It 4K UHD (2017) - Page 58 - Blu-ray Forum

bradnoyes · 03-07-2018, 10:46 PM

One of my major complaints with this movie (possibly my biggest complaint) is that the CGI absolutely kills any fear or tension I feel regarding Pennywise. Would a 4K DI make that CGI look even more artificial?

Opips3 · 03-07-2018, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bradnoyes

One of my major complaints with this movie (possibly my biggest complaint) is that the CGI absolutely kills any fear or tension I feel regarding Pennywise. Would a 4K DI make that CGI look even more artificial?

I watched "dark crystal" on bluray. I can't see CGI....how?
I not yet buy 4K UHD.

I can see CGI on "it" is a shitty!

aetherhole · 03-07-2018, 11:15 PM

Opips3 I can guess English isn't your first language, but you still come off very strongly opinionated, but not quite accurate most of the time.

I don't think the CGI in "It" is shitty. I think it fares a lot better than other modern films. Still, Dark Crystal was made in the 80's which they didn't really have CG, so the characters were all puppets. That's why you can't see CGI on it really.

Also 4K DI can be sharper, but not always. There are too many additional contributing factors on why we are getting such varied content. Regarding resolution, there are movies with 4K DI on UHD that look marginally better than their BD counterparts. Then there are movies with 2K DI on UHD that it is almost a night and day difference versus their BD counterpart. Filming techniques, physical cameras used, post processing techniques, etc ALL play a role in the "Sharpness" of a movie.

Theoretically, yes, if you were to compare a movie with a 4K DI to the same movie with a 2K DI, there would be a difference in quality; however as far as I know, no film has gone BOTH routes to give us a proper comparison (someone correct me if I am wrong).

Poya · 03-08-2018, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

Maybe I have been spoiled by amazing Native 4k discs like The Dark Knight and Dunkirk. Yes It looks fine even in HDR10. Even without Dolby Vision the disc still looks better than any standard Blu-Ray could possibly look at that counts for something. I'm just saying really hope the sequel is produced in Native 4k because it does make a difference

Other than the IMAX scenes, there is nothing amazing about The Dark Knight in UHD.

ert826 · 03-09-2018, 10:45 PM

Is it worth spending the extra $10 for 4k?? I'd be willing to if there's a noticeable difference, but I've heard the standard blu ray looks good too.

Majoran · 03-10-2018, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ert826

Is it worth spending the extra $10 for 4k?? I'd be willing to if there's a noticeable difference, but I've heard the standard blu ray looks good too.

So sell the Blu-Ray and Digital code and make some money back? The worth is always going to vary from person to person. Personally im waiting to see if an extended version gets released (unless this version drops significantly). I got the early release on ITunes and it will hold me over.

lquevideo · 03-17-2018, 02:24 AM

did a blind buy for this for 10 bucks, and have been enjoying it since i've never seen this before.

JTKenobi · 03-29-2018, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by supersix4

yup i did this got HDX -_-

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Originally Posted by pythonis

If you go through vudu it redeems HD

Has this still not been fixed? Has anyone heard about this issue lately?
I know UV seems to by dying, but I'd still prefer to have this in UHD in my UV locker as well.

Blu Balls · 04-04-2018, 06:12 PM

It 4K finally went on sale for $19.99 at Best Buy. I'm waiting for my reward zone points to post so I can get it for $15.

nvadr · 04-05-2018, 08:14 PM

Won't blind buy another 4k title ever again.. hated it!

The Debts · 04-06-2018, 11:54 AM

A local pawn shop of mine has new copies of this going for 15 bucks. Should I jump on it or wait for the director's cut? Cause I'm feeling pretty dang conflicted right now.

Zimmy · 04-06-2018, 12:21 PM

I ended up getting the $10 Vudu UHD and I'm kind of glad I did. It looks amazing and I still can enjoy the Atmos track.

I have the same problem I had when I watched in the theaters.
It just isn't scary and even worse, the kids don't seemed fazed by anything.
I wish they went less with the 80s Stranger Things nostalgia and showed more Pennywise victims. They could have done 4 more "Georgie" type scenes.
In the book, the characters are so scared it affects them the rest of their lives, their hair turns white, etc.

jtu128 · 04-06-2018, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Debts

A local pawn shop of mine has new copies of this going for 15 bucks. Should I jump on it or wait for the director's cut? Cause I'm feeling pretty dang conflicted right now.

I’m waiting to see if we get a “special” release once part II is released.

pottyaboutpotter1 · 04-06-2018, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Zimmy

In the book, the characters are so scared it affects them the rest of their lives, their hair turns white, etc.

Misremembering the book a bit there. Only the bully Henry Bowers has his hair turn white. As for the Losers Club, they all forget everything afterwards apart from Mike (who is the only one to stay in Derry). When Pennywise returns, he phones the others and only then do they remember but only vaguely. And the vague memories terrify them. The Losers lead relatively normal lives and find great success when they leave Derry, unaffected by their experiences until Mike phones them.

bluescholar · 04-06-2018, 05:07 PM

^ Indeed, in fact it is later speculated by the group that Derry itself (by way of Pennywise) keeps it's horrible secrets by causing people who leave the place to forget their awful experiences. What happens in Derry stays in Derry, in other words.

bradnoyes · 04-06-2018, 05:28 PM

Indeed. I was really hoping the movie would have made Derry itself more central to the story, as I think it would have made a much more atmospheric and affecting film, and left Pennywise a bit more shrouded in mystery. Instead they did the opposite, which made for a more fun film on the first viewing but also a less interesting one.

EarlyGrace · 04-07-2018, 11:04 PM

A 3 rating for the visual on 4K has me really questioning the worth of purchase. A little bit surprised as to why the blu is better reviewed.

Geoff D · 04-07-2018, 11:12 PM

The UHD is excellent. Ignore the review.

bradnoyes · 04-07-2018, 11:15 PM

Came here to say the same thing. It's a great disc all around. Very immersive Atmos mix and the picture quality is lovely. Really vibrant. If you like the movie the UHD is an easy recommendation.

Pgcmoore · 04-08-2018, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

The UHD is excellent. Ignore the review.

agreed, and it's one of the best looking, sounding uhd disks that i own!
not sure what that reviewer was viewing this with, on.

but sometimes i just

03-07-2018, 11:15 PM	#1143
aetherhole Special Member Member since:Nov 2015 Location:Tustin, CA 4K collection:492 Blu-ray collection:991 MA collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:1	Opips3 I can guess English isn't your first language, but you still come off very strongly opinionated, but not quite accurate most of the time. I don't think the CGI in "It" is shitty. I think it fares a lot better than other modern films. Still, Dark Crystal was made in the 80's which they didn't really have CG, so the characters were all puppets. That's why you can't see CGI on it really. Also 4K DI can be sharper, but not always. There are too many additional contributing factors on why we are getting such varied content. Regarding resolution, there are movies with 4K DI on UHD that look marginally better than their BD counterparts. Then there are movies with 2K DI on UHD that it is almost a night and day difference versus their BD counterpart. Filming techniques, physical cameras used, post processing techniques, etc ALL play a role in the "Sharpness" of a movie. Theoretically, yes, if you were to compare a movie with a 4K DI to the same movie with a 2K DI, there would be a difference in quality; however as far as I know, no film has gone BOTH routes to give us a proper comparison (someone correct me if I am wrong). Last edited by aetherhole; 03-08-2018 at 06:17 PM.

03-07-2018, 10:46 PM	#1141
bradnoyes Blu-ray Knight Member since:Dec 2016 4K collection:778 Blu-ray collection:819 Trading Score:255	One of my major complaints with this movie (possibly my biggest complaint) is that the CGI absolutely kills any fear or tension I feel regarding Pennywise. Would a 4K DI make that CGI look even more artificial?

03-09-2018, 10:45 PM	#1145
ert826 New Member Member since:Mar 2018	Is it worth spending the extra $10 for 4k?? I'd be willing to if there's a noticeable difference, but I've heard the standard blu ray looks good too.

03-17-2018, 02:24 AM	#1147
lquevideo Senior Member Member since:Mar 2018 Trading Score:7	did a blind buy for this for 10 bucks, and have been enjoying it since i've never seen this before.

04-04-2018, 06:12 PM	#1149
Blu Balls Power Member Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Northern Illinois Blu-ray collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:73	It 4K finally went on sale for $19.99 at Best Buy. I'm waiting for my reward zone points to post so I can get it for $15.

04-05-2018, 08:14 PM	#1150
nvadr Expert Member Member since:Apr 2011 Blu-ray reviews: 24	Won't blind buy another 4k title ever again.. hated it!

04-06-2018, 11:54 AM	#1151
The Debts Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jun 2013 Location:ME 4K collection:56 Blu-ray collection:333 DVD collection:181 MA collection:143 Digital collection:211 iTunes collection:147 Prime collection:122 Blu-ray reviews: 5	A local pawn shop of mine has new copies of this going for 15 bucks. Should I jump on it or wait for the director's cut? Cause I'm feeling pretty dang conflicted right now.

04-06-2018, 12:21 PM	#1152
Zimmy Special Member Member since:Sep 2009 Trading Score:2	I ended up getting the $10 Vudu UHD and I'm kind of glad I did. It looks amazing and I still can enjoy the Atmos track. I have the same problem I had when I watched in the theaters. It just isn't scary and even worse, the kids don't seemed fazed by anything. I wish they went less with the 80s Stranger Things nostalgia and showed more Pennywise victims. They could have done 4 more "Georgie" type scenes. In the book, the characters are so scared it affects them the rest of their lives, their hair turns white, etc.

04-06-2018, 05:07 PM	#1155
bluescholar Senior Member Member since:Oct 2016	^ Indeed, in fact it is later speculated by the group that Derry itself (by way of Pennywise) keeps it's horrible secrets by causing people who leave the place to forget their awful experiences. What happens in Derry stays in Derry, in other words.

04-06-2018, 05:28 PM	#1156
bradnoyes Blu-ray Knight Member since:Dec 2016 4K collection:778 Blu-ray collection:819 Trading Score:255	Indeed. I was really hoping the movie would have made Derry itself more central to the story, as I think it would have made a much more atmospheric and affecting film, and left Pennywise a bit more shrouded in mystery. Instead they did the opposite, which made for a more fun film on the first viewing but also a less interesting one.

04-07-2018, 11:04 PM	#1157
EarlyGrace Banned Member since:May 2017 Location:Kalifornia Trading Score:256	A 3 rating for the visual on 4K has me really questioning the worth of purchase. A little bit surprised as to why the blu is better reviewed.

04-07-2018, 11:12 PM	#1158
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	The UHD is excellent. Ignore the review.

04-07-2018, 11:15 PM	#1159
bradnoyes Blu-ray Knight Member since:Dec 2016 4K collection:778 Blu-ray collection:819 Trading Score:255	Came here to say the same thing. It's a great disc all around. Very immersive Atmos mix and the picture quality is lovely. Really vibrant. If you like the movie the UHD is an easy recommendation.

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