Halloween 4K UHD (1978)

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

Didn't Arrow come really close to obtaining the rights to the original film a while back? Not sure what happened there, but it wouldn't surprise me if they'd since tried again.

Oh I hope so. As much as I've opined that the filtered OG mono is better than no OG mono that's another reason why I'll wait. And it's not like having an un****ed mono track plus betterer compression of the new transfer is some kind of unicorn release, I've got faith that someone somewhere is going to be able to put them together. After all, it's Halloween: they will never, ever stop re-releasing this movie for as long as home video exists.

[KubrickKurasawa]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Carpenter was the king of anamorphic framing

TV Cuts were so popular from this guy they're now extras Wrong

[monstermidget]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Carpenter trying to excuse a major plot point in a film he wrote and partially directed by claiming he wrote it in a drunken stupor is one of the lamest things I've ever heard from a director. He wrote it. Own it. Instead he blames alcohol? How professional of him.

If he wrote it in a drunken stupor the night before, why didn't he realize how "poor" it was the next day? Why did he submit it after he sobered up if he just scribbled it out when he was drunk? And writing a script when you're drunk is not what I would consider professional.

I'm sorry, but his excuse never worked for me. He wrote it, he filmed it, it's canon, and people watched it for decades. Then he came up with an excuse of why he didn't like it and wrote it out in H18. I'm not a fan of any of that tomfoolery.

And many still like Halloween II just as it is.

To my knowledge Carpenter has never claimed he wrote Halloween in a drunken stupor. The first occurrence of this anecdote(again, at least to my knowledge) was during a Mark Kermode documentary for the BBC. Carpenter said (paraphrasing here), he didn't want to do a sequel, it was late (he would often leave script writing projects until last minute) and he had a six pack of beer and it was the best he could come up with. It was to show that he had not put much thought into the script, a script he felt he was forced into writing.

The reason Kermode asked him in the first place was to establish for his documentary audience that Laurie and Michael had no connection in the original film, nor had Carpenter ever intend there to be one until he found himself wrangled into writing a second picture (I can't remember exactly but I think this was a stipulation for he and Hill getting a larger share of the financial trappings of the film they created) and so whatever about the plots points and arcs of the sequels; the first film stood alone and distinct and things like the familial connection established in the second film were an after thought which should not effect the experience of the first film.

So he was asked a question about the writing of Halloween II and he answered it. It's not an excuse, it's what happened as Carpenter remembers it.
I don't expect he gives two shits about what other people think is canon or not. And rightly so.

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by SpacemanDoug

if Studio Canal gets involved though, who knows lol

That's pretty well unlikely, they don't typically license from other groups like that.

[WorkShed]

Diabolik must've gotten back. I just got my shipment notice.

[SpacemanDoug]

Originally Posted by Kyle15

That's pretty well unlikely, they don't typically license from other groups like that.

amen to that

[jstxanothrxstory]

Originally Posted by monstermidget

(I can't remember exactly but I think this was a stipulation for he and Hill getting a larger share of the financial trappings of the film they created)

It's a combination of a couple of things: John Carpenter and Debra Hill were essentially told a sequel was going to happen regardless; neither of them had made much money from the original so they did the sequel to get a larger payout than they had gotten in 1978; they figured it'd be a way to kill off Michael Myers and turn the series into an anthology. Jamie Lee Curtis also had no desire to return as that was when she was trying to move on from horror into other genres, but did so out of loyalty and appreciation for the first film being her launching pad.

[tazz13]

Originally Posted by Pazuzu

I also pre-ordered from Amazon Canada, but in August. The expected delivery date has been October 13-14 since I placed the order, and nothing's changed so far. I'm guessing the lack of stock only affects future orders...

Hmm is that how it works? I assumed out of stock means just in general and my order will sit there until they get more in. I'm so sick of amazon. This happens every time I pre-order anything that is remotely popular. What the **** is the point of pre-ordering.

[JCRW82]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Oh I hope so. As much as I've opined that the filtered OG mono is better than no OG mono that's another reason why I'll wait. And it's not like having an un****ed mono track plus betterer compression of the new transfer is some kind of unicorn release, I've got faith that someone somewhere is going to be able to put them together. After all, it's Halloween: they will never, ever stop re-releasing this movie for as long as home video exists.

I also wouldn't be opposed if Criterion managed to get permission to work on Halloween (1978) again a few years down the line. It's doubtful they get the license but if they did we would get a great result with the picture and audio. But I can already see the Atmos enthusiasts get mad if Criterion got the film because they could veto including a surround mix in the release.

[SpacemanDoug]

Originally Posted by JCRW82

I also wouldn't be opposed if Criterion managed to get permission to work on Halloween (1978) again a few years down the line. It's doubtful they get the license but if they did we would get a great result with the picture and audio. But I can already see the Atmos enthusiasts get mad if Criterion got the film because they could veto including a surround mix in the release.

if Criterion got it, it would probably be yet another mediocre at best encode and an even more filtered mono track than what we have here, since they always love to apply unnecessary "additional restoration" to a lot of their audio tracks and similar to Shout have a lot of problematic encodes

[JCRW82]

Originally Posted by SpacemanDoug

if Criterion got it, it would probably be yet another mediocre at best encode and an even more filtered mono track than what we have here, since they always love to apply unnecessary "additional restoration" to a lot of their audio tracks and similar to Shout have a lot of problematic encodes

Hmmm, I haven't purchased anything from Criterion in a while so their standards must have dropped through the years.

[DR Herbert West]

Second Sight would be my pick.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by JCRW82

Hmmm, I haven't purchased anything from Criterion in a while so their standards must have dropped through the years.

Drastically

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

Second Sight would be my pick.

Would I go whole-hogg on a Halloween set comparable to their Dawn of The Dead?

The answer is...

[DaylightsEnd]

Originally Posted by gbolling1984

Anyone else pre-order these on Amazon only to get an email saying they won't arrive until mid-late October? What's the point of pre-ordering only to have them arrive that late?

You didn't get the memo? Because DGG retconned the series all the way back to H1 with H2018, Shout has secretly agreed to make parts 2 through 5 only available after the release of Halloween Killz, because technically they don't exist. Check Facebook. It's happening right now.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

TV Cuts were so popular from this guy they're now extras Wrong

Was this post made in random word generator?

[NeilZ]

Originally Posted by tama

I was worries about this issue when I picked up the Sony A90J as my LG B7 had the same issue. Had to changed the setting in the service menu on the B7.

Since you can't do the same on the Sony sets however I was relieved when I realized this set did not suffer the same issue. Much more laxed when it triggers in that regard. My Unforgiven disc played flawlessly when I rewatched it on this set.

Have you ever seen ABL trigger on the A90J watching movies? I haven't as of yet (I use gradient and dolby dark though). Even in video games I've yet to trigger ABL, although I've seen it get triggered once on a Youtube video, but the player was using brightness preferred and it was an ultra bright day time scene in an FPS where he was aiming at an angle that had a lot of sky for an extended period of time. As far as my experience goes the A90J is the first OLED to truly defeat ABL once and for all.

[NeilZ]

Could the fact that the Shout has less grain be due to it coming from the OCN and not an Interpositive? I mean even a generation down would add grain. Doesn't resolve the mediocre encode though. All in all looking through the caps I do think the Shout wins most comparisons (even ignoring the aspect ratio difference).

[Jumpman]

So, what’s the consensus on which version is better?

[Nocoastpunk]

Amazon is still telling me that my pre-order won’t be delivered until mid November, so I put in a pick up order from Best Buy at midnight. It is just annoying because I had used the $15 coupon that Amazon had on this, so I guess that was a waste.