Hannibal 4K UHD (2001)

[1234567?]

Ordered from Amazon, say's arriving Fri along with other goodies. I was getting worried thinking lengthy delay on this. Glad to hear it's a nice release, love this film.

[Rustam15]

Watched 10 minutes of each disc back and forth. Many of you are too kind. The black crush is absurd!
Intro scene with Barney & Verger, that’s entire back shelf of books in shadow, along with the be intricate gate design of the 2nd floor, and the fireplace mantle as Verger gets his “cookie”.
In the van, “how can she sleep at a time like this?” Half his face is gone in shadow. As the truck pulls up for the warehouse, the officers in uniform? What uniform it’s all black.
I’m desperately trying to understand how there can be such a dramatic difference in lighting on each disc. Before any of you come at me with TV setting, review the discs and decide if you’re actually being honest with yourself about the black crush.
I am so god damned disappointed.

The BD is an improvement over previous releases though.

[XavierTheaterPotato]

Originally Posted by willo007

Yep, the slipcover was protected!

BB also has a clean way of packaging. The Slipcover ain't going to be damaged unless it's crushed on top of it.

[happydood]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Westerns aren't remotely my cup of tea...and Clint Eastwood is even worse.

Folks sure do say a lot of things without shame, these days.

[shinobipopcorn]

Originally Posted by XavierTheaterPotato

BB also has a clean way of packaging. The Slipcover ain't going to be damaged unless it's crushed on top of it.

Mine came from amazon so I have the standard crushed corners.

[Infernal King]

Originally Posted by happydood

Folks sure do say a lot of things without shame, these days.

I don't think it's fair to dunk on someone just because they're not a fan of Westerns or Clint Eastwood, but this forum suffers from groupthink as much as any.

I'm not the biggest fan of "traditional" Westerns (I like mine with a twist or genre-mixed), and I don't care about Eastwood one way or the other, but Sergio Leone's spaghetti westerns are among the best in cinema history. His formalism alone is to die for.

That said, Once Upon a Time in the West > the Dollars trilogy

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

Ironically that's the only movie of his that I own and enjoy. He's a miserable old man (which is how I've always viewed him) and he dies.

[gates70]

Originally Posted by Rustam15

Watched 10 minutes of each disc back and forth. Many of you are too kind. The black crush is absurd!
Intro scene with Barney & Verger, that’s entire back shelf of books in shadow, along with the be intricate gate design of the 2nd floor, and the fireplace mantle as Verger gets his “cookie”.
In the van, “how can she sleep at a time like this?” Half his face is gone in shadow. As the truck pulls up for the warehouse, the officers in uniform? What uniform it’s all black.
I’m desperately trying to understand how there can be such a dramatic difference in lighting on each disc. Before any of you come at me with TV setting, review the discs and decide if you’re actually being honest with yourself about the black crush.
I am so god damned disappointed.

The BD is an improvement over previous releases though.

Well I'll come at you with your TV because you're the first to report this. I saw none of this at all.

[Matt89]

Originally Posted by Rustam15

Watched 10 minutes of each disc back and forth. Many of you are too kind. The black crush is absurd!
Intro scene with Barney & Verger, that’s entire back shelf of books in shadow, along with the be intricate gate design of the 2nd floor, and the fireplace mantle as Verger gets his “cookie”.
In the van, “how can she sleep at a time like this?” Half his face is gone in shadow. As the truck pulls up for the warehouse, the officers in uniform? What uniform it’s all black.
I’m desperately trying to understand how there can be such a dramatic difference in lighting on each disc. Before any of you come at me with TV setting, review the discs and decide if you’re actually being honest with yourself about the black crush.
I am so god damned disappointed.

The BD is an improvement over previous releases though.

I could see detail in those scenes. I think the issue is your settings or your TV (or a combination of both).

There's no black crush. And if there is, it's extremely (and I mean extremely) minimal. They didn't overdo it with the HDR on this one, it looks like it was very carefully graded.

Man those shots of Verger's house shrouded in mist are actually spectacular.

It's your TV. You've even made that a point in one of your recent posts:

Originally Posted by Rustam15

I have 80+ 4K titles, and apparnely a lousy LED 4K tv (the picture is almost always too dim). Had I done my research, I would have spent more for the quality. That being said, only a handful of titles stand out from the 4K collection, otherwise 1080p is just fine if sometimes not better.

If only a handful of titles in 4K stand out, it's most DEFINITELY your TV.

~Matt

[James_Younger_Gang]

I read reviews on amazon that say that the 4k uhd is defective, and that it didn't work. Has anyone here had playback issues with the hannibal 4k?

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by James_Younger_Gang

Has anyone here had playback issues with the hannibal 4k?

[Pieter V]

DISC INFO:

Disc Size: 84,160,929,092 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD
BDInfo: 0.7.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00000.MPLS
Length: 2:11:26.250 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 83,574,159,360 bytes
Total Bitrate: 84.78 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 67499 kbps 2160p / 24 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020 /
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 7233 kbps 1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020 /

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 3652 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3652 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio English 2057 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2057 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 34.828 kbps

[Matt89]

Yeah, when I was watching this yesterday I had the "Display" option turned on to check out the bitrate and it was often hitting the 80-90 Mbps range. Impressive.

As Gary Tooze would say, "MAX'D OUT BITRATE".

He'd be correct this time.

~Matt

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Matt89

Yeah, when I was watching this yesterday I had the "Display" option turned on to check out the bitrate and it was often hitting the 80-90 Mbps range. Impressive.

As Gary Tooze would say, "MAX'D OUT BITRATE"

He'd be correct this time.

~Matt

Lol, haven't checked his site in ages. Do Momitsu even do a 4K UHD player?

(You'd be surprised at how many discs hit way higher than that though, Little Mermaid jumped into the 150+ Mb/s range at one point on my Panasonic player's readout!)

[SleazyForWeasley]

Originally Posted by Braktastic

Robert Harris continues to confound me. Clearly, he is very knowledgeable about film, yet continually he proves to be completely worthless as a reviewer. It's really quite something.

And WTF is with that huge font?

[Matt89]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Lol, haven't checked his site in ages. Do Momitsu even do a 4K UHD player?

(You'd be surprised at how many discs hit way higher than that though, Little Mermaid jumped into the 150+ Mb/s range at one point on my Panasonic player's readout!)

LOL he has an Oppo, apparently.

(And wow crazy about TLM, I didn't check out the info on that one while watching it. I'm curious to take a look now haha.)

~Matt

[Oarsman05]

Originally Posted by XavierTheaterPotato

BB also has a clean way of packaging. The Slipcover ain't going to be damaged unless it's crushed on top of it.

I was worried when the cashier quickly scribbled her initials on the sticker, but luckily she did it lightly and I don't have her autograph on the slipcover. I usually ask them not to do that but she did it so quickly I didn't have a chance!

[Braktastic]

Originally Posted by Rustam15

Watched 10 minutes of each disc back and forth. Many of you are too kind. The black crush is absurd!
Intro scene with Barney & Verger, that’s entire back shelf of books in shadow, along with the be intricate gate design of the 2nd floor, and the fireplace mantle as Verger gets his “cookie”.
In the van, “how can she sleep at a time like this?” Half his face is gone in shadow. As the truck pulls up for the warehouse, the officers in uniform? What uniform it’s all black.
I’m desperately trying to understand how there can be such a dramatic difference in lighting on each disc. Before any of you come at me with TV setting, review the discs and decide if you’re actually being honest with yourself about the black crush.
I am so god damned disappointed.

The BD is an improvement over previous releases though.

I thought I saw that. Good to know I'm not crazy. My only complaint with this disc assuming it is not inherent in the source and the contrasty look was the director's intention.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Rustam15

Watched 10 minutes of each disc back and forth. Many of you are too kind. The black crush is absurd!
Intro scene with Barney & Verger, that’s entire back shelf of books in shadow, along with the be intricate gate design of the 2nd floor, and the fireplace mantle as Verger gets his “cookie”.
In the van, “how can she sleep at a time like this?” Half his face is gone in shadow. As the truck pulls up for the warehouse, the officers in uniform? What uniform it’s all black.

Stronger shadows/lower contrast =/= black crush.

While there may be black crush on this disc (I don't know- I haven't seen it), nothing that you're describing here is necessarily black crush at all.

[ROSS.T.G.]

Originally Posted by Oarsman05

I was worried when the cashier quickly scribbled her initials on the sticker, but luckily she did it lightly and I don't have her autograph on the slipcover. I usually ask them not to do that but she did it so quickly I didn't have a chance!

Cashiers can be savages.