Sony UBP-X800 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[JohnAV]

^ look at 3 Days With The Sony UBP-X800 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player (Review) - WhySoBlu 3/4

[elwaylite]

I've had the 800 and 900 for more than 3 days, and just sold the 900 for more than I paid for the Sony. The Sony will remain the main UHD player and streamer in my HT for the foreseeable future.

[PCFan]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

I've had the 800 and 900 for more than 3 days, and just sold the 900 for more than I paid for the Sony. The Sony will remain the main UHD player and streamer in my HT for the foreseeable future.

Does it support automatic refresh rate switching to 24p for Netflix and Vudu? Also when exiting a movie in Netflix or Vudu or going back to the home screen from Netflix or Vudu does the refresh rate return to 60hz? I tried a BDP-S6700 and it would not return back to 60hz after exiting a movie in Netflix or Vudu or going back to the home screen exiting Netflix or Vudu. I was wondering if the X800 has the same issue?

[HDTV1080P]

Hopefully Best Buy and other retail stores will continue to sale optical media like audio CD’s, DVD’s, and Blu-ray’s.

If the so called experts are correct one day optical media will disappear, if so maybe the second or third generation of 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray players might be the last. If optical discs do one day disappear then everyone will be using streaming (or download to hard drive option).

PCFAN I also want to know the answer to your question, however most of the time, the only way someone is going to be able to tell if a streaming device is outputting 24fps (24Hz) is if their display reports the incoming frame (Hz) rate. Many displays only report the resolution and not the frame rate. Or the streaming device needs to report the outgoing frame (Hz) rate, but I have never seen any streaming device report this information, so you are better off finding a display or A/V receiver that has a info screen that shows the incoming Hz rate used.

[elwaylite]

Originally Posted by PCFan

Does it support automatic refresh rate switching to 24p for Netflix and Vudu? Also when exiting a movie in Netflix or Vudu or going back to the home screen from Netflix or Vudu does the refresh rate return to 60hz? I tried a BDP-S6700 and it would not return back to 60hz after exiting a movie in Netflix or Vudu or going back to the home screen exiting Netflix or Vudu. I was wondering if the X800 has the same issue?

Not sure on that one. I thought Home was 60hz all the time. I verified netflix and amazon as 2160p/24 with my preamp, but now I have HDMI 1 connected directly to my display and HDMI 2 to the preamp, so I cant check the other stuff.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

^ look at 3 Days With The Sony UBP-X800 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player (Review) - WhySoBlu 3/4

Holy moly...look @ that...'Suicide Squat' on 4K Blu-ray to evaluate the player!
The worst 4K BR title ever. IMO ...Unless you're a hard-core fan and that your display is specifically calibrated for this title. Even the 3D version cannot make for this fiasco. IMO

* 'Nocturnal Animals' is not bad. ...On Blu. IMO ...But it's no 'Last of the Mohicans' either. ...Way of speech.

P.S. I like your new avatar John; it's really you.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by HeatEquation

10 bit pixel depth doesn't guarantee rec2020. Rec2020 requires 10 bit, but not the other way around.

Many reviews of the KU6300 have covered the fact that the color gamut is only enough for rec709.

So the lack of SDR 2020 support shouldn't dissuade you.

Rtings and other reviews updated to show my set accepts a 10-bit signal and displays a 2020 gradient just fine. I don't know the tech ins and outs of such things, but I know that means I would like a player that sends that signal to at least compare.

[Minimejer05]

Which of the 3/4 sets of numbers on the side of the box is the serial number? And has everyone been rolling with the auto settings? I know on the Samsung it was suggested to switch colors to "Dynamic" mode.

[elwaylite]

As far as Auto settings, make sure BD Audio Mix is off and I'd prob set Deep Color to off.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Holy moly...look @ that...'Suicide Squat' on 4K Blu-ray to evaluate the player!
The worst 4K BR title ever. IMO ...Unless you're a hard-core fan and that your display is specifically calibrated for this title. Even the 3D version cannot make for this fiasco. IMO

* 'Nocturnal Animals' is not bad. ...On Blu. IMO ...But it's no 'Last of the Mohicans' either. ...Way of speech.

P.S. I like your new avatar John; it's really you.

Any player can make super-shiny eye candy zing off the screen, it's the lesser titles and torture tests that show what a player is really made of.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Minimejer05

Which of the 3/4 sets of numbers on the side of the box is the serial number? And has everyone been rolling with the auto settings? I know on the Samsung it was suggested to switch colors to "Dynamic" mode.

To be fair many others like myself thought dynamic mode looked terrible.

[Minimejer05]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

As far as Auto settings, make sure BD Audio Mix is off and I'd prob set Deep Color to off.

Thanks! What exactly does Deep Color do? I feel like most of these settings are marketing ploys and rarely enhance the picture.

[HeatEquation]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Rtings and other reviews updated to show my set accepts a 10-bit signal and displays a 2020 gradient just fine. I don't know the tech ins and outs of such things, but I know that means I would like a player that sends that signal to at least compare.

You're confusing two different things.

You're right about the TV being able to display 10 bit gradients fine. Rtings did update that part of their review:

Update 10/26/2016: Our original test was showing 8 bit gradations due to incorrect drivers on our system. After some correction to our test apparatus, we have retested the color depth and found that it is able to display a 10 bit gradient smoothly.

However, here is what they say about the color gamut.

Wide Color Gamut : No

DCI P3 xy : 77.23 %
DCI P3 uv : 85.22 %

Rec 2020 xy : 54.74 %
Rec 2020 uv : 60.72 %


The range of colors the Samsung TV can display is only good enough for Rec. 709 content. Sending an HDR signal or settings the color space to native will not give you a wider color gamut.

http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ku6300

I remember people discussing the TV's color coverage in gaming subreddits and this was brought up often.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Any player can make super-shiny eye candy zing off the screen, it's the lesser titles and torture tests that show what a player is really made of.

I think the 4K display needs to be bright enough, especially for HDR.
The source is not important (they all reproduce a similar image video, depending of the video processor), the display is more. IMO
...And of course the 4K BR transfer.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by HeatEquation

I remember people discussing the TV's color coverage in gaming subreddits and this was brought up often.

My understanding of all that was that while it might not technically offer a WCG it does present the signal in a virtually indistinguishable way. That's what I remember reading during my extensive research during the return period anyway, when I was deciding whether to confront the wife with a return request or not. I could be wrong though, and I don't want to go back and re-read everything, so oh well!

I definitely noticed a color difference with the Samsung outputting its signal, but maybe that was conversion? In any event it sounds like the Panny won't send me a 2020 signal either, so maybe I might as well get this player. Hrmph.

[movielover1069]

When playing a 4K Blu-ray in this machine with the HDR setting turned to Auto, the picture is all washed out with no contrast and dull colors, but if I turn it off the difference is amazing. The picture is absolutely beautiful. Anyone else experiencing this?

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by movielover1069

When playing a 4K Blu-ray in this machine with the HDR setting turned to Auto, the picture is all washed out with no contrast and dull colors, but if I turn it off the difference is amazing. The picture is absolutely beautiful. Anyone else experiencing this?

You might not have the best HDR TV, like moi, so HDR doesn't look how it should. Washed out is a good term for it. What TV do you have?

[elwaylite]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

You might not have the best HDR TV, like moi, so HDR doesn't look how it should. Washed out is a good term for it. What TV do you have?

Yup. My 2015 OLED was not good at all, and then people would look at you strange when you said you cut HDR off...

"What, your tv has HDR on the spec label and you don't use it? Crazy!".

[movielover1069]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

You might not have the best HDR TV, like moi, so HDR doesn't look how it should. Washed out is a good term for it. What TV do you have?

I just got the Sony XBR55X930D. Are there possibly any settings on that that I need to change?

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by movielover1069

I just got the Sony XBR55X930D. Are there possibly any settings on that that I need to change?

Rtings actually says you have the proper lumens for HDR10, so my suggestion was not your problem. Perhaps you just dislike how dark HDR is supposed to be? What kind of backlight do you use for SDR content? Are you watching in a dark room? Did you use calibrated style settings before, warm color mode, 2.2 gamma, etc.?

If you're used to a proper image and lower brightness and in a dark room then I dunno, time to play with the settings I guess.