Dawn of the Dead (1978) - OUT OF PRINT

[Jay H.]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

You are incorrect. Most physical buyers are A: Not region free and B: Not 4K ready. That's just not the average physical media buyers, but a lot of the hardcore buyers on this forum.

Sure, you can become 4K ready or become region free, but that is in fact a hassle and make this release more inaccessible.

So yes, Dawn of the 1978 is not easily accessible currently in the US. Physical or streaming.

I have two region-free players, and I still agree its inconvenient and expensive to get the Second Sight Blu-ray of this movie. I have Umbrella's release and that will do just fine unless I can get the Second Sight release cheap and easy.

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by Kyle15

I absolutely did not make a "most physical buyers" statement. Please hold off on the strawmen!

It's open to sale to anyone who wants it. That's the point.



Getting a 4k player under $100 is not a hassle nor difficult, neither is going region free of which there are multiple ways to do so.



It's available online for anyone to purchase who wants to get it. There are new 4k buyers and region free buyers every day. The state of whoever is unwilling to buy does not change or alter the fact a physical object is readily available for whomever wants it. The hoop you're jumping through is ridiculous.

The lack of agency you project and infantilization of other people over buying movies is incredibly inane and I recommend against it but whatever floats your boat mister!

This isn't subjective. The film isn't easy to access in the United States. That is a fact. Plain and simple. There is no argument to be made, yet you needlessly continue to try and make one.

Someone has to spend hundreds of dollars to watch the film and can only order from from specific retailers. They can't order from Best Buy, Wal-Mart, etc, and there are no major retailers in the ENTIRE country that carry it and MOST speciality shops won't have it either. By definition, that makes it inaccessible to most correct? With your logic almost anything can be accessed as long as someone has enough money? I would argue that if most people can't justify the expenditure then by that notion alone it becomes inaccessible. Most don't consider a Rolex something they can access easily do they?

Your platitudinous rhetoric does not mask that you are simply incorrect. The movie is not easily accessible in the United States on the physical format or streaming. 'Nuff said.

[BladeRunner2007]

Originally Posted by Jay H.

I have two region-free players, and I still agree its inconvenient and expensive to get the Second Sight Blu-ray of this movie. I have Umbrella's release and that will do just fine unless I can get the Second Sight release cheap and easy.

I imported the Second Sight 4K UHD set from amazon for only 40 dollars and it took only 2 or 3 days to arrive in absolute pristine condition. No extra costs. That is cheap, easy and fast.

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

I imported the Second Sight 4K UHD set from amazon for only 40 dollars and it took only 2 or 3 days to arrive in absolute pristine condition. No extra costs. That is cheap, easy and fast.

That is only because there is a secondary seller on Amazon selling it. That can change daily, versus being able to depend on Amazon direct for a longer period of time if there was a US release.

[BladeRunner2007]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

That is only because there is a secondary seller on Amazon selling it. That can change daily, versus being able to depend on Amazon direct for a longer period of time if there was a US release.

It was sold and shipped directly from amazon.co.uk

[aaron2970]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

This isn't subjective. The film isn't easy to access in the United States. That is a fact. Plain and simple. There is no argument to be made, yet you needlessly continue to try and make one.

Someone has to spend hundreds of dollars to watch the film and can only order from from specific retailers. They can't order from Best Buy, Wal-Mart, etc, and there are no major retailers in the ENTIRE country that carry it and MOST speciality shops won't have it either. By definition, that makes it inaccessible to most correct? With your logic almost anything can be accessed as long as someone has enough money? I would argue that if most people can't justify the expenditure then by that notion alone it becomes inaccessible. Most don't consider a Rolex something they can access easily do they?

Your platitudinous rhetoric does not mask that you are simply incorrect. The movie is not easily accessible in the United States on the physical format or streaming. 'Nuff said.

can't just buy a dvd and enjoy it till you run into some money huh? zavvi and diabolik are us distributers that sell it-a ton of folks on ebay sell it -cheap.you just like to whine i guess.if it came out for $5.00 you'd whine you need it for $3.00.

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

It was sold and shipped directly from amazon.co.uk

I just checked and shipping would be nearly $15 bucks and I'm a Prime member. Which isn't a whole lot, but it might be for some.

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by aaron2970

can't just buy a dvd and enjoy it till you run into some money huh? zavvi and diabolik are us distributers that sell it-a ton of folks on ebay sell it -cheap.you just like to whine i guess.if it came out for $5.00 you'd whine you need it for $3.00.

I never said it was expensive for ME. I spend over a $1000 on movies a month. For many, that's a lot. For many, the Dawn of the Dead release is costly due to the film itself, and equipment required. Simple isn't it?

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

There's a difference between much and long... Saying that you have wanted something for years doesn't mean you will pay an arm and a leg for it.

Only 59 percent of you said it's better than Night of the Living Dead.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/poll.php?d...ts&pollid=6545

And as everyone has shown you several times now, it doesn't cost "an arm and a leg," so that's not an issue.

[Mister_Kidd]

My second favorite movie ever. Pre ordered the Second Sight LE set from Diabolik the second it was available for purchase. Without question the most I’ve ever paid for a single title and 100% worth every penny. Not judging anyone, movies are expensive and you have to make choices about what you grab. I will say that this is THE definitive edition of the best zombie movie ever. And IMO is worth owning whatever the cost.

[Jay H.]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

I never said it was expensive for ME. I spend over a $1000 on movies a month. For many, that's a lot. For many, the Dawn of the Dead release is costly due to the film itself, and equipment required. Simple isn't it?

There are many who don't seem to grasp the notion of "it was easy and affordable for ME to get a Blu-ray/4K copy of Dawn of the Dead". Hey, that's great. Would it be easy and affordable for everybody?

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by Mister_Kidd

My second favorite movie ever. Pre ordered the Second Sight LE set from Diabolik the second it was available for purchase. Without question the most I’ve ever paid for a single title and 100% worth every penny. Not judging anyone, movies are expensive and you have to make choices about what you grab. I will say that this is THE definitive edition of the best zombie movie ever. And IMO is worth owning whatever the cost.

Curious now. What’s your favorite film?

[Mister_Kidd]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Curious now. What’s your favorite film?

Big Trouble in Little China

[BladeRunner2007]

Originally Posted by Mister_Kidd

My second favorite movie ever. Pre ordered the Second Sight LE set from Diabolik the second it was available for purchase. Without question the most I’ve ever paid for a single title and 100% worth every penny. Not judging anyone, movies are expensive and you have to make choices about what you grab. I will say that this is THE definitive edition of the best zombie movie ever. And IMO is worth owning whatever the cost.

I actually own 3(!) copies of the LE set, because I wanted it to be in absolute perfect condition, plus the recently ordered 4K UHD set.

[BladeRunner2007]

Originally Posted by Mister_Kidd

Big Trouble in Little China

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

This isn't subjective. The film isn't easy to access in the United States. That is a fact. Plain and simple. There is no argument to be made, yet you needlessly continue to try and make one.

Someone has to spend hundreds of dollars to watch the film and can only order from from specific retailers.

$50 on Amazon is not hundreds of dollars for the people who want to own it and already have the means to play it. This is what we call an objective fact. It does not cost hundreds of dollars to pursue watching. It can cost over $100 if one lacks the equipment; in that case, that's their call to find it worth getting into the hobby. Your claim is ridiculous.

If $50 is too much for some people then that's their call. If getting the necessary equipment is too much, then that's also their call. Not everyone can afford everything. I got equipped for 4k on the cheap. I went region free for $7 with a top menu trick player, and hacked my 10 year old PS3 for free. Not everyone is made of money. That does not change the fact the film is being offered for sale online internationally for those who have the means to get it.

They can't order from Best Buy, Wal-Mart, etc, and there are no major retailers in the ENTIRE country that carry it and MOST speciality shops won't have it either. By definition, that makes it inaccessible to most correct?

Time for me to move the goalpost now:

Most boutique label releases are not sold in store at Wal-Mart and Best Buy. There are folks who cannot purchase anything online or consider it a hassle. This now means boutique label releases are not readily available for anyone to purchase because of these peoples' perception and buying situation.

With your logic almost anything can be accessed as long as someone has enough money?

Is the thing in question available to purchase for anybody who wishes to do so? Dawn of The Dead is, in fact, available to purchase online for anybody who wishes to do so. So no, not everything and anything can be accessed if one has enough money. Dawn of The Dead is available for roughly $50 shipped online, so that means whoever wishes to get it and is equipped to play it can do so.

I would argue that if most people can't justify the expenditure then by that notion alone it becomes inaccessible. Most don't consider a Rolex something they can access easily do they?

If Bob down the street doesn't have a computer and has to spend $100 to get to town to buy a movie that's not carried in stores that means it's not readily available for anybody to purchase, because of his personal perception.

I can't afford a Rolex, this means that they're not available for sale online internationally from multiple sources to whomever has the means to purchase one.

2+2=5 as well.

Your platitudinous rhetoric does not mask that you are simply incorrect. The movie is not easily accessible in the United States on the physical format or streaming. 'Nuff said.

The movie is readily available online internationally for anybody who wishes to purchase it. It isn't readily available streaming in the USA. This is fact. Your inane goalpost moving which hinges on personal opinion of a selection of people does not change that.

[El_Fez]

God, y'all would lose your goddamned minds if you had to pay 150 bucks for a CAV LD of Aliens like I did.

[aaron2970]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

I actually own 3(!) copies of the LE set, because I wanted it to be in absolute perfect condition, plus the recently ordered 4K UHD set.

your collection of dawn of the dead i believe surpasses mine.i have the anchor bay dvd set-the anchor blu ray-2 of the limited edition 4k -1 regular 4 k-the 4 blu ray set number 464 of 666 made the steel book lenticular blu ray 156 min version-which is in the ltd box-a 2 disc dvd set zombie dawn of the dead special edition astro records and film work-in german-a 2 dvd set by xt steel book lenticular cover with the 139 minute and 155 minute cut signed by the guy that killed willie-an extended mall cut-a press book-it all began after seeing the movie in 1979 and grabbing a bootleg vhs a few weeks later.and i continue to search and buy.

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by Kyle15

$50 on Amazon is not hundreds of dollars for the people who want to own it and already have the means to play it. This is what we call an objective fact. It does not cost hundreds of dollars to pursue watching. It can cost over $100 if one lacks the equipment; in that case, that's their call to find it worth getting into the hobby. Your claim is ridiculous.

If $50 is too much for some people then that's their call. If getting the necessary equipment is too much, then that's also their call. Not everyone can afford everything. I got equipped for 4k on the cheap. I went region free for $7 with a top menu trick player, and hacked my 10 year old PS3 for free. Not everyone is made of money. That does not change the fact the film is being offered for sale online internationally for those who have the means to get it.


Time for me to move the goalpost now:

Most boutique label releases are not sold in store at Wal-Mart and Best Buy. There are folks who cannot purchase anything online or consider it a hassle. This now means boutique label releases are not readily available for anyone to purchase because of these peoples' perception and buying situation.



Is the thing in question available to purchase for anybody who wishes to do so? Dawn of The Dead is, in fact, available to purchase online for anybody who wishes to do so. So no, not everything and anything can be accessed if one has enough money. Dawn of The Dead is available for roughly $50 shipped online, so that means whoever wishes to get it and is equipped to play it can do so.



If Bob down the street doesn't have a computer and has to spend $100 to get to town to buy a movie that's not carried in stores that means it's not readily available for anybody to purchase, because of his personal perception.

I can't afford a Rolex, this means that they're not available for sale online internationally from multiple sources to whomever has the means to purchase one.

2+2=5 as well.



The movie is readily available online internationally for anybody who wishes to purchase it. It isn't readily available streaming in the USA. This is fact. Your inane goalpost moving which hinges on personal opinion of a selection of people does not change that.

I’m glad you’re invested in this issue and have decided to take this to the next level of fanatical, but you’re still incorrect. You’ve decided to stick your head in the sand are trying push the head of others down with you.

Your claims are becoming ludicrous by the very second. You can buy most boutique label titles from Target.com, BestBuy.com, and yes the mighty Wal-Mart.com. Hell, I’ve bought Arrow, Kino, and Criterion from all of them.

It’s a shame that the film is inaccessible as there are a ton of potential viewers who aren’t seeing the film, due to how difficult it is to access the film. I’m proud of your commitment, but the simple fact remains. You’re wrong. At every level.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by Jay H.

There are many who don't seem to grasp the notion of "it was easy and affordable for ME to get a Blu-ray/4K copy of Dawn of the Dead". Hey, that's great. Would it be easy and affordable for everybody?

I mean, at $30-$40, yes, it is easy and affordable if you regularly spend money on films. It's just priorities as to what's important.