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Old 12-01-2020, 10:49 AM   #7001
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Steel in stock on HMV

After I'd just got a store credit refund from my scratched one and they don't let you use gift cards on the site??? Arrghhhh

I've reordered anyway.

https://store.hmv.com/store/film-tv/...ook-collection
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Old 12-01-2020, 10:53 AM   #7002
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DNR'd 2K upscales, hot ****ing garbage. Will be saving me money.
Yes, but the colors are great, and shadow detail is not crushed.
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:03 AM   #7003
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Interesting. So I ordered mine on line from JB-Hi Fi in Oz to take advantage of the Black Friday sales as I couldn’t get to a store. Noticed nothing shipped yesterday. Saw it on the shelves in a JB Hi Fi store yesterday for a much inflated price.

Then just now got an email advising there was stock issues and I wont get mine until mid December. Does make you wonder if there is an issue with the product.

I’m in no rush. I am actually awaiting two Atmos speakers to arrive before watching them so am happy to be patient.
I noticed this too. Disappointing since I expected to get it tomorrow from in-store pickup method. And I'm itching to see it. There usually is no issue with JB. Gonna have to take matters into my own hands on this one *wink 'n' a nod*

Knowing I will get in due time, whenever it comes, at the current sale price (I'll hold them to it); despite this undoubted issue with product stock.

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DNR'd 2K upscales, hot ****ing garbage. Will be saving me money.
Spurious claim alert...
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:13 AM   #7004
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Yes, but the colors are great, and shadow detail is not crushed.
No
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:18 AM   #7005
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You can see FOTR on this page and TT on the following page and how they compare to the blu ray tracks. FOTR isn't much different, but again still drops off a cliff at 30hz. TT definitely extended a bit better on blu and again drops off a cliff at 30hz.

Fellowship bass is certainly LOUD down to that 30hz so it is thunderous up to that point just not deep.


https://www.avsforum.com/threads/the...63785/page-977

The BEQ versions look really good if you are setup for that which I'm not, but this might be my final motivating factor to grab a mini dsp and get BEQ going.
Know anywhere there is a DVD dts:es comparison?
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:36 AM   #7006
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Two Towers EE

Disc 1:
Quote:
DISC INFO:
Disc Size: 72,602,968,915 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo: 0.7.5.9

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00803.MPLS
Length: 1:46:39.184 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 70,767,261,696 bytes
Total Bitrate: 88.47 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 64757 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 4000nits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 2098 kbps (3.14%) 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 4000nits / Dolby Vision FEL / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio English 3537 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 3089 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 448 kbps)
DTS-HD Master Audio French 2235 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2235 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio German 2413 kbps 6.1 / 48 kHz / 2413 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 6.1-ES / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio Italian 2529 kbps 6.1 / 48 kHz / 2529 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 6.1-ES / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio Spanish 2202 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2202 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1-ES / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio Japanese 2489 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2489 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 24.065 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 21.894 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 28.623 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 24.134 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 22.189 kbps
Presentation Graphics Dutch 22.807 kbps
Presentation Graphics Chinese 19.492 kbps
Presentation Graphics Chinese 17.991 kbps
Presentation Graphics Korean 18.149 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 22.863 kbps
Presentation Graphics Czech 20.041 kbps
Presentation Graphics Danish 20.435 kbps
Presentation Graphics Finnish 20.997 kbps
Presentation Graphics Greek 24.08 kbps
Presentation Graphics Norwegian 20.351 kbps
Presentation Graphics Polish 19.623 kbps
Presentation Graphics Swedish 21.556 kbps
Presentation Graphics Thai 20.473 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 0.087 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 0.105 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 0.036 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 0.046 kbps
Presentation Graphics Japanese 20.404 kbps
Presentation Graphics Japanese 0.071 kbps
Disc 2:
Quote:
Disc Size: 78,687,207,119 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo: 0.7.5.9

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00803.MPLS
Length: 2:08:52.933 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 76,839,899,136 bytes
Total Bitrate: 79.49 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 56277 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 4000nits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 2096 kbps (3.59%) 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 4000nits / Dolby Vision FEL / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio English 3480 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 3032 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 448 kbps)
DTS-HD Master Audio French 2272 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2272 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio German 2471 kbps 6.1 / 48 kHz / 2471 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 6.1-ES / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio Italian 2584 kbps 6.1 / 48 kHz / 2584 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 6.1-ES / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio Spanish 2250 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2250 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1-ES / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio Japanese 2258 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2258 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 18.276 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 16.63 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 22.642 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 19.371 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 17.31 kbps
Presentation Graphics Dutch 17.619 kbps
Presentation Graphics Chinese 15.02 kbps
Presentation Graphics Chinese 14.242 kbps
Presentation Graphics Korean 14.151 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 17.835 kbps
Presentation Graphics Czech 15.513 kbps
Presentation Graphics Danish 15.31 kbps
Presentation Graphics Finnish 16.092 kbps
Presentation Graphics Greek 19.097 kbps
Presentation Graphics Norwegian 15.389 kbps
Presentation Graphics Polish 15.207 kbps
Presentation Graphics Swedish 16.344 kbps
Presentation Graphics Thai 15.745 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 0.775 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 0.954 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 0.844 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 0.816 kbps
Presentation Graphics Japanese 16.047 kbps
Presentation Graphics Japanese 1.752 kbps
Subtitles for Elvish languages are 4K rendered.
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:38 AM   #7007
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Hmm can't decide if I'm going to keep the LOTR 4k steelbook collection or Gift Set edition...
I'm also getting the Hobbit 4k steelbook collection.
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:40 AM   #7008
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Hmm can't decide if I'm going to keep the LOTR 4k steelbook collection or Gift Set edition...
I'm also getting the Hobbit 4k steelbook collection.
Just buy both.
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:44 AM   #7009
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Two Towers EE

Disc 1:


Disc 2:


Subtitles for Elvish languages are 4K rendered.
Note that the "FEL" Dobly layers are the usual 2 Mb/s jobbies, if there's any extension data in those streams I'd be verr surprised. Weird that bdinfo keeps reporting them as such. FEL in name only...
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:47 AM   #7010
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Note that the "FEL" Dobly layers are the usual 2 Mb/s jobbies, if there's any extension data in those streams I'd be verr surprised. Weird that bdinfo keeps reporting them as such. FEL in name only...
What is the bitrate of normal FELs? 2mbps seems like it could certainly be enough to do some extension from 10 to 12bit. Doesn't take much to do just that, as the code values will already be very close to correct at 10bit as it is.
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:55 AM   #7011
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What is the bitrate of normal FELs? 2mbps seems like it could certainly be enough to do some extension from 10 to 12bit. Doesn't take much to do just that, as the code values will already be very close to correct at 10bit as it is.
Typically anywhere between 5 and 15% of the main bitrate which fluctuates as any VBR encode would do, whereas these 2 Mb/s layers are at a fixed constant bitrate which suggests no adaptive properties. But it's not just the bitrate itself, it's that people have checked these supposed 'FEL' layers on other movies and they are empty streams with no extension data contained therein, i.e. not FEL after all.

Not making it up, see post (and indeed the thread) below of two of Warners' supposed 'FEL' encodes in action. Blankety blank, Blankety blank

Quote:
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Good idea to check since normally we expect MEL to be like 0.5mbps max...
I didn't see anything in these layers that would need decoded. They behave the same, a constant 2mbps bit rate during playback.

2001: A Space Odyssey
[Show spoiler]

Disc Title: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Disc Size: 86,085,165,634 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00089.MPLS
Length: 2:28:49.253 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 85,140,191,232 bytes
Total Bitrate: 76.28 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 62181 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 2093 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020


Aquaman
[Show spoiler]

Disc Title: Aquaman
Disc Size: 89,152,582,058 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00089.MPLS
Length: 2:23:19.382 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 88,117,733,376 bytes
Total Bitrate: 81.98 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 52701 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 2093 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:58 AM   #7012
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Whereas actual FEL layers contain video information e.g.

Quote:
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Hey chief, checked a couple for ya.

Spartacus - FEL 4.487mbps
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Disc Title: Spartacus
Disc Size: 91,891,456,040 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00800.MPLS
Length: 3:16:38.036 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 82,615,542,144 bytes
Total Bitrate: 56.02 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 39735 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 4487 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS:X Master Audio English 5965 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 5965 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS Audio Spanish 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Japanese 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Japanese 448 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Portuguese 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 29.308 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 28.523 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 27.107 kbps
Presentation Graphics Japanese 19.324 kbps
Presentation Graphics Portuguese 27.680 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 0.032 kbps
Presentation Graphics Japanese 0.010 kbps
Presentation Graphics Japanese 1.560 kbps
Presentation Graphics Portuguese 0.047 kbps


Jaws - FEL 5.570mbps
[Show spoiler]
Disc Title: Jaws
Disc Size: 99,568,014,067 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00040.MPLS
Length: 2:03:56.345 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 84,809,447,424 bytes
Total Bitrate: 91.24 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 70797 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 5570 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS Audio English 448 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / 24-bit
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio English 4157 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 3709 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -27dB)
DTS Audio French 448 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / 24-bit
DTS-HD High-Res Audio French 2046 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 2046 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS Audio Italian 448 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Italian 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Czech 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 38.742 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 28.832 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 28.273 kbps
Presentation Graphics Dutch 30.083 kbps
Presentation Graphics Danish 30.818 kbps
Presentation Graphics Finnish 30.723 kbps
Presentation Graphics Norwegian 28.023 kbps
Presentation Graphics Swedish 28.342 kbps
Presentation Graphics Czech 27.566 kbps
Presentation Graphics Greek 33.603 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 0.327 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 0.389 kbps
Presentation Graphics Czech 0.433 kbps


The Princess Bride - FEL 4.343mbps
[Show spoiler]
Disc Title: The Princess Bride
Disc Size: 56,119,882,708 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 01004.MPLS
Length: 1:38:26.609 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 52,818,700,992 bytes
Total Bitrate: 71.54 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 57900 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 4343 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio German 1808 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1808 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1152 kbps / 16-bit / DN -4dB)
DTS-HD Master Audio German 960 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 960 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 16-bit / DN -4dB)
DTS-HD Master Audio English 1733 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1733 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1152 kbps / 16-bit / DN -4dB)
DTS-HD Master Audio English 978 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 978 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 16-bit / DN -4dB)

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics German 45.356 kbps
Presentation Graphics English 43.522 kbps


Top Gun- FEL 4.785mbps
[Show spoiler]
Disc Title: Top Gun
Disc Size: 66,272,938,687 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00222.MPLS
Length: 1:49:26.810 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 59,225,991,168 bytes
Total Bitrate: 72.15 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 51100 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 4785 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio English 5116 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 4476 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB)
Dolby Digital Audio German 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio French 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio Italian 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio Japanese 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio Japanese 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio Portuguese 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio Russian 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio English 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -27dB


Daughters of Darkness - FEL 4.371mbps
[Show spoiler]
Name: Daughters of Darkness
Length: 1:40:07.376 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 72,231,764,352 bytes
Total Bitrate: 96.19 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 76496 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 4371 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio English 3934 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 3294 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -31dB)
DTS-HD Master Audio English 3057 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3057 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio English 817 kbps 1.0 / 48 kHz / 817 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 1.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio French 1048 kbps 1.0 / 48 kHz / 1048 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 1.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -31dB
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -31dB
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -20dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 26.366 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 23.952 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 22.752 kbps
Presentation Graphics English 22.891 kbps


10 Cloverfield Lane - FEL 5.860mbps
[Show spoiler]
Disc Title: 10 Cloverfield Lane
Disc Size: 56,318,799,749 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00800.MPLS
Length: 1:43:34.791 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 54,846,468,096 bytes
Total Bitrate: 70.60 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 50338 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 5860 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio English 5254 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 4614 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB)
Dolby Digital Audio French 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio Portuguese 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio German 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio Japanese 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio English 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio English 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -27dB


Back to the Future - FEL 5.242mbps
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Disc Title: Back to the Future
Disc Size: 90,120,809,700 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00040.MPLS
Length: 1:56:02.288 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 78,531,741,696 bytes
Total Bitrate: 90.24 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
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MPEG-H HEVC Video 73198 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 5242 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
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Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio English 4661 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 4213 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -27dB)
DTS Audio Spanish 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio French 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB / Dolby Surround

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 42.301 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 24.916 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 34.944 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 0.347 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 1.302 kbps


Back to the Future Part II - FEL 7.294mbps
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Disc Title: Back to the Future Part II
Disc Size: 86,673,109,144 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00040.MPLS
Length: 1:48:03.310 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 78,709,782,528 bytes
Total Bitrate: 97.12 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 77296 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 7294 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio English 5050 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 4602 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -27dB)
DTS Audio Spanish 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio French 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB / Dolby Surround

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 44.415 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 33.773 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 36.758 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 0.938 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 1.150 kbps


Back to the Future Part III - FEL 5.500mbps
[Show spoiler]
Disc Title: Back to the Future Part III
Disc Size: 88,495,782,019 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00040.MPLS
Length: 1:58:18.257 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 79,669,260,288 bytes
Total Bitrate: 89.79 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 72068 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 5500 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio English 5057 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 4609 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -27dB)
DTS Audio Spanish 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio French 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB / Dolby Surround

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 41.709 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 30.636 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 33.957 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 0.539 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 0.727 kbps
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:58 AM   #7013
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I cancelled my Amazon order and will get one delivered from BB on Thursday I get Hobbit today so that will hold me over. I am beyond excited for these 2 sets
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:04 PM   #7014
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Here we go again



How many times will someone post this?
For other latecomers to the party just as myself: What's the story (or link)?

UHD image looks reframed and half tones are lost (background extras)
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:05 PM   #7015
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Disc 1:


Disc 2:


Subtitles for Elvish languages are 4K rendered.
A lot of breathing room on the discs.
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:12 PM   #7016
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A lot of breathing room on the discs.
With 15 Mb/s dedicated to the audio alone then there needed to be, even then the average bitrate isn't mahoosive for the second disc. I wonder what the bitrates are on the single-disc theatricals, much lower I'd expect.
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:22 PM   #7017
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Know anywhere there is a DVD dts:es comparison?
I believe data-bass.com measured this years ago and I actually tried looking this up yesterday on that site but it was not cooperating with my phone. If you happen to find it over there please post a link as I'm curious myself. IIRC that dts:es DVD track was a bit better vs the blu.
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:24 PM   #7018
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I cancelled my Amazon order and will get one delivered from BB on Thursday I get Hobbit today so that will hold me over. I am beyond excited for these 2 sets
I did the same thing last night. BB will have this to me on Fri.
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:26 PM   #7019
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For other latecomers to the party just as myself: What's the story (or link)?

UHD image looks reframed and half tones are lost (background extras)
The "UHD" image is a phone photo of Bill Hunt's projector screen. i.e. not a direct screenshot and not truly representative of how the movie looks.
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:26 PM   #7020
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5 extra lossless tracks and much room left on the discs and they do 16-bit low bitrate atmos for such a title? Pretty sure it will sound great anyways but still.
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