Halloween 4K UHD (1978)

[grodd]

Keeping fingers crossed...

• A Blu-ray disc (sporting the new transfers) will be included in each release as well as some previously existing bonus features. Potentially more are in progress and we’ll update you in the future with those details when they come in.

[dylrichard02]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

Yep the peak of Cinematography/Film Stock. You all got me.

Cinematography and film stock are two very different things, one is not dependent on the other at the time of filming, if it was (which 6 was) shot on film. 6 has low production value, not poor film stock.

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

6

Yep the peak of Cinematography/Film Stock. You all got me

Kills is 1000% better.

Maybe you can spot a visual quality difference Kyle&Pixel Peeper Mob.

People who parrot "cheap film stock" don't know what they're talking about.
Sending little compressed screenshots and production stills from Google Images is a funny way to make an argument but ok.

Here's a picture of a cute dog:

[happydood]

Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

So these aren’t just a slipbox, they are a thicker Arrow quality rigid slipbox.

Hmmmm

I'm happy there's confirmation of reversible art and original mono.

[eledoremassis02]

I thought cheaper film stock was grainer (ala Ninja Turtles 1990)? At least its what I read years ago but I am no means informed on the subject. But, I never thought Halloween looked cheap

[Snikt]

Originally Posted by eledoremassis02

I thought cheaper film stock was grainer (ala Ninja Turtles 1990)? At least its what I read years ago but I am no means informed on the subject. But, I never thought Halloween looked cheap

I don’t think it’s necessarily “cheaper,” it’s just the stock as is. There have been many interviews with Cameron and McTiernan about the look of ALIENS and PREDATOR. Yes, they’re grainy…but not cheap. They’ve said that was the film stock they had at the time. Cameron even said Kodak discontinued the film stock a few years later

[jstxanothrxstory]

If you want to look at cheap film stock in a movie, just take a look at Clerks.

[dylrichard02]

Originally Posted by eledoremassis02

I thought cheaper film stock was grainer (ala Ninja Turtles 1990)? At least its what I read years ago but I am no means informed on the subject. But, I never thought Halloween looked cheap

Someone with more knowledge on how this works can correct me, but from what I've learned in school, It's not that it has to do with the cost of the film stock, but the condition of the film stock when scanned. If a film reel is not stored properly, the chemicals applied in the development process can erode slightly. Grain is natural, but the white, light exposed grain appears when the film reels get chemical layer on the film gets exposed to light.

[Energy Crisis]

Originally Posted by eledoremassis02

I thought cheaper film stock was grainer (ala Ninja Turtles 1990)? At least its what I read years ago but I am no means informed on the subject. But, I never thought Halloween looked cheap

Many things affect grain levels but price isn't one of them. Some stocks are just grainier than others. Higher speed stocks will have more noticeable grain than lower speed stocks for example (speed referring to light sensitivity). Then specific photographic and lab techniques play a role. Overexpose the film a bit and you get finer grain. Underexpose and it's much heavier. Look at something like Eyes Wide Shut - super grainy because it was underexposed in photography and then pushed in the lab to get a specific look.

Halloween really looks more expensive than it was. Expertly handled 35mm Panavision anamorphic photography adds a lot of production value. It's the main reason the movie looks so much more polished than all the slasher films it inspired.

[BobSimms]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

6

Yep the peak of Cinematography/Film Stock. You all got me

Kills is 1000% better.

I thought this argument (and this whole thread, frankly) was supposed to be about Halloween (1978), not the look of its cheesy 5th sequel. Also, was Halloween Kills even shot on film?? You’re comparing two completely different mediums and aesthetics with that one.

[The Dark Shape]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

6


Yep the peak of Cinematography/Film Stock. You all got me

Kills is 1000% better.


Maybe you can spot a visual quality difference Kyle&Pixel Peeper Mob.

To be fair, you're comparing a shot of the Producer's Cut of Halloween 6, which wasn't completely finished, to Halloween Kills, which has been finished for the better part of a year.

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by The Dark Shape

To be fair, you're comparing a shot of the Producer's Cut of Halloween 6, which wasn't completely finished, to Halloween Kills, which has been finished for the better part of a year.

Rule one with that user. Don’t take most of their posts serious. They don’t even spell Kurosawa correctly in their name. They seem to be having a laugh.

[crowe-t]

Does anyone know if there will be a review here at Blu-Ray.com before these Halloween 4K movies are released?

[eledoremassis02]

Originally Posted by Energy Crisis

Many things affect grain levels but price isn't one of them. Some stocks are just grainier than others. Higher speed stocks will have more noticeable grain than lower speed stocks for example (speed referring to light sensitivity). Then specific photographic and lab techniques play a role. Overexpose the film a bit and you get finer grain. Underexpose and it's much heavier. Look at something like Eyes Wide Shut - super grainy because it was underexposed in photography and then pushed in the lab to get a specific look.

Halloween really looks more expensive than it was. Expertly handled 35mm Panavision anamorphic photography adds a lot of production value. It's the main reason the movie looks so much more polished than all the slasher films it inspired.

Ahhh I get it, Ninja Turtles definitely has an underexposed look in it.

[chad1231]

Originally Posted by tazz13

Has anyone found an Amazon Canada listing for these yet?

nothing yet, the elvira one is up so hopefully they will put up the rest soon

[dylrichard02]

Originally Posted by crowe-t

Does anyone know if there will be a review here at Blu-Ray.com before these Halloween 4K movies are released?

There might be, it depends on how early the reviewer gets their copies of the discs. If there's not, there is a chance there will be a review on the forum before they are released.

[Telemachus]

Originally Posted by GeoffOliver

This matching cover scheme only really works if all the films get the treatment which is doubtful to happen

Yeah that's a big commitment biting on all 5. I'm gonna cherry pick III for now. There HAS to be a UHD boxset at some point, it would make too much money to not do it.

[Jay Mammoth]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

Yeah that's a big commitment biting on all 5. I'm gonna cherry pick III for now. There HAS to be a UHD boxset at some point, it would make too much money to not do it.

Won’t happen, I think the rights are even more complicated then when we got the Blu-ray set.

[The Dark Shape]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

Yeah that's a big commitment biting on all 5. I'm gonna cherry pick III for now. There HAS to be a UHD boxset at some point, it would make too much money to not do it.

Why would they make a big UHD box set with the back half of the series if the individuals don't sell? Scream Factory would think there isn't a market for these on 4K (or worse, since Halloween is generally dependable, that there isn't a market for ANYTHING on 4K)

[GeoffOliver]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

Yeah that's a big commitment biting on all 5. I'm gonna cherry pick III for now. There HAS to be a UHD boxset at some point, it would make too much money to not do it.

I wonder if a set would contain the standard Blu-ray discs, which have all the (non-commentary) bonus features.

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

Won’t happen, I think the rights are even more complicated then when we got the Blu-ray set.

Eh. All Scream Factory would need to do is license the Miramax films from Paramount (at least for the boxset) license the Zombie films from Spyglass (Sony no longer has RZH2 BTW), and get Universal to agree to let them include the Blumhouse films, which I don’t think would be that impossible, although I would imagine that would be a year or so after Halloween Ends comes out on home video. I wouldn’t hope for such a set until 2023 or even 2024 at the earliest.