself. But what I have understood is that many new TVs are often infact better with scaling than the players.

I have a Samsung JS8500 which is one of the earlier models. I'm not sure how the KS series upscaling is, but try comparing when you get the chance!

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by jala12

Ah, I see. I tried turning off auto 2 on the player and the TV upscale looks quite inferior. With the player's upscaling, the picture stands out a lot better.

I generally prefer the player to do the upscale, yeah. I mean there's only a gnat's chuff between them but the player(s) usually stand out as being that bit sharper.

[cochon]

Originally Posted by Prim

I think CC support is NTSC only, for pretty much all players. I can' t remember any PAL region players having it, from reading manuals. Was hoping this would be one of those labelled as 120v but in reality having a 110-240v psu, like many players out there, but better to use a transformer than to see it go POP!

I have plans to open it but I have too much on my hands at the moment. I've got the feeling it will have a regular transformer inside but even if it has a switching power supply inside unless it is identical to the other player I have I wouldn't risk plugging it to 240. I've been searching for a service manual to see what's in there but so far I had no luck.

[eddievanhalen]

I have a Samsung UE49KU6400 a Series 6 European 49'' 4K HDR set and I find its upscaling much better than the one done by the Sony X-800 which I've owned for 7 months. First of all, I have Sharpness set to 20 on the Samsung T.V. for all inputs and settings, with that in mind I find Sony's X-800 upscaling looking soft, upscaling done by the Samsung T.V. looks sharper and it's not something subtle, I tested this with my 72 years old mother who doesn't anything about this matters, I just asked her "what picture you like best?". The one she chose was the upscaled by the Samsung T.V.

[ChiefSequatchie]

So has anyone had any problem with "screen cast" or what ever its called?

I tried to get it to screen cast some Youtube vids last night from both my tablet which is a cheap RCA but it serves its purpose as well as my Galaxy S8 phone and I never could get it to work.

Both of my devices recognized the player but when I clicked for it to "cast" it never would go through.

I've never had a problem with being able to cast to my 55 inch HDTV upstairs so I know its not my tablet/phone.

[Prim]

Originally Posted by cochon

I have plans to open it but I have too much on my hands at the moment. I've got the feeling it will have a regular transformer inside but even if it has a switching power supply inside unless it is identical to the other player I have I wouldn't risk plugging it to 240. I've been searching for a service manual to see what's in there but so far I had no luck.

I wouldn't gamble on it either, so I completely understand. All I've found is a couple of mentions of it on this ifixit page: https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/...+compatibility.

[lord_hawk]

I've just started having freezing issues today for some reason. Saw two short movies back to back and it froze three times. I've only had it for a couple weeks but it seemed to be working fine.

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I generally prefer the player to do the upscale, yeah. I mean there's only a gnat's chuff between them but the player(s) usually stand out as being that bit sharper.

I though the general consensus was to always let the display do the scaling?

[Brahby]

Originally Posted by DJR662

I though the general consensus was to always let the display do the scaling?

I have the LG OLED C6 and I prefer the players upscaling over the sets. I will probably always favor Sony upscaling over LG

[JimDiGriz]

Just got a multiregion X800 and very happy with it! Looks great paired up with my Panasonic 952 OLED. I already had an Xbox One X which looks great with 4K too mind. Thanks for all the comments here from various people. This player is like a tank compared to my cheap old one!

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by DJR662

I though the general consensus was to always let the display do the scaling?

I can't speak for the consensus but it simply depends on what does it better, generally the players have the edge in my experience.

[sonyfanboy]

Does this player upscale 3D to 4K?

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by sonyfanboy

Does this player upscale 3D to 4K?

4K TVs (3,840 x 2,160-pixel resolution) with passive 3D can still deliver greater than HD resolution in 3D, @ 3,840 x 1,080 pixels per eye.

Can 4K BR players do it too? I think so.

[Geoff D]

Nope. No conventional disc player upscales 2K 3D to 4K 3D.

[reewinder]

Originally Posted by sonyfanboy

Does this player upscale 3D to 4K?

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

4K TVs (3,840 x 2,160-pixel resolution) with passive 3D can still deliver greater than HD resolution in 3D, @ 3,840 x 1,080 pixels per eye.

Can 4K BR players do it too? I think so.

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Nope. No conventional disc player upscales 2K 3D to 4K 3D.

I just got this player yesterday and played a few chapters from various 3D movies. I'm not certain if it's a placebo effect or not but the 3D looked way better than my older Samsung 3D player I had before.
Guardians Of The Galaxy vol 2 looked especially great. I noticed a lot more depth in all the scenes. Now I'm waiting for my Valerian and Terminator 2 3D steelbooks to show up. I went with a modded region free model since more and more North American 3D titles aren't getting released and some end up region locked from other countries.
And yes.....3D on a passive 4K screen looks absolutely stunning. This is how 3D should have been from the get go. Had it been I'm sure every manufacturer would still be supporting it.

[finalmattasy]

Originally Posted by reewinder

I just got this player yesterday and played a few chapters from various 3D movies. I'm not certain if it's a placebo effect or not but the 3D looked way better than my older Samsung 3D player I had before.
Guardians Of The Galaxy vol 2 looked especially great. I noticed a lot more depth in all the scenes. Now I'm waiting for my Valerian and Terminator 2 3D steelbooks to show up. I went with a modded region free model since more and more North American 3D titles aren't getting released and some end up region locked from other countries.
And yes.....3D on a passive 4K screen looks absolutely stunning. This is how 3D should have been from the get go. Had it been I'm sure every manufacturer would still be supporting it.

I wonder if I could do that. I have a small sony 3d monitor. If I send the image to both it and my 4k tv, I wonder if the 3d glasses will sync up properly.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Nope. No conventional disc player upscales 2K 3D to 4K 3D.

Thanks.

Can your Sony Z9D 4K TV do it; upscaling 3D @ 3,840 x 1,080 pixels per eye?
But yours is Active 3D.

Can some 2016 LG OLED 4K - 3D Passive model TVs do it?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Thanks.

Can your Sony Z9D 4K TV do it; upscaling 3D @ 3,840 x 1,080 pixels per eye?
But yours is Active 3D.

Can some 2016 LG OLED 4K - 3D Passive model TVs do it?

If the TV isn't upscaling then a 1080p image would literally appear as a quarter-sized portion of the screen, so for horizontal resolution that's a given. But I dunno what the vertical is resolving because I've never bothered to check, I suppose I could check it using the luma multiburst test patterns on Spears & Munsil sometime (my previous Sony 4K TV with active 3D rolled off the highest frequency detail).

The point is that the displays will upscale because they have to, but the players will not and cannot because there's no unified standard for 4K 3D transmission and playback just yet - you can't output an arbitrary "4K 3D" signal if you don't know what the TV can handle. The bandwidth of HDMI itself is not a problem, if you can squirt 4K60 2D down the pipe then that's more than enough for 4K24 3D (same goes for future 4K120 2D, that's 4K60 3D sorted), it's the packing and the signalling of that 4K 3D signal which is the wider issue here.

Once some kind of "UHD 3D" display & disc standard is laid down then we'll know more, if it's frame packed like 3D BD then that would be a 3840x4410 signal (2x 2160 + 90 blanking lines) which the newer players & TVs will know how to decompress and display correctly. Yeah, some people are sending homebrew over/under 3840x2160 signals to TVs and whatnot but that's not the same thing as a unified standard, and until that's in place I doubt you'll see a 4K 3D upscaling feature on players.

[LordoftheRings]

Thx, I understand; it depends of the TV.