At Bits now - Sony CEO Stringer's complete statement - Blu-ray Forum

almy · 11-12-2007, 11:59 PM

At Bill Hun't latest post - just up now - you can read the full transcript of what Stringer said regarding Blu and Hd and "stalemate"

bluperch · 11-13-2007, 12:08 AM

Interesting.

whippersnapper · 11-13-2007, 12:10 AM

Thanks for the heads up. Here's a link. Now, I'm off to read it.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

KingDeezie · 11-13-2007, 12:17 AM

Good read.

Stringer really didn't say anything we didn't already know....

Its ashame that this format war is a direct result of Hubris, I would have much rather had a unified format where I could get all of my movies on one format....

I'm sure Toshiba just wanted to maintain royalties of some sort....

But until that time, I shall remain true to Blue...

blu2 · 11-13-2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KingDeezie

I'm sure Toshiba just wanted to maintain royalties of some sort....

Not just them.

krispydude · 11-13-2007, 12:21 AM

much better. it seems stringer really knows his stuff regarding blu-ray.

Rike255 · 11-13-2007, 12:23 AM

I like the part about disk-security not being in Microsoft's best interest. Arse holes.

Nicadian · 11-13-2007, 12:23 AM

wow, what a big difference from the article posted from the press.

tru2blu707 · 11-13-2007, 12:36 AM

even if it wasnt a unified format....if paramount didnt take the bait....it would have been over already

Esox50 · 11-13-2007, 12:44 AM

IMHO, The most sgnificant comment Stringer made...
"Oddly, the studios kind of liked it (i.e. the format war)for a while. They were able to leverage one of us against each other. But in the end, it's counterproductive."

I just get this sense that it was "fun" for a while, but Hollywood is now starting to realize the danger inherent in two formats going forward. EVERYONE (us, retailers, studios, CEs) could lose out. I hope the retailers are getting sick of the format war too.

I expect that by the middle of next year, some studio decisions and bold retailer decisions will be made re: moving to one format.

Deane Johnson · 11-13-2007, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Esox50

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I expect that by the middle of next year, some studio decisions and bold retailer decisions will be made re: moving to one format.

Now would be the time for them to make that move, and to make it to Blu while HD-DVD is on the ropes.

Esox50 · 11-13-2007, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Deane Johnson

Now would be the time for them to make that move, and to make it to Blu while HD-DVD is on the ropes.

In the middle of the 4th quarter?

No, they'll see how the big 4Q goes, and take it from there...

richteer · 11-13-2007, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Esox50

I expect that by the middle of next year, some studio decisions and bold retailer decisions will be made re: moving to one format.

Same here--though I think (hope!) it'll happen sooner. I think they'll rake as much $$$ in from both side through Xmas, then pull the plug on the losing format (HD DVD, natch) to encourage an expeditious end to the war (which is in everyone except Toshiba's best interests).

If someone really big, like Best Buy or Frys, follows Blockbuster's and AHTA's(?) lead and announces Blu exclusivity, the other dominos will fall *real* fast.

blu2 · 11-13-2007, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Esox50

In the middle of the 4th quarter?

No, they'll see how the big 4Q goes, and take it from there...

Even end of 4Q is too early. No one is going to move until they the impact of 4Q hardware sales on media sales, and they would not necessarily know that for another quarter.

I doubt we will see any studios blinking and making changes for quite some time.

whoami · 11-13-2007, 01:00 AM

how come every web site is not telling this story

Esox50 · 11-13-2007, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by blu2

Even end of 4Q is too early.

That's why I said middle of next year in my original post.

Make no mistake about it though. At least a few of the studios have talked about seeing whether cheap HD DVD hardware this 4Q would make a difference in terms of software sales. We won't see that impact until early next year, if at all.

I think April/May of next year is going to be interesting...

Blu Titan · 11-13-2007, 01:19 AM

This is very interesting. In Japanese culture it is very important to "save face". Mr. Stringer alludes to the Paramount payoff and the sale of HD players for $99 as an attempt to save face by Toshiba. The statements of the studios initially liking the idea of Sony and Toshiba facing off, an initital agreement should have taken place, and the statement of "it dosen't mean all that" appear to open the door for Toshiba to "save face" and reach an agreement. Humm I wonder what is really going on

Spankey · 11-13-2007, 01:23 AM

When are Toshiba's "next gen" players supposed to be released. If there is any more sell off of inventory, I'd think something is going on. I still think something is going on. Universal is being VERY quiet and now it is Paramount justifying their "position".

The stalemate comment seemed more in regards to studio support in light of the Paramount bribe. Things were heading to a forgone conclusion and Paramount's taking of the bribe, continued the two format "stalemate".

Spankey · 11-13-2007, 01:46 AM

Not sure how to take the Ron Sanders comment. Is he a great guy and that he is not trying to bring the hammer down on HD-DVD? It also seems like all of Warner is ready to go Blu. Universal is taking a more serious look at going, at least, neutral this time.

Esox50 · 11-13-2007, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Spankey

Not sure how to take the Ron Sanders comment. Is he a great guy and that he is not trying to bring the hammer down on HD-DVD? It also seems like all of Warner is ready to go Blu. Universal is taking a more serious look at going, at least, neutral this time.

Word is that he's just a "nice guy". Also says that if it weren't for him at this point in time, WB would be dumping HD DVD. Pair this with Nickerson leaving...makes sense.

As far as Universal is concerned, they won't be neutral yet. But they are obviously preparing for at least one scenario...

11-12-2007, 11:59 PM	#1
almy Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	At Bits now - Sony CEO Stringer's complete statement At Bill Hun't latest post - just up now - you can read the full transcript of what Stringer said regarding Blu and Hd and "stalemate"

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11-13-2007, 12:08 AM	#2
bluperch Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Lakewood, CO	Interesting.

11-13-2007, 12:10 AM	#3
whippersnapper Special Member Member since:Jan 2007	Thanks for the heads up. Here's a link. Now, I'm off to read it. http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

11-13-2007, 12:17 AM	#4
KingDeezie Active Member Member since:Mar 2007	Good read. Stringer really didn't say anything we didn't already know.... Its ashame that this format war is a direct result of Hubris, I would have much rather had a unified format where I could get all of my movies on one format.... I'm sure Toshiba just wanted to maintain royalties of some sort.... But until that time, I shall remain true to Blue...

11-13-2007, 12:21 AM	#6
krispydude Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Phoenix, AZ	much better. it seems stringer really knows his stuff regarding blu-ray.

11-13-2007, 12:23 AM	#7
Rike255 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:AB, Canada PSNetwork: Rike255 Home Theater Gallery:44 Blu-ray collection:57	I like the part about disk-security not being in Microsoft's best interest. Arse holes.

11-13-2007, 12:23 AM	#8
Nicadian Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Canada	wow, what a big difference from the article posted from the press.

11-13-2007, 12:36 AM	#9
tru2blu707 Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007	even if it wasnt a unified format....if paramount didnt take the bait....it would have been over already

11-13-2007, 12:44 AM	#10
Esox50 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 4K collection:416 Blu-ray collection:488	IMHO, The most sgnificant comment Stringer made... "Oddly, the studios kind of liked it (i.e. the format war)for a while. They were able to leverage one of us against each other. But in the end, it's counterproductive." I just get this sense that it was "fun" for a while, but Hollywood is now starting to realize the danger inherent in two formats going forward. EVERYONE (us, retailers, studios, CEs) could lose out. I hope the retailers are getting sick of the format war too. I expect that by the middle of next year, some studio decisions and bold retailer decisions will be made re: moving to one format.

11-13-2007, 01:00 AM	#15
whoami Junior Member Member since:Aug 2007	how come every web site is not telling this story

11-13-2007, 01:19 AM	#17
Blu Titan Super Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Edo, Land of the Samurai Home Theater Gallery:42 4K collection:41 Blu-ray collection:2864 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:92	This is very interesting. In Japanese culture it is very important to "save face". Mr. Stringer alludes to the Paramount payoff and the sale of HD players for $99 as an attempt to save face by Toshiba. The statements of the studios initially liking the idea of Sony and Toshiba facing off, an initital agreement should have taken place, and the statement of "it dosen't mean all that" appear to open the door for Toshiba to "save face" and reach an agreement. Humm I wonder what is really going on

11-13-2007, 01:23 AM	#18
Spankey Power Member Member since:Oct 2006	When are Toshiba's "next gen" players supposed to be released. If there is any more sell off of inventory, I'd think something is going on. I still think something is going on. Universal is being VERY quiet and now it is Paramount justifying their "position". The stalemate comment seemed more in regards to studio support in light of the Paramount bribe. Things were heading to a forgone conclusion and Paramount's taking of the bribe, continued the two format "stalemate".

11-13-2007, 01:46 AM	#19
Spankey Power Member Member since:Oct 2006	Not sure how to take the Ron Sanders comment. Is he a great guy and that he is not trying to bring the hammer down on HD-DVD? It also seems like all of Warner is ready to go Blu. Universal is taking a more serious look at going, at least, neutral this time.

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