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Old 11-20-2016, 05:30 PM   #1161
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I'm just going to wait and see what happens in the near future with the 3D restoration/film rights over here.
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Old 11-20-2016, 07:14 PM   #1162
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Sucks that the Blus are region locked.
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Old 11-20-2016, 08:18 PM   #1163
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I could have sworn I read that the 3D version had premiered in France a year or two ago. My memory is shot. Damn old age.
It did. Cannes.
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Old 11-21-2016, 09:30 PM   #1164
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Before the shit hits the fan...

I haven't received my set yet so I can't confirm this at 100% but according to some screenshots that surface today, it sadly looks like Midnight Factory did messed up the restoration work that was done by LVR on the 4K restoration of the European Cut of Dawn of the Dead by screwing up the encode. Usually, when an encoding is done properly, you can't tell the difference between the ProRes 4444 and the x264 and I'm talking texture and colors here. But right now, when I compare the original ProRes 4444 with the screenshots I was provided earlier today that supposedly come from Midnight Factory's blu-ray, I can only come up with the conclusion that they did screwed up the encoding as the texture is quite different and the gamma has also been altered making the image a little less contrasty.

So please, keep in mind that the encoding on this release doesn't reflect the restoration work that was done prior to the encoding and that the people who are the most pissed off about this are the ones who dedicated MANY MANY hours restoring our / your favorite flick and that includes me.

These are supposed to be two consecutive frames from Midnight Factory's blu-ray. The first frame is noisy when there's no noise on the ProRes 4444 master itself and the second frame is softer (about 30%) when the ProRes 444 is not.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/191409

Now let's hope an other label will step in and release it the way it should be.

I'm pissed more than all of you together.

EDIT: I received my set and can confirm the encoding is not that good.

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Old 11-21-2016, 10:38 PM   #1165
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Before the shit hits the fan...

I haven't received my set yet so I can't confirm this at 100% but according to some screenshots that surface today, it sadly looks like Midnight Factory did messed up the restoration work that was done by LVR on the 4K restoration of the European Cut of Dawn of the Dead by screwing up the encode. Usually, when an encoding is done properly, you can't tell the difference between the ProRes 4444 and the x264 and I'm talking texture and colors here. But right now, when I compare the original ProRes 4444 with the screenshots I was provided earlier today that supposedly come from Midnight Factory's blu-ray, I can only come up with the conclusion that they did screwed up the encoding as the texture is quite different and the gamma has also been altered.

So please, keep in mind that the encoding on this release doesn't reflect the restoration work that was done prior to the encoding and that the people who are the most pissed off about this are the ones who dedicated MANY MANY hours restoring our / your favorite flick and that includes me.

These are supposed to be two consecutive frames from Midnight Factory's blu-ray. The first frame is noisy when there's no noise on the ProRes 4444 master itself and the second frame is softer (about 30%) when the ProRes 444 is not.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/191409

Now let's hope an other label will step in and release it the way it should be.

I'm pissed more than all of you together.
Ha ha, can't catch a break with this movie, even on a fancy restoration of the worst cut.
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Old 11-22-2016, 10:11 AM   #1166
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Danny, I get that you've already qualified your complaint by saying that encodes don't usually look any different from the master but still: you've been looking at high-quality master files day in day out so I'm not surprised that any changes on the lossy compression (turning a 500 Mb/s 4:4:4 source into, say, a 35 Mb/s 4:2:0 encode) are sticking out like the sorest of thumbs, even though it still looks delicious to us mere mortals.

All things considered, given what we've had for Dawn over the years, I'd still take the second pic every day of the week and twice on Sundays and the first grab is even better, it looks thoroughly filmic (in terms of blu-ray, not studio masters) to me. Perhaps the first one is an I-frame which is why there's a slight difference in texture to the next one? And in any case the 'noise' has the classic yellow/blue mottling that usually indicates film grain.

I'm still dying to see this up and running!!
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Old 11-22-2016, 01:49 PM   #1167
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Before the shit hits the fan...

I haven't received my set yet so I can't confirm this at 100% but according to some screenshots that surface today, it sadly looks like Midnight Factory did messed up the restoration work that was done by LVR on the 4K restoration of the European Cut of Dawn of the Dead by screwing up the encode. Usually, when an encoding is done properly, you can't tell the difference between the ProRes 4444 and the x264 and I'm talking texture and colors here. But right now, when I compare the original ProRes 4444 with the screenshots I was provided earlier today that supposedly come from Midnight Factory's blu-ray, I can only come up with the conclusion that they did screwed up the encoding as the texture is quite different and the gamma has also been altered.

So please, keep in mind that the encoding on this release doesn't reflect the restoration work that was done prior to the encoding and that the people who are the most pissed off about this are the ones who dedicated MANY MANY hours restoring our / your favorite flick and that includes me.

These are supposed to be two consecutive frames from Midnight Factory's blu-ray. The first frame is noisy when there's no noise on the ProRes 4444 master itself and the second frame is softer (about 30%) when the ProRes 444 is not.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/191409

Now let's hope an other label will step in and release it the way it should be.

I'm pissed more than all of you together.
Hope some more info comes out about this before release. If it's indeed bad, I'd like to be able to cancel my preorder...
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Old 11-22-2016, 04:40 PM   #1168
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Sucks that the Blus are region locked.
Is this confirmed? Sometimes the back of the box will say one region, but the discs will in reality be region free.
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Old 11-22-2016, 06:26 PM   #1169
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about the "standard bluray set", no forced sub on english track, I have info from a guy who have it.....
my copy is shipped, I will check also it, but for zone ABC I will not able to test it out zone B
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Old 11-22-2016, 09:10 PM   #1170
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Danny, I get that you've already qualified your complaint by saying that encodes don't usually look any different from the master but still: you've been looking at high-quality master files day in day out so I'm not surprised that any changes on the lossy compression (turning a 500 Mb/s 4:4:4 source into, say, a 35 Mb/s 4:2:0 encode) are sticking out like the sorest of thumbs, even though it still looks delicious to us mere mortals.

All things considered, given what we've had for Dawn over the years, I'd still take the second pic every day of the week and twice on Sundays and the first grab is even better, it looks thoroughly filmic (in terms of blu-ray, not studio masters) to me. Perhaps the first one is an I-frame which is why there's a slight difference in texture to the next one? And in any case the 'noise' has the classic yellow/blue mottling that usually indicates film grain.

I'm still dying to see this up and running!!
For instance, i know well, this shoot has a jitter so looking frame by frame focus is not continuos.
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Old 11-22-2016, 09:44 PM   #1171
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For instance, i know well, this shoot has a jitter so looking frame by frame focus is not continuos.
It's not a reason for the grain to disappear on the second frame.

There should be grain even when the content of the frame is soft just like the screenshot below.

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Old 11-22-2016, 11:18 PM   #1172
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I'm sure the Blu-ray looks great, because the Divimax Anchor Bay DVD I have of this title looks wickedly clean and sharp (I won't double dip on this, though, because I'm actually more of a fan of the remake).
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Old 11-22-2016, 11:29 PM   #1173
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Get out of here and dont come back
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Old 11-22-2016, 11:31 PM   #1174
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Hope some more info comes out about this before release. If it's indeed bad, I'd like to be able to cancel my preorder...
How do the screen grabs look to you? Like them? Not like them?
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Old 11-22-2016, 11:50 PM   #1175
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God bless you.
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Old 11-22-2016, 11:52 PM   #1176
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For most people it's gonna be just fine. For the die-hard fan, they're will be complains about the encoding. In any case, this is the best looking version of Dawn of the Dead on the market, and by far.
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Old 11-22-2016, 11:54 PM   #1177
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Mate, I'm as die-hard as nitpickers get.....and those caps look FANTASTIC.
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Old 11-23-2016, 12:09 AM   #1178
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For most people it's gonna be just fine. For the die-hard fan, they're will be complains about the encoding. In any case, this is the best looking version of Dawn of the Dead on the market, and by far.
That's all I needed to hear. I'm in!
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Old 11-23-2016, 12:45 AM   #1179
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How is the Extended Cut?
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Old 11-23-2016, 01:30 PM   #1180
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I confirm , on standard bluray european cut disc, no forced ita subs with english track
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