Mission: Impossible 1-5 4K UHDs (1996-2015)

[openviews]

Doesn’t include the new Mission Impossible 4Ks but Zoom have a buy one get one free offer to celebrate Tom Cruises birthday. 5 UHDs included.

https://www.zoom.co.uk/category/tom_...ce=Emailvision

[cornbread_1788]

Originally Posted by Bourne1886

It was also an Asda exclusive in the U.K. Walmart own Asda. I managed to get a copy.

I have gotten 3 discs of that DVD, and each one has failed to work.... I've tried bluray players, DVD players, laptops, etc and it will not work.

[Geoff D]

Watched Mi2. Looks like another decent new transfer on the face of it, plenty of soft shots etc etc but still a nice, crisp piece of celluloid when it's allowed to be (some shots tend to look a bit jittery, looks like a registration issue with one of the cameras used to shoot the film). However, the good Sky Captain was spot on about the colour grading before, I previously dismissed his concerns as he mentioned that the sky specifically keeps changing colour but it's not just the sky, the colour in general keeps changing from shot to shot to shot to shot, it's worst in the action sequences but still happens even in dialogue scenes.

Yes, if you look at the old BD or DVD then you'll see a similar phenom, particularly in the end fight between Hunt and Ambrose as the sky will cut from blue to white to turquoise, some clouds, lots of clouds, no clouds etc. But at least on that old HD transfer the skin tones remain fairly consistent within that changing backdrop, even with photochemical grading it's easy enough to keep track of skin tones as although the backdrops may change, people's faces don't and you can use that as your starting point.

But damn, this HDR grade is all over the place and some shots look so iffy they remind me of watching ungraded 'raw' material as skin tones can look very, very yellowy and the sky skews almost to a purple colour, the bit when Hunt approaches the helicopter just after putting Ambrose down (but before he shoots him) makes TC look like he had jaundice that day. It's very strange, and it's not the Dobly's fault because the HDR10 layer is graded exactly the same way, it's almost like whoever was grading this was laughing so hard at the absurdity of it all that they forgot to twiddle the knobs.

As for le film, holy hell it's still a stinker. It's so incredibly overwrought it's like watching a parody of a John Woo film, as well as feeling like 'Scary Movie does Mission Impossible' in general, and whenever Lisa Gerrard started wailing I fully expected Russell Crowe to walk on and starting waffling about life echoing in eternity. To go from the reasonable amount of verisimilitude in MI1 to this completely OTT iteration is like Bond switching from Dr No to Octopussy in just one film. At least with Bond it felt like it'd had earned the right to do something a bit different with Moore after 10 years and 7 films but here it's a horrible miscalculation and I'm genuinely stunned that it didn't sink the whole franchise. Instead it remains the highest grossing one out of all five films domestically

[bbwiscfan]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Watched Mi2. Looks like another decent new transfer on the face of it, plenty of soft shots etc etc but still a nice, crisp piece of celluloid when it's allowed to be (some shots tend to look a bit jittery, looks like a registration issue with one of the cameras used to shoot the film). However, the good Sky Captain was spot on about the colour grading before, I previously dismissed his concerns as he mentioned that the sky specifically keeps changing colour but it's not just the sky, the colour in general keeps changing from shot to shot to shot to shot, it's worst in the action sequences but still happens even in dialogue scenes.

Yes, if you look at the old BD or DVD then you'll see a similar phenom, particularly in the end fight between Hunt and Ambrose as the sky will cut from blue to white to turquoise, some clouds, lots of clouds, no clouds etc. But at least on that old HD transfer the skin tones remain fairly consistent within that changing backdrop, even with photochemical grading it's easy enough to keep track of skin tones as although the backdrops may change, people's faces don't and you can use that as your starting point.

But damn, this HDR grade is all over the place and some shots look so iffy they remind me of watching ungraded 'raw' material as skin tones can look very, very yellowy and the sky skews almost to a purple colour, the bit when Hunt approaches the helicopter just after putting Ambrose down (but before he shoots him) makes TC look like he had jaundice that day. It's very strange, and it's not the Dobly's fault because the HDR10 layer is graded exactly the same way, it's almost like whoever was grading this was laughing so hard at the absurdity of it all that they forgot to twiddle the knobs.

As for le film, holy hell it's still a stinker. It's so incredibly overwrought it's like watching a parody of a John Woo film, as well as feeling like 'Scary Movie does Mission Impossible' in general, and whenever Lisa Gerrard started wailing I fully expected Russell Crowe to walk on and starting waffling about life echoing in eternity. To go from the reasonable amount of verisimilitude in MI1 to this completely OTT iteration is like Bond switching from Dr No to Octopussy in just one film. At least with Bond it felt like it'd had earned the right to do something a bit different with Moore after 10 years and 7 films but here it's a horrible miscalculation and I'm genuinely stunned that it didn't sink the whole franchise. Instead it remains the highest grossing one out of all five films domestically

Thandie Newton couldn't save it for ya could it Geoffy lol

[Geoff D]

Nope, not Thandie (she look so young!), not even the amusing homoerotic overtones to Stamp's jealousy of Naya coming back into Ambrose's life. That bit when he clips the tip of his finger off is hilarious. Alas, I don't to laugh at an MI film.

[fighthefutureofhd]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Watched Mi2. Looks like another decent new transfer on the face of it, plenty of soft shots etc etc but still a nice, crisp piece of celluloid when it's allowed to be (some shots tend to look a bit jittery, looks like a registration issue with one of the cameras used to shoot the film). However, the good Sky Captain was spot on about the colour grading before, I previously dismissed his concerns as he mentioned that the sky specifically keeps changing colour but it's not just the sky, the colour in general keeps changing from shot to shot to shot to shot, it's worst in the action sequences but still happens even in dialogue scenes.

Yes, if you look at the old BD or DVD then you'll see a similar phenom, particularly in the end fight between Hunt and Ambrose as the sky will cut from blue to white to turquoise, some clouds, lots of clouds, no clouds etc. But at least on that old HD transfer the skin tones remain fairly consistent within that changing backdrop, even with photochemical grading it's easy enough to keep track of skin tones as although the backdrops may change, people's faces don't and you can use that as your starting point.

But damn, this HDR grade is all over the place and some shots look so iffy they remind me of watching ungraded 'raw' material as skin tones can look very, very yellowy and the sky skews almost to a purple colour, the bit when Hunt approaches the helicopter just after putting Ambrose down (but before he shoots him) makes TC look like he had jaundice that day. It's very strange, and it's not the Dobly's fault because the HDR10 layer is graded exactly the same way, it's almost like whoever was grading this was laughing so hard at the absurdity of it all that they forgot to twiddle the knobs.

As for le film, holy hell it's still a stinker. It's so incredibly overwrought it's like watching a parody of a John Woo film, as well as feeling like 'Scary Movie does Mission Impossible' in general, and whenever Lisa Gerrard started wailing I fully expected Russell Crowe to walk on and starting waffling about life echoing in eternity. To go from the reasonable amount of verisimilitude in MI1 to this completely OTT iteration is like Bond switching from Dr No to Octopussy in just one film. At least with Bond it felt like it'd had earned the right to do something a bit different with Moore after 10 years and 7 films but here it's a horrible miscalculation and I'm genuinely stunned that it didn't sink the whole franchise. Instead it remains the highest grossing one out of all five films domestically

And my favorite of the bunch. Plus, I got my copy in. After ordering it yesterday! Wooooooo hooooooooo!!!!! I've got M:I2 and the innocence mission. Bliss.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Watched Mi2. Looks like another decent new transfer on the face of it, plenty of soft shots etc etc but still a nice, crisp piece of celluloid when it's allowed to be (some shots tend to look a bit jittery, looks like a registration issue with one of the cameras used to shoot the film). However, the good Sky Captain was spot on about the colour grading before, I previously dismissed his concerns as he mentioned that the sky specifically keeps changing colour but it's not just the sky, the colour in general keeps changing from shot to shot to shot to shot, it's worst in the action sequences but still happens even in dialogue scenes.

Yes, if you look at the old BD or DVD then you'll see a similar phenom, particularly in the end fight between Hunt and Ambrose as the sky will cut from blue to white to turquoise, some clouds, lots of clouds, no clouds etc. But at least on that old HD transfer the skin tones remain fairly consistent within that changing backdrop, even with photochemical grading it's easy enough to keep track of skin tones as although the backdrops may change, people's faces don't and you can use that as your starting point.

But damn, this HDR grade is all over the place and some shots look so iffy they remind me of watching ungraded 'raw' material as skin tones can look very, very yellowy and the sky skews almost to a purple colour, the bit when Hunt approaches the helicopter just after putting Ambrose down (but before he shoots him) makes TC look like he had jaundice that day. It's very strange, and it's not the Dobly's fault because the HDR10 layer is graded exactly the same way, it's almost like whoever was grading this was laughing so hard at the absurdity of it all that they forgot to twiddle the knobs.

As for le film, holy hell it's still a stinker. It's so incredibly overwrought it's like watching a parody of a John Woo film, as well as feeling like 'Scary Movie does Mission Impossible' in general, and whenever Lisa Gerrard started wailing I fully expected Russell Crowe to walk on and starting waffling about life echoing in eternity. To go from the reasonable amount of verisimilitude in MI1 to this completely OTT iteration is like Bond switching from Dr No to Octopussy in just one film. At least with Bond it felt like it'd had earned the right to do something a bit different with Moore after 10 years and 7 films but here it's a horrible miscalculation and I'm genuinely stunned that it didn't sink the whole franchise. Instead it remains the highest grossing one out of all five films domestically

The beginning of Hans Zimmer being bad captured forever.

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Watched Mi2. Looks like another decent new transfer on the face of it, plenty of soft shots etc etc but still a nice, crisp piece of celluloid when it's allowed to be (some shots tend to look a bit jittery, looks like a registration issue with one of the cameras used to shoot the film). However, the good Sky Captain was spot on about the colour grading before, I previously dismissed his concerns as he mentioned that the sky specifically keeps changing colour but it's not just the sky, the colour in general keeps changing from shot to shot to shot to shot, it's worst in the action sequences but still happens even in dialogue scenes.

Yes, if you look at the old BD or DVD then you'll see a similar phenom, particularly in the end fight between Hunt and Ambrose as the sky will cut from blue to white to turquoise, some clouds, lots of clouds, no clouds etc. But at least on that old HD transfer the skin tones remain fairly consistent within that changing backdrop, even with photochemical grading it's easy enough to keep track of skin tones as although the backdrops may change, people's faces don't and you can use that as your starting point.

But damn, this HDR grade is all over the place and some shots look so iffy they remind me of watching ungraded 'raw' material as skin tones can look very, very yellowy and the sky skews almost to a purple colour, the bit when Hunt approaches the helicopter just after putting Ambrose down (but before he shoots him) makes TC look like he had jaundice that day. It's very strange, and it's not the Dobly's fault because the HDR10 layer is graded exactly the same way, it's almost like whoever was grading this was laughing so hard at the absurdity of it all that they forgot to twiddle the knobs.

As for le film, holy hell it's still a stinker. It's so incredibly overwrought it's like watching a parody of a John Woo film, as well as feeling like 'Scary Movie does Mission Impossible' in general, and whenever Lisa Gerrard started wailing I fully expected Russell Crowe to walk on and starting waffling about life echoing in eternity. To go from the reasonable amount of verisimilitude in MI1 to this completely OTT iteration is like Bond switching from Dr No to Octopussy in just one film. At least with Bond it felt like it'd had earned the right to do something a bit different with Moore after 10 years and 7 films but here it's a horrible miscalculation and I'm genuinely stunned that it didn't sink the whole franchise. Instead it remains the highest grossing one out of all five films domestically

Hmm, sounds to me like this UHD presentation is not really that good then which is a real pity. I think I'll lower my enthusiasm a bit but I'm still eager to watch it ofcourse.

My UK set still hasn't shown up, I must be the last one here to be able to enjoy this.

The highlighted part in your review made me laugh out loud, I'll admit.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by DJR662

Hmm, sounds to me like this UHD presentation is not really that good then which is a real pity. I think I'll lower my enthusiasm a bit but I'm still eager to watch it ofcourse.

My UK set still hasn't shown up, I must be the last one here to be able to enjoy this.

The highlighted part in your review made me laugh out loud, I'll admit.

Always keep in mind that Geoffy Vision™ is different from normie vision, what was a constant distraction (or in other cases, a noticeable improvement) for me may not be all that noticeable to others. But if the Captain notices it you can be sure it's there so it's not just me crying wolf on this occasion.

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

The beginning of Hans Zimmer being bad captured forever.

I loved what he did prior to mi2 and I still dig what he's doing today, but this score is as witless a mishmash as the film itself.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Always keep in mind that Geoffy Vision™ is different from normie vision, what was a constant distraction (or in other cases, a noticeable improvement) for me may not be all that noticeable to others. But if the Captain notices it you can be sure it's there so it's not just me crying wolf on this occasion.



I loved what he did prior to mi2 and I still dig what he's doing today, but this score is as witless a mishmash as the film itself.

Today he doesn't really do his music, he has help for that.

[Bourne1886]

Originally Posted by cornbread_1788

I have gotten 3 discs of that DVD, and each one has failed to work.... I've tried bluray players, DVD players, laptops, etc and it will not work.

I’m gonna try mine now. Thanks for saying.

Edit:-

Tried mine and it works perfectly thankfully. Did you get yours off the internet or from the store?

[Fat Phil]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

To go from the reasonable amount of verisimilitude in MI1 to this completely OTT iteration is like Bond switching from Dr No to Octopussy in just one film. At least with Bond it felt like it'd had earned the right to do something a bit different with Moore after 10 years and 7 films but here it's a horrible miscalculation and I'm genuinely stunned that it didn't sink the whole franchise.

Lol. That's an excellent analogy.

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Always keep in mind that Geoffy Vision™ is different from normie vision, what was a constant distraction (or in other cases, a noticeable improvement) for me may not be all that noticeable to others. But if the Captain notices it you can be sure it's there so it's not just me crying wolf on this occasion.

I'll be honest, the inconsistent colours escaped my attention. But in my defence! - I spent a good 75% of the movie curled up in a ball with my eyes closed. True story.

[pottyaboutpotter1]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Watched Mi2. Looks like another decent new transfer on the face of it, plenty of soft shots etc etc but still a nice, crisp piece of celluloid when it's allowed to be (some shots tend to look a bit jittery, looks like a registration issue with one of the cameras used to shoot the film). However, the good Sky Captain was spot on about the colour grading before, I previously dismissed his concerns as he mentioned that the sky specifically keeps changing colour but it's not just the sky, the colour in general keeps changing from shot to shot to shot to shot, it's worst in the action sequences but still happens even in dialogue scenes.

Yes, if you look at the old BD or DVD then you'll see a similar phenom, particularly in the end fight between Hunt and Ambrose as the sky will cut from blue to white to turquoise, some clouds, lots of clouds, no clouds etc. But at least on that old HD transfer the skin tones remain fairly consistent within that changing backdrop, even with photochemical grading it's easy enough to keep track of skin tones as although the backdrops may change, people's faces don't and you can use that as your starting point.

But damn, this HDR grade is all over the place and some shots look so iffy they remind me of watching ungraded 'raw' material as skin tones can look very, very yellowy and the sky skews almost to a purple colour, the bit when Hunt approaches the helicopter just after putting Ambrose down (but before he shoots him) makes TC look like he had jaundice that day. It's very strange, and it's not the Dobly's fault because the HDR10 layer is graded exactly the same way, it's almost like whoever was grading this was laughing so hard at the absurdity of it all that they forgot to twiddle the knobs.

As for le film, holy hell it's still a stinker. It's so incredibly overwrought it's like watching a parody of a John Woo film, as well as feeling like 'Scary Movie does Mission Impossible' in general, and whenever Lisa Gerrard started wailing I fully expected Russell Crowe to walk on and starting waffling about life echoing in eternity. To go from the reasonable amount of verisimilitude in MI1 to this completely OTT iteration is like Bond switching from Dr No to Octopussy in just one film. At least with Bond it felt like it'd had earned the right to do something a bit different with Moore after 10 years and 7 films but here it's a horrible miscalculation and I'm genuinely stunned that it didn't sink the whole franchise. Instead it remains the highest grossing one out of all five films domestically

Mission Impossible 2 is a film that is so silly yet takes itself so seriously that you feel it must be a parody... but then you realise it isn't and the film really is taking itself this seriously. It's even hard to watch as a comedy.

[wildphantom]

Colour shifts in MI2 I noticed too. You can’t miss them.
Didn’t overly bother me, but it’s a slight blemish on an overall pretty great presentation.

[cornbread_1788]

Originally Posted by Bourne1886

I’m gonna try mine now. Thanks for saying.

Edit:-

Tried mine and it works perfectly thankfully. Did you get yours off the internet or from the store?

All 3 from the internet sealed.... Any chance to burn me a copy?

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by wildphantom

Colour shifts in MI2 I noticed too. You can’t miss them.
Didn’t overly bother me, but it’s a slight blemish on an overall pretty great presentation.

But isn't it source related?

[nick4Knight]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Today he doesn't really do his music, he has help for that.

This smacks of hater opinions that have maligned him so incorrectly for decades lol He's collaborated on pretty much every single piece of music he's ever done since the 80's when he did music with a band... This has always been his modus operandi. He isn't a traditional composer like a classically trained John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith "maestro" type.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by pottyaboutpotter1

Mission Impossible 2 is a film that is so silly yet takes itself so seriously that you feel it must be a parody... but then you realise it isn't and the film really is taking itself this seriously. It's even hard to watch as a comedy.

Dude, that is EXACTLY what I was thinking to myself today, I'm not kidding. I love much of Woo's HK output, as well as Hard Target, Broken Arrow and the majestic Face/Off so I'm no hater of the Wooniverse, but something that strikes me about those three Hollywood efforts is that they know how daft they are, Hard Target has JCVD punching out a snake for Christ's sake, and the line in Face/Off when Travolta-as-Castor bemoans his "ridiculous chin" is awesome.

I think a key point is that the world isn't at stake in any of those films (even Broken Arrow is a heist film, basically) so the level of sheer slow-mo silliness doesn't seem so mismatched, but on this movie they're genuinely playing it as straight as they can becuz evil maddman iz holdng da werld too ransum, resulting in Airplane! but without the laughs. When you pair those kinds of stakes with this kind of OTT nonsense - Cruise pulling off Street Fighter moves, literally, is daft beyond belief, I half expected a Dragon Punch or a Sonic Boom to come next - then you gotta go full Moore. Or, in place of dear old Rog, at least keep the actual exploitation angle by having lots of blood and squibs and whatnot but Mi2 has neither the self awareness nor the grue factor to qualify its extraordinarily overblown nature. Some people dig it for all of that, and that's cool, but for me it's a giant turd in the MI punchbowl.

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

But isn't it source related?

Sure, I reckon most movies would look like this...if they had a drunken orangutan in the grading suite. As I said, there are inconsistencies all over the place on the old transfer - no argument there whatsoever - as I'm sure there would be on the raw material of any given film, but there are still certain touchstones (no disney) like skin tones which remain fairly constant, yet the UHD throws any remaining pretences towards continuity out of the window and some shots really do look plain wrong.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Dude, that is EXACTLY what I was thinking to myself today, I'm not kidding. I love much of Woo's HK output, as well as Hard Target, Broken Arrow and the majestic Face/Off so I'm no hater of the Wooniverse, but something that strikes me about those three Hollywood efforts is that they know how daft they are, Hard Target has JCVD punching out a snake for Christ's sake, and the line in Face/Off when Travolta-as-Castor bemoans his "ridiculous chin" is awesome.

I think a key point is that the world isn't at stake in any of those films (even Broken Arrow is a heist film, basically) so the level of sheer slow-mo silliness doesn't seem so mismatched, but on this movie they're genuinely playing it as straight as they can becuz evil maddman iz holdng da werld too ransum, resulting in Airplane! but without the laughs. When you pair those kinds of stakes with this kind of OTT nonsense - Cruise pulling off Street Fighter movies, literally, is daft beyond belief, I half expected a Dragon Punch or a Sonic Boom to come next - then you gotta go full Moore. Or, in place of dear old Rog, at least keep the actual exploitation angle by having lots of blood and squibs and whatnot but Mi2 has neither the self awareness nor the grue factor to qualify its extraordinarily overblown nature. Some people dig it for all of that, and that's cool, but for me it's a giant turd in the MI punchbowl.


Sure, I reckon most movies would look like this...if they had a drunken orangutan in the grading suite. As I said, there are inconsistencies all over the place on the old transfer - no argument there whatsoever - but there are still certain touchstones (no disney) like skin tones which remain fairly constant, yet the UHD it throws any remaining pretences of continuity out of the window and some shots really do look plain wrong.

Woo is never about fine details (obvious stuntmen worse than True Lies) and the film was messed up by both the MPAA and Kubrick.

[Geoff D]

The MPAA trimmed a fair old bit out but it's not like the filmmakers didn't know that they were aiming for a PG-13 (a Die Hard 4.0 situation this ain't) so IMO the blame still lies squarely with Cruise & Co. for how choppy the action is in the final version.

As for fine details, the stunties are one thing (though they're not actually all that bad in Mi2, they're nothing like as blatant as on Face/Off) but even Woo's quick and dirty HK films have better consistency of colour than this UHD. It's a "source thing" insomuch as virtually all films will look this uneven on their raw digital capture or camera negative, it's the subsequent grading of these elements that's gone wrong here IMO.