The Criterion Collection

[Cremildo]

Winona Ryder’s Closet Picks - YouTube

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

That is funny. The actual closet is for sure at their NYC office though. Someone in the reddit comments likely has the right idea, that it's part of a CC40 promo. I would guess they're making a mobile pop-up closet that they'll tour around NYC, and perhaps other places.

I wonder if I will need a note from my Mom saying it's ok for me to pick up SALO like I used to need at the weekly Bookmobile visit when I was a kid in the 60's and I wanted to check out an Ian Fleming Bond novel.

[jcs913]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

Maybe Criterion could work in a trip to Michigan to meet Criterion enthusiasts and to take advantage of the 10 cent bottle deposit.

Probably not yet. I don't think Kramer and Newman have worked out the math for it.

[traths]

Originally Posted by Fadeaway189

Do you think Blonde would be a good release for Criterion to get ahold of?

Are you talking about the one with Ana De Armas?

[traths]

I didn't go crazy with Criterions 4K sale but I did pick up a couple titles.

[mande2013]

Originally Posted by Professor Echo

I'm with you. I don't think giving Criterion's inherent release delays a pass simply because the technology changed in the interim justifies the practice. I'm not a fan of withholding titles from the public for any reason, let alone unknown and/or obscure reasons. I'm sure sooner or later we will see most Criterion Blus get upgraded to 4K, same as they did for Blu, so all the long waits for announcements and releases have accomplished is possibly preventing eventual double dipping, which ain't bad! Actually, that's the best, most worthy advantage of sitting on titles and getting the first release done right AS IS. So I guess I can't debate the point too much since I wish KINO had been practicing the same philosophy instead of rushing releases out too soon and now cluttering the waters with "improved" re-releases.

Do you actually think *most* Criterion blu-rays will be upgraded to UHD eventually? I’m skeptical, considering the more niche market and the higher production costs for a UHD release, so I definitely think there’s a plateau of sorts. I don’t expect most of the WCP titles, the Czech New Wave films, and stuff like Muriel, Les Rendez-Vous d’Anna, and Every Man for Himself to ever make it to UHD as an example, but who knows. I don’t think a “long march through the Criterion back catalog” was ever really in the cards for the 4K format like it was for Blu-ray.

On a more biased note, I also just don’t think UHD for a lot of these “deep catalog arthouse” titles is even necessary. It’s a miracle they’re on Blu-ray to begin with.

Over time, 1080p Blu-ray releases became relatively cheap to produce, which was allowed a lot of these niche arthouse titles to make it to the format. That hasn’t really happened with UHD…yet.

[jw007]

Originally Posted by Cremildo

Winona Ryder’s Closet Picks - YouTube

Winona Ryder is one of my favorite actresses and the fact that 20% of the films she exited from the closet with were Jim Jarmusch films makes me even happier and validates my cinematic infatuation with her.

[Bolo Seagull]

Do any of you know of any reasons why 'Y tu mamá también' wouldn't receive a 4K upgrade ?

This is one I would like to see get upgraded. But if there's some reason why it is strongly unlikely, I'll probably just go in for the blu-ray soon.

[FirstDayBuyBrandon]

Originally Posted by Bolo Seagull

Do any of you know of any reasons why 'Y tu mamá también' wouldn't receive a 4K upgrade ?

This is one I would like to see get upgraded. But if there's some reason why it is strongly unlikely, I'll probably just go in for the blu-ray soon.

I would make that a First Day Buy!!

Also, when are they coming out with more Kurosawa? Stray Dog, The Bad Sleep Well, Drunken Angel, even a Red Beard upgrade would all be First Day Buys!! Where are we at, Criterion?

[MifuneFan]

So, this is interesting. Criterion will be releasing Godzilla on 4K in the UK as well, but they will also be getting a separate Blu-ray. And not only will it come in a plastic case, it's stated to be sourced from the new 4K restoration. Criterion aren't re-releasing a standalone BD in the US, and their M.O. has usually been to include the old BD with their 4K releases, so that UK BD may be the only way to get the 4K restoration on Blu-ray from Criterion.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Godzilla-Cr...=UTF8&qid=&sr=

BLU-RAY SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES

• New 4K digital restoration, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack
• High-definition digital restoration of Godzilla, King of the Monsters, Terry Morse’s 1956 reworking of the original, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack
• Audio commentary for both movies by film historian David Kalat
• Interviews with actors Akira Takarada and Haruo Nakajima and special effects technicians Yoshio Irie and Eizo Kaimai
• Interview with legendary Godzilla score composer Akira Ifukube
• Featurette detailing Godzilla’s photographic effects, introduced by special effects director Koichi Kawakita and special effects photographer Motoyoshi Tomioka
• Interview with Japanese-film critic Tadao Sato
• The Unluckiest Dragon, an illustrated audio essay featuring historian Greg Pflugfelder describing the tragic fate of the fishing vessel Daigo Fukuryu Maru, a real-life event that inspired Godzilla
• Trailers
• PLUS: An essay by critic J. Hoberman

Cover by Bill Sienkiewicz

[Watershipdownisgood]

Originally Posted by FirstDayBuyBrandon

I would make that a First Day Buy!!

Also, when are they coming out with more Kurosawa? Stray Dog, The Bad Sleep Well, Drunken Angel, even a Red Beard upgrade would all be First Day Buys!! Where are we at, Criterion?

More Kurosawa stuff is definitely coming next year, or we could see a couple of Kurosawa new to Blu-Ray titles in December I doubt it as I’m leaning towards a Simple Plan being put out from Criterion just like with Paper Moon in November. However, I would love to be wrong on the new to Blu-Ray Kurosawa stuff not coming out till next year as December would be great. I’m not going to lie all those Kurosawa titles would be first day buys for me too as I also want all four of those titles too so bad.

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by mande2013

Do you actually think *most* Criterion blu-rays will be upgraded to UHD eventually? I’m skeptical, considering the more niche market and the higher production costs for a UHD release, so I definitely think there’s a plateau of sorts. I don’t expect most of the WCP titles, the Czech New Wave films, and stuff like Muriel, Les Rendez-Vous d’Anna, and Every Man for Himself to ever make it to UHD as an example, but who knows. I don’t think a “long march through the Criterion back catalog” was ever really in the cards for the 4K format like it was for Blu-ray.

On a more biased note, I also just don’t think UHD for a lot of these “deep catalog arthouse” titles is even necessary. It’s a miracle they’re on Blu-ray to begin with.

Over time, 1080p Blu-ray releases became relatively cheap to produce, which was allowed a lot of these niche arthouse titles to make it to the format. That hasn’t really happened with UHD…yet.

I don't disagree with any of this and was really only applying a broad, general statement about Criterion upgrading everything as a ballpark possibility should 4K continue to stretch its appeal. I'm not sure Criterion would ever jump on the Limited Edition, useless swag deluxe editions that are keeping some labels afloat right now, but I wouldn't rule it out either. Of course, you are right that much of their lesser output will never see 4K, but I'm pretty sure a lot of their Blu titles will. Once labels and retailers see that customers will submit to double and triple dipping, they are not shy about shoving them in that direction.

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

So, this is interesting. Criterion will be releasing Godzilla on 4K in the UK as well, but they will also be getting a separate Blu-ray. And not only will it come in a plastic case, it's stated to be sourced from the new 4K restoration. Criterion aren't re-releasing a standalone BD in the US, and their M.O. has usually been to include the old BD with their 4K releases, so that UK BD may be the only way to get the 4K restoration on Blu-ray from Criterion.

Could TOHO have different limitations imposed on UK releases than the USA?

[dwk]

That could be a mistake in the listing. Some that is successful in getting replies from Criterion should email and ask.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by dwk

That could be a mistake in the listing. Some that is successful in getting replies from Criterion should email and ask.

If it's a mistake, that would be such a lame move to release the movie individually on BD in the UK the same day as the 4K, and it turns out to be the old dated transfer. I might reach out to Criterion to see if I could get any confirmation on whether the included BD with the US 4K is a new disc, and also about that UK BD.

[DimitriL]

Originally Posted by Professor Echo

I don't disagree with any of this and was really only applying a broad, general statement about Criterion upgrading everything as a ballpark possibility should 4K continue to stretch its appeal. I'm not sure Criterion would ever jump on the Limited Edition, useless swag deluxe editions that are keeping some labels afloat right now, but I wouldn't rule it out either. Of course, you are right that much of their lesser output will never see 4K, but I'm pretty sure a lot of their Blu titles will. Once labels and retailers see that customers will submit to double and triple dipping, they are not shy about shoving them in that direction.

I feel pretty sure that they just wouldn’t go the LE route - they seem to always favor more sustainable, library-friendly output.

My other thought on 4k is whether the Criterion Channel will ever go 4k. And if it does, will it get 4k editions where it didn’t make financial sense to press an UHD edition but there is a 4k master available?

[Danespina]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

So, this is interesting. Criterion will be releasing Godzilla on 4K in the UK as well, but they will also be getting a separate Blu-ray. And not only will it come in a plastic case, it's stated to be sourced from the new 4K restoration. Criterion aren't re-releasing a standalone BD in the US, and their M.O. has usually been to include the old BD with their 4K releases, so that UK BD may be the only way to get the 4K restoration on Blu-ray from Criterion.

Huh. Quite odd. Does Criterion have a history of doing anything similar?

[mande2013]

Originally Posted by DimitriL

I feel pretty sure that they just wouldn’t go the LE route - they seem to always favor more sustainable, library-friendly output.

My other thought on 4k is whether the Criterion Channel will ever go 4k. And if it does, will it get 4k editions where it didn’t make financial sense to press an UHD edition but there is a 4k master available?

They’re probably afraid going 4K digitally whether via the Channel or online rentals and purchases will eat into their UHD sales too much.

[Jobla]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

If it's a mistake, that would be such a lame move to release the movie individually on BD in the UK the same day as the 4K, and it turns out to be the old dated transfer. I might reach out to Criterion to see if I could get any confirmation on whether the included BD with the US 4K is a new disc, and also about that UK BD.

Yes, please do so.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Jobla

Yes, Sensei, please do so.

haha, I did email them earlier today, so just waiting to see if I hear anything back.