Halloween 4K UHD (1978)

[monstermidget]

Originally Posted by hungrywives

I think that's what's caused the problem for people all these years. It sounds like he's answering a question when in fact a question was never asked. Maybe they just wanted to give Pleasance the last word.

In terms of the script and their arcs, this exchange its pretty perfect. It's Loomis confirming her statement but it's also the perfect final retort from him; finally he's found someone who believes/understands the nature of Michael Myers, as he does.

But I agree, if you've misheard what Laurie's has said then his response could be misconstrued, and could seem to confirm a different reading of Laurie's line. That's the ambiguity of language, often we infer meaning by context and still get it wrong. And I suppose, when you've have heard a line a certain way for so many years its very hard to unhear it.

[hungrywives]

Growing up I always knew she said, "it was the boogeyman," with a kind of silent "it" but I always thought she was asking a question like, "it was the boogeyman?" It wasn't until the DVD that I realized she was making a statement and the residue of that former belief could be influencing my interpretation of Donald Pleasence's tone.

[cuzzin]

I had always believed the line to be "What's the bogeyman?" for the longest time. I just took it as Laurie echoing the very same question that Tommy had asked her earlier in the evening.

Originally Posted by Donl1282

He will be using his cane as weapon. 65 isn’t that old. Trump is 75 and he is full of energy.

Halloween: H60
No one murders babysitters like him, believe me.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by monstermidget

In terms of the script and their arcs, this exchange its pretty perfect. It's Loomis confirming her statement but it's also the perfect final retort from him; finally he's found someone who believes/understands the nature of Michael Myers, as he does.

But I agree, if you've misheard what Laurie's has said then his response could be misconstrued, and could seem to confirm a different reading of Laurie's line. That's the ambiguity of language, often we infer meaning by context and still get it wrong. And I suppose, when you've have heard a line a certain way for so many years its very hard to unhear it.

For years I thought she said “What’s the boogeyman?” which is a very strange question to ask because it’s so random. And to make matters even worse, I misheard Loomis’s reply. I thought he said “As a matter of fact, that was.” I heard “that” instead of “it.” Probably because it wouldn’t have made sense to answer her question with “it” so my mind heard “that.” And I always thought it was strange how he didn’t emphasize the word “that.”

“What’s the boogeyman?”
“As a matter of fact, that was” would’ve been the normal way of answering that question had she asked it. But it’s a really strange question. The only alternative line I can think of that makes sense is “Was that the boogeyman?” And this is exactly what Laurie says in Rob Zombie’s Halloween.

[DR Herbert West]

HALLOWEEN

a screenplay

by

John Carpenter

and

Debra Hill


SHOOTING DRAFT
REV. 4-10-78

Loomis rushes to Laurie and bends down beside her. For a
moment she just cries in his arms, sobbing hysterically.

Then she looks up at him with a glazed, wild expression.

LAURIE
It was the Boogeyman...

Loomis looks down at her, then up at the shattered window
at the end of the hall.

LOOMIS
As a matter of fact it was.

He walks slowly down to the window and peers out.

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[Markgway]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

She says “It was the boogeyman” and Loomis’s response is just confirming what she said.

I re-checked the clip and she doesn't say 'it'.

Just 'was the boogeyman'.

@3:55

Halloween (1978) movie ending - YouTube

[silkandskin]

Tina!

[DR Herbert West]

Big cookie woman!

[James_Younger_Gang]

I preordered all of the upcoming Halloween movie 4ks from amazon, but I am wondering if it will be really worth double dipping on these. I already own these movies on the deluxe blu ray box set, plus I own the first 4k release of the original , and the remastered steelbooks of Halloween 2 and 3. The way I see it, Halloween 4 seems to be the only one needing a new release.

[okko]

I think "Was it the boogeyman?" as a question would have been more fitting for his response but, meh. They both work.

To me, "What's the boogeyman", which for years I thought the line went, was more like Jamie blended the words "was" and "it" to sound like "what's."

Just watched again, and she definitely says "It was the boogeyman" as a statement, not a question.


Kev

[dcx4610]

I had the boogeyman debate for years and years.

As a kid and for years, I heard "What's the boogeyman?". It made no sense at all but that's what it sounds like.

Then I thought maybe she said "Was it the boogeyman?" because that would make sense since she denied it and she's asking Loomis. It just sounded like she said it fast and in a distressed manner.

Then eventually when DVD came out, I finally close captioned it (and all versions since) and it says "It was the boogeyman...". You can hear it but it's almost like she combines it and was. Then Loomis confirms it to her.

How she means it is also important. It reminds me of Taxi Driver when they they debate the "We are the people" and "We ARE the people". They are the same sentence but they convey a different meaning.

Laurie is just telling Loomis "It was the boogyeman...." almost like a little kid telling the first person they see what they saw.

Man, we are complete psychos but this is important stuff.

[flash.over]

It’s objectively “it was the boogeyman” whether you can hear it or not. To me, it always sounded like the audio is cut off for a millisecond and she said “T’was the boogeyman”
Lol

[Brian81]

[quote=Donl1282;19256537]

Originally Posted by Jay H.

In 2022, Michael Myers will be 65. Will he put away the knife and call it quits?

Halloween - the night HE came to a retirement home.



He will be using his cane as weapon. 65 isn’t that old. Trump is 75 and he is full of energy.

Just because you are full of mental energy doesn’t mean you are agile. Dude still walks like a senior. Won’t see him overpowering someone like a young Laurie Strode.

[Jay H.]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

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It's so odd to me that this was ever questioned. I have always heard it the way it was written. I didn't know it was an issue until it was brought up on this board.

[okko]

Originally Posted by flash.over

It’s objectively “it was the boogeyman” whether you can hear it or not. To me, it always sounded like the audio is cut off for a millisecond and she said “T’was the boogeyman”
Lol

Great - now I'll never be able to unhear this. Thanks a lot, bro




Kev

[The80s]

Originally Posted by Markgway

She says "Was the Boogeyman."

"Was that the boogeyman?" is the only line that makes sense of Loomis' response.

I'm just assuming she fluffed the line.

It's a wonder why Carpenter didn't ask for another take

[Christian Muth]

Originally Posted by The80s

It's a wonder why Carpenter didn't ask for another take

I'm sure there was more than one take, this was just the one he liked best.

Chris

[dylrichard02]

Originally Posted by The80s

It's a wonder why Carpenter didn't ask for another take

Even with a word missing, it's a great take and Curtis sold the trauma very well, in my opinion.

[babyj]

I just got the Sony ubp x800 m2 and this disc in Dolby vision looks awful. Does anyone else think it’s wayyyyy too bright? Or is it my player?

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by babyj

I just got the Sony ubp x800 m2 and this disc in Dolby vision looks awful. Does anyone else think it’s wayyyyy too bright? Or is it my player?

Wrong disc. It's not out yet. You got the old one. You might want to look into your player and TV settings as well.