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Old 04-12-2018, 09:32 PM   #261
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Old 04-12-2018, 09:33 PM   #262
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Well, it was the "original" track for the "Final" version of the film, and it existed that way for over 10 years. Now it's gone, like tears in yadda yadda yadda
Sure, but like you say often any new track is revisionist. I don’t understand why studios can’t release the “real original” and also cater to folks who want the latest and greatest. Then we can all pick something new to complain about
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Old 04-12-2018, 09:36 PM   #263
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Not for the final cut which Ridley supervised.
I really don’t see the difference sorry. Because it was changed years ago it’s ok but because the Atmos track is new it’s not?
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Old 04-12-2018, 09:39 PM   #264
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Sure, but like you say often any new track is revisionist. I don’t understand why studios can’t release the “real original” and also cater to folks who want the latest and greatest. Then we can all pick something new to complain about
That would make too much sense. Studios aren't about that lol
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Old 04-12-2018, 09:50 PM   #265
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Sure, but like you say often any new track is revisionist. I don’t understand why studios can’t release the “real original” and also cater to folks who want the latest and greatest. Then we can all pick something new to complain about
For me it's more about what something was and how it relates to what it is now, rather than a new mix being the devil right off the bat. If they'd kept the core of what the FC 5.1 did for the audio - being one of the best remixes I've ever heard, though let's bear in mind they were hardly upmixing it from mono to start with - then we wouldn't be having this conversation, but it doesn't do that. It dramatically "re-envisions" the entire sound field in service of the Atmos effect, something that the FC 5.1 mix did not do because its mandate wasn't to fill an extra set of speakers or three. The changes to that mix felt true, felt organic, felt like they'd always been there, while the changes to the Atmos mix feel like they're there for the sake of it, even undoing some of the things that the FC 5.1 brought to the table which I found to be rather bizarre.
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Old 04-12-2018, 09:58 PM   #266
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For me it's more about what something was and how it relates to what it is now, rather than a new mix being the devil right off the bat. If they'd kept the core of what the FC 5.1 did for the audio - being one of the best remixes I've ever heard, though let's bear in mind they were hardly upmixing it from mono to start with - then we wouldn't be having this conversation, but it doesn't do that. It dramatically "re-envisions" the entire sound field in service of the Atmos effect, something that the FC 5.1 mix did not do because its mandate wasn't to fill an extra set of speakers or three. The changes to that mix felt true, felt organic, felt like they'd always been there, while the changes to the Atmos mix feel like they're there for the sake of it, even undoing some of the things that the FC 5.1 brought to the table which I found to be rather bizarre.
I get it I know. I would love to have the original trilogy, the bonds, hellz any movie the way it was released. But I also like having an Atmos track as an option. I actually thought the Atmos track was one of the best I have ever heard. Different strokes for different folks. I hope one day you get it.
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Old 04-12-2018, 11:26 PM   #267
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Old 04-12-2018, 11:37 PM   #268
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Old 04-12-2018, 11:40 PM   #269
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I really don’t see the difference sorry. Because it was changed years ago it’s ok but because the Atmos track is new it’s not?
You're a contributor to this site and you're asking that question seems pretty ignorant. And have you actually compared them? Because I have and immediately in the first opening scene you can tell a difference, especially in the rear. I don't want to get anymore off topic then it already has but as a contributor try not to show off your bias so much
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Old 04-12-2018, 11:45 PM   #270
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I know that this is getting off-topic from Atmos vs 5.1, but I think MI2 would be a great movie if it had 90% less slow motion.
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Old 04-12-2018, 11:49 PM   #272
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I know that this is getting off-topic from Atmos vs 5.1, but I think MI2 would be a great movie if it had 90% less slow motion.
Not a fan of John Woo?
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Old 04-12-2018, 11:59 PM   #273
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I know that this is getting off-topic from Atmos vs 5.1, but I think MI2 would be a great movie if it had 90% less slow motion.
And so much reliance on masks as a way to resolve a plot point...and even without them and without the slow motion it still wouldn't be a great movie...good, but certainly not great

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You're a contributor to this site and you're asking that question seems pretty ignorant. And have you actually compared them? Because I have and immediately in the first opening scene you can tell a difference, especially in the rear. I don't want to get anymore off topic then it already has but as a contributor try not to show off your bias so much
Everything you said gets a big NOPE from me.

Next time take your head out of your arse and actually read my posts before commenting.
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How would we ever manage without the Bits, eh? What? Oh.
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Bill Hunt really is the worst.
Enough with the edgy guys.

This isn't the only site on the internet where people get their release news.
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Old 04-13-2018, 12:52 AM   #277
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Even though I want all of them, thank you for individual releases Paramount!
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Old 04-13-2018, 12:53 AM   #278
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Enough with the edgy guys.

This isn't the only site on the internet where people get their release news.
Yeah, but it's posting that on here where the info likely came from in the first place that cracks me up. Nothing personal against Bill whatsoever because all those sites I used to visit back in the day (HTF, HDD, Bits etc) have become largely irrelevant.
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It would be a crime to remix M:I 1. The original mix done by Gary Rydstrom is still reference grade, and one of my all time favorites. I got the chance to hear it again at an art house and their system couldn’t handle it at all. I still spin the Laserdisc ac3 as it’s the only release to date with all the bass intact. A proper lossless rendering of the theatrical 5.1 would be a godsend.
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