The Hunt for Red October 4K UHD (1990)

[Eye Candy]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

I’ve had a few purchases missing the code sheet. I contacted the studio and they sent me a code after I sent photos and proof of purchase.

I went to the Paramount support site https://support.paramountdigitalcopy...s/requests/new and submitted a "request" online, where I included pictures of the package and a picture of the receipt from Amazon. That was simple and straight forward.

[Braktastic]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

When I watched this on my Sony teevee in deevee it was with an OPPO 203, I'll have to try it with the Panny 820 and see what happens.

I'm curious to hear your report. I stumbled onto this thread today, and it got me concerned. So I tried watching the helicopter scene in The Godfather Part III were Michael is talking to Vincent. I noticed more black crush using my Panasonic DP-UB820 than I did my Oppo UDP-203 when displaying in on my LG OLED65E6P.

[NeilZ]

Originally Posted by Braktastic

I'm curious to hear your report. I stumbled onto this thread today, and it got me concerned. So I tried watching the helicopter scene in The Godfather Part III were Michael is talking to Vincent. I noticed more black crush using my Panasonic DP-UB820 than I did my Oppo UDP-203 when displaying in on my LG OLED65E6P.

That's an early Dolby Vision TV and those early Dolby Vision tv's did have mediocre handling of the format, and again that's a player led model (the tv leaves the work to the player, which does not know the exact specifications of the display). So from my understanding what's happening is the 820 is not doing as good a job processing the video as the Oppo. This shouldn't be a problem with TV models that don't rely on the player to process the information (TV led DV).

[anephric]

Yes, the problem seems well known, reading the 820 thread. Which is a problem for me, because I'm not in the market for buying another TV for a good few years (I kept my plasma rocking until I went with the XH95) so I'm not going to invest in any better-implemented TV-led DV for a while. I need a player that does it well, and looking around it seems slim pickings for a good all-rounder. Everything seems to be weak in some area.

[Braktastic]

NeilZ and anephric, thank you both! I had thought I had read that the Panasonic DP-UB820 handled DV better than the Oppo UDP-203. Perhaps it did at one time? Anyway, not now apparently. Glad I held onto the 203 as a media file player. I guess I will go back to using it as my primary as I won't be in the market for a new display either for a while.

[NeilZ]

Originally Posted by Braktastic

NeilZ and anephric, thank you both! I had thought I had read that the Panasonic DP-UB820 handled DV better than the Oppo UDP-203. Perhaps it did at one time? Anyway, not now apparently. Glad I held onto the 203 as a media file player. I guess I will go back to using it as my primary as I won't be in the market for a new display either for a while.

I don’t know if it was ever better than the Oppo at DV, but thanks to the optimizer it can be a bit better than the Oppo with HDR10 depending on your display, from what I’ve read anyway.

Just keep in mind this DV issue on the 820 is a non issue for all newer TV’s.

It’s really frustrating it took manufacturers so long to get the technology right, at first many HDR TV’s didn’t even have DV at all, and then when they did implement DV it was done in a half assed way.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Braktastic

I'm curious to hear your report. I stumbled onto this thread today, and it got me concerned. So I tried watching the helicopter scene in The Godfather Part III were Michael is talking to Vincent. I noticed more black crush using my Panasonic DP-UB820 than I did my Oppo UDP-203 when displaying in on my LG OLED65E6P.

I checked Red Oktober last night (ended up watching like 40 minutes before I realised I really really really needed to go to bed at almost 6 in the morning) and the underwater scenes looked great on the Panny 820, no moving patterns of "crush" at all. In fact, it actually looked BETTER than it did on the OPPO https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...7#post15478397, less banding (and less backlight blobbing on the TV, for that matter).

In the interests of full disclosure: My Sony ZD9 TV is using the player-led low latency DV mode and doesn't have bright/dark viewing modes, it just has a single DV viewing mode which if I had to guess was closer to DV Dark. I don't run Dolby Vision on the Sony at the default black level of 50 because of the notorious greybar problem where the letterbox bars (and by extension any scenes with 'true black') don't dim down to off, they remain lit. Setting the DV black level to 49 - one click only, please - renders the correct 'off' state and has a minimal effect on near-black detail as the control is so granular.

I've seen myself how differently the OPPO and the Panny render extreme (>4000 nits, say) highlight detail in DV using the exact same settings on the TV, with the OPPO holding more, though not all, of the highlights while the Panny seems brighter but starts to clip earlier. I never figured there was a difference in black levels but this thread got me all intrigued, so I popped in a black clipping DV test pattern (running from a disc, not a USB, so going through the same electronic pathways as any other disc) and you know what? The Panny actually lets through MORE lowlight information while the OPPO clips a few bars of it. So I've got one player that does better highlights but worse blacks, while the other nobbles the extreme highlights but improves the blacks which is the complete opposite of what other folks have been describing with that same player. Dolby Vision is so ****ed up

To that end it makes me trepidatious as to how DV is gonna be when I finally replace the ZD9. Trouble is, there are several titles that to me are literally unwatchable without the intervention of the FEL rebuilding a terrible base layer encode, so for me it will never be as simple as "just turn off DV and let the TV or the Optimiser* do it".

*which has its own issues with banding e.g. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...5#post19744035

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After submitting my request to Paramount for the digital code (that was missing) on March 23rd, I received the replacement code two days later on the 25th.

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