Law Abiding Citizen 4K UHD (2009) - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

tcripe · 11-06-2018, 09:01 PM

Review is up!

Pieter V · 11-07-2018, 09:26 PM

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DISC INFO:

Disc Size: 75,861,064,858 bytes
Protection: AACS2
BD-Java: Yes
Extras: Ultra HD
BDInfo: 0.5.8.7

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00802.MPLS
Length: 1:49:16.841 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 67,600,748,544 bytes
Total Bitrate: 82.48 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
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MPEG-H HEVC Video 64256 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 Profile 5.1 High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / HDR / BT.2020 /
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 7742 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 Profile 5.1 High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020 /

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
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Dolby Atmos/TrueHD Audio English 4826 kbps 7.1-Atmos / 48 kHz / 4826 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio French 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 35.685 kbps
Presentation Graphics English 38.778 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 34.705 kbps

wxman2003 · 11-10-2018, 06:40 AM

Watched it tonight, and there was some improvement over BD, but not a whole lot. In fact, watching it in DV had more black crush compared to the BD, and also more crush than the HDR10 version when forcing my OPPO 203 to play it as HDR10. In the end, I preferred watching the BD version on my OPPO 103D due to the lack of black crush.

StingingVelvet · 11-10-2018, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wxman2003

Watched it tonight, and there was some improvement over BD, but not a whole lot. In fact, watching it in DV had more black crush compared to the BD, and also more crush than the HDR10 version when forcing my OPPO 203 to play it as HDR10. In the end, I preferred watching the BD version on my OPPO 103D due to the lack of black crush.

Not saying I know either way as I haven't seen it, but some of those lost details might not have been meant to be seen? There are other UHDs like The Expendables or I Am Legend where a lot of detail is lost to black but people generally agree the BDs were raising black too much and revealing stuff never meant to be seen.

ivo123 · 11-11-2018, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzo

I really enjoyed this movie. But I prefer the Director's Cut. Too bad it's not in 4K, I would buy it.

I'm curious why some of the extended/director's cut of movies don't get the 4K transfer?

im really pissed right now !! i was sooo happy that it supposed to have UNRATED cut , but now i finding out that its on only on BD

this is a nightmare

wxman2003 · 11-11-2018, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Not saying I know either way as I haven't seen it, but some of those lost details might not have been meant to be seen? There are other UHDs like The Expendables or I Am Legend where a lot of detail is lost to black but people generally agree the BDs were raising black too much and revealing stuff never meant to be seen.

That's a valid point. 99% of the time I prefer HDR over SDR. It also could be the fact that DV can not be calibrated on my E6, and the tv is doing the crushing in the near black. Nothing I can do about that. If I raise the brightness 1 click, the black bars become elevated.

StingingVelvet · 11-11-2018, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzo

I'm curious why some of the extended/director's cut of movies don't get the 4K transfer?

Often times extended cuts are finished at a lower resolution, which makes them look worse on a future format. Other times the studios just want to hold them for a future double-dip. There are probably other times where the movie just isn't considered worth the effort. Hard to say which is which really.

Pieter V · 11-13-2018, 10:57 AM

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=12583&d2=12582&c=4941

barrett75 · 11-13-2018, 04:20 PM

solely judging by caps i must say i prefer BD over UHD on this...

Colson · 11-13-2018, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett75

solely judging by caps

Ben_UK · 11-13-2018, 07:24 PM

Garbage.

Brian81 · 11-14-2018, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pieter V

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=12583&d2=12582&c=4941

Caps a Holic was a weird one here. I didn't look at which was which, and was convinced the BD was the UHD! The BD looks better on these. I looked at 3 different caps where I would think the UHD would look better.

jrcorwin3 · 11-14-2018, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Pieter V

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=12583&d2=12582&c=4941

More useless caps....

Brian81 · 11-14-2018, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jrcorwin3

More useless caps....

So what is more useful? Someone's words?

wxman2003 · 11-14-2018, 02:53 AM

I watched both. IMO, the UHD is not a significant improvement over the BD. Better yes, but not a lot.

Brahmzy · 11-14-2018, 11:52 AM

Source must be fairly soft - those screen caps are almost identical as far as sharpness/detail. Color / contrast is better on the UHD...
Not much of an upgrade. Gotta be the source, or a botch job.

lgans316 · 11-14-2018, 12:07 PM

Lionsgate are known to applying some sort of high frequency filtering on select titles:

1. 3:10
2. Dredd
3. Source Code

Maybe they did on this as well.

ROSS.T.G. · 11-14-2018, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lgans316

Lionsgate are known to applying some sort of high frequency filtering on select titles:

1. 3:10
2. Dredd
3. Source Code

Maybe they did on this as well.

Nonsense. They aren't known for that. 2 are very early releases and Source Code looks excellent for the most part. They have been doing a very good job, much better than what they did with their BD catalogue in the beginning.

StingingVelvet · 11-14-2018, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian81

So what is more useful? Someone's words?

Caps can be useful but are inherently flawed for numerous reasons, SDR conversion being the most obvious one. I do trust certain forum members' words more than I trust caps.

trekky76 · 11-15-2018, 02:52 AM

Never seen this one before but I liked this one. So rare nowdays to find a decent R rated movie. Guess they don't make them like that anymore.
Decent transfer. Just don't think this one was ever meant to be a stunner visually.
Grain is well resolved for the most part. Good black levels. It's quite a desaturated look in this one so not much in terms of great colors. No reason not to upgrade if the price is right.

11-06-2018, 09:01 PM	#41
tcripe Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jul 2018 Location:Seattle	Review is up!

11-10-2018, 06:40 AM	#43
wxman2003 Expert Member Member since:Jun 2016	Watched it tonight, and there was some improvement over BD, but not a whole lot. In fact, watching it in DV had more black crush compared to the BD, and also more crush than the HDR10 version when forcing my OPPO 203 to play it as HDR10. In the end, I preferred watching the BD version on my OPPO 103D due to the lack of black crush.

11-13-2018, 10:57 AM	#48
Pieter V Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:14	https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=12583&d2=12582&c=4941

11-13-2018, 04:20 PM	#49
barrett75 Special Member Member since:Feb 2014 Location:Italy	solely judging by caps i must say i prefer BD over UHD on this...

11-13-2018, 07:24 PM	#51
Ben_UK Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2011 Location:Birmingham, UK 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:226 Blu-ray reviews:4	Garbage.

11-14-2018, 02:53 AM	#55
wxman2003 Expert Member Member since:Jun 2016	I watched both. IMO, the UHD is not a significant improvement over the BD. Better yes, but not a lot.

11-14-2018, 11:52 AM	#56
Brahmzy Senior Member Member since:Dec 2014 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- iTunes collection:- Trading Score:28	Source must be fairly soft - those screen caps are almost identical as far as sharpness/detail. Color / contrast is better on the UHD... Not much of an upgrade. Gotta be the source, or a botch job.

11-14-2018, 12:07 PM	#57
lgans316 Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Location:RM16, United Kingdom Blu-ray reviews:17 Trading Score:498	Lionsgate are known to applying some sort of high frequency filtering on select titles: 1. 3:10 2. Dredd 3. Source Code Maybe they did on this as well.

11-15-2018, 02:52 AM	#60
trekky76 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Sep 2014 Location:Stockholm 4K collection:917 Blu-ray collection:1324 DVD collection:4 Digital collection:7 Blu-ray reviews:16 Trading Score:42	Never seen this one before but I liked this one. So rare nowdays to find a decent R rated movie. Guess they don't make them like that anymore. Decent transfer. Just don't think this one was ever meant to be a stunner visually. Grain is well resolved for the most part. Good black levels. It's quite a desaturated look in this one so not much in terms of great colors. No reason not to upgrade if the price is right.

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