Sony UBP-X800 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[Bladerunner5375]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Just to go back to Deadpool, they actually DID make the costume a much darker red than what the comics and/or movie promo materials would have us expect/believe, it was due to the way that the brighter shade of colour read on camera. Tim Miller wanted grittier realism rather than a pop-bubblegum comic book look, even going so far as to add grain to the final image.


The Panasonic players will give you the best SDR conversion for your TV, one that includes the wider colour gamut. I use a Panny with my own 55X9005B and it's the mutt's nuts.

Geoff, as always, thank you! You're the best.

[StingingVelvet]

I just got my code so it took around 36 hours. Not bad at all. Not a lot there I wanted other than Underworld to be honest. Might have added ASM2 but it was sold out, so I got The Shallows. I hear conflicting things about that movie's quality but it's supposed to be a great disc.

Added the Ghostbusters movies for $14 a piece. Why not.

[GShakes]

Originally Posted by Schism213

55" KS and Sony UHD here. I've had it for a week and it's been great so far. Although I've been using it to play these UHD discs that have been in stores.

Miss Peregrine, Revenant, Billy Lynn, pacific rim all looked and played fantastic. Game of Thrones blu ray upscale I thought was also an improvement.

Do you have a recommended settings for this pair? Just got the KS and picking up the Sony today.

[rodsterinfl]

Hello everyone. I am new and posting with a question on the Sony UBP-X800 on whether or not it has been determined that the player CAN be updated at a later date to Dolby Vision. I have spent about four hours scouring various forums and talked to Sony. Early on, people thought the price point would determine that update but now with LG and Philips stating their drives will be updated later to Dolby Vision and are both $299, they match the price. Any inside knowledge on this? It is the ONLY holdback for me.

[Geoff D]

Personally - and this is pure conjecture here - I think Sony are using the same MediaTek silicon as those others are/will be, so it CAN be updated to DV. But whether it WILL be updated to DV is entirely in Sony's court.

[rodsterinfl]

Thank you Geoff for responding. I have actually been sitting here waiting! If I have a tv that has dolby vision capability, would I have to have a player that had the same or would it matter?

[Geoff D]

Yes, you need DV in both the player and the display. The player needs it to be able to recognise the DV enhancement layer and output the appropriate 12-bit signal with the special sauce metadata, while the display needs it in order to properly decode and display the aforementioned signal + metadata.

[Schism213]

Originally Posted by GShakes

Do you have a recommended settings for this pair? Just got the KS and picking up the Sony today.

The Sony player has everything set to auto. I just changed the audio options to bitstream lossless.

The KS i have rtings setting for the most part. My Auto motion plus is set to Custom with borh Judder and Blur reductions set to 2. LED clear motion off.

[StingingVelvet]

The HDR on this really looks great even with my 500 nit set. I am having none of the brightness or washed out issues like I had with the Samsung. The only issue I have is elevated blacks, but I haven't even tried messing with the black levels or calibrating yet, so I don't want to complain about that yet. Hopefully I can fix that because other than that one issue this player magically makes HDR mode look great on my set. I'm getting 10bit color too I believe, since if I change to forced 8bit it looks different and less colorful.

I don't know what the difference is on my set between this and the Samsung, but something makes this work while that player did not. I wonder if they have some kind of software difference with how they handle limited nits that functions automatically. Like maybe the Sony detects my set's capabilities and adjusts things by itself. I do feel like the HDR is not as pronounced as it was on the Samsung, gut feeling, so maybe that's because it's limiting the highs to present a better overall picture somehow.

In any event after testing a half-dozen discs I can say if you have a 500 nit set or thereabout and struggle with HDR this might be a good player to try out.

[PCFan]

Can someone that has the Sony X800 tell if if the refresh rate will auto switch back to 60 Hz when exiting a movie in Vudu and Netflix. Don't just test a blu-ray. I'm mostly interested in streaming but my Roku Ultra does not support 24 Hz and with the Nvidia Shield, you have to manually switch to 24 Hz to display 24 Hz output in it's streaming apps. Some TV's have can display what refresh rate is getting output by pressing something like display or info button on the TV's remote.

[Vor4]

Originally Posted by PCFan

Can someone that has the Sony X800 tell if if the refresh rate will auto switch back to 60 Hz when exiting a movie in Vudu and Netflix. Don't just test a blu-ray. I'm mostly interested in streaming but my Roku Ultra does not support 24 Hz and with the Nvidia Shield, you have to manually switch to 24 Hz to display 24 Hz output in it's streaming apps. Some TV's have can display what refresh rate is getting output by pressing something like display or info button on the TV's remote.

The x800 will go back to 60Hz after exiting a movie fro streaming sources.
If you are going to use the X800 for mostly streaming, you'll be wasting your money. Still you haven't figured it out after replying the same response twice.

[PCFan]

That's why I'm asking, because I don't want to end up wasting my money. Finally I got the answer I was looking for which is it will return back to 60 Hz after exiting a movie from streaming services, and not just blu-rays. I just want a better streamer than my Roku Ultra that has the least issues when streaming and if it means buying a UHD disc player then so be it. I'm getting chirping sounds in Netflix and Vudu in my Roku Ultra which I heard is a firmware issue from what I read in the Roku forum.

[mzupeman]

Originally Posted by PCFan

That's why I'm asking, because I don't want to end up wasting my money. Finally I got the answer I was looking for which is it will return back to 60 Hz after exiting a movie from streaming services, and not just blu-rays. I just want a better streamer than my Roku Ultra that has the least issues when streaming and if it means buying a UHD disc player then so be it. I'm getting chirping sounds in Netflix and Vudu in my Roku Ultra which I heard is a firmware issue from what I read in the Roku forum.

Then Roku will likely fix that in a future update.

This is not a better streaming device than a Roku Ultra.

[elwaylite]

Originally Posted by mzupeman

Then Roku will likely fix that in a future update.

This is not a better streaming device than a Roku Ultra.

When it comes to strictly Netflix and Amazon, it IS better.

I bought the Ultra and a Premier on release, and they were buggy pieces of shit up until I stopped using them in January. Roku, just like Oppo, has lost my business for awhile. I buy a lot of gear every year, and some companies are getting too comfortable releasing shit products that aren't ready for prime time.

[anavrin0901]

Originally Posted by movielover1069

I don't know what to tell you then. They pulled up my settings on my TV from their end, checked everything, made sure the input was on Enhanced, did a diagnostic check of the Blu-ray player and that's what they told me. Maybe the pass-thru on your soundbar actually does make a difference somehow because you're X800 isn't directly connected to your TV.

I have the same exact setup as you do with HDMI 1 of player going directly to 930D enhanced HDMI and I don't have the issues you speak of and HDR is enabled on both player and TV. When I put in a 4K that doe snot have HDR it goes into 4K SDR mode. No issues like you speak of.

[movielover1069]

Originally Posted by anavrin0901

I have the same exact setup as you do with HDMI 1 of player going directly to 930D enhanced HDMI and I don't have the issues you speak of and HDR is enabled on both player and TV. When I put in a 4K that doe snot have HDR it goes into 4K SDR mode. No issues like you speak of.

What do you have the HDR setting on, Auto or Off?

[movielover1069]

Also, what Picture Mode do you have the 930D TV on, HDR Video, Custom, Vivid, Standard, or Cinema Pro?

[anavrin0901]

Originally Posted by movielover1069

Also, what Picture Mode do you have the 930D TV on, HDR Video, Custom, Vivid, Standard, or Cinema Pro?

Auto on player and Custom on TV. You never want that HDR video setting. It messes it up big time.

[movielover1069]

Originally Posted by anavrin0901

Auto on player and Custom on TV. You never want that HDR video setting. It messes it up big time.

Yes but, if you keep the HDR setting on Auto on the player and then play a 4K UltraHD Blu-ray with HDR, it automatically switches the Picture Mode on the TV to HDR Video and, like you said, it messes everything up big time and once the movie is playing, you can't change the Picture Mode back to Custom. That's what's so frustrating. However if you turn the HDR off on the player you can change the Picture Mode on the TV back to Custom which is so much better than that horrible HDR Video setting.

[anavrin0901]

Originally Posted by movielover1069

Yes but, if you keep the HDR setting on Auto on the player and then play a 4K UltraHD Blu-ray with HDR, it automatically switches the Picture Mode on the TV to HDR Video and, like you said, it messes everything up big time and once the movie is playing, you can't change the Picture Mode back to Custom. That's what's so frustrating.

Hmmm...let me play with that tomorrow now you have me curious. So when you play a regular Blu-ray or SDR 4K disc like Bad Santa 2 does it switch back to Custom on your 930D? Honestly everything about the 930D is frustrating, but the picture is oh so beautiful.