"Club Penton" - Ask questions to Hollywood insider "Penton-Man"

[aygie]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Penton did Zodiac recieve it for the theatrical or the HD DVD? My memory of theatrical is somewhat hazy but I remember grainy

Do we know if the UK Blu is the same encode as the US HD-DVD?

[aygie]

oh yeah and just read this, i think i might pick this up...

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1341/patton.html

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by hollywoodguy

The good fight will be to convince marketing and the decision makers that a faithful film-like representation of the source should be the ultimate goal.

I’m all for a “film-like” presentation because if anything I love *the look* more than anything I’ve seen that compares using digital camera capture……exception being the Panavision Genesis which can be made to look exactly like film if you know what you’re doing and desire that *look*.

But I’m wondering whether now if some home video enthusiasts are blending the idea of a lack of “film-like” presentation with *annoying* DNR artifacts, because I think there is quite a difference.

Like I said, I suggest people compare Patton to other *known* cases of DNR'ed Blu-ray titles.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Penton did Zodiac recieve it for the theatrical or the HD DVD? My memory of theatrical is somewhat hazy but I remember grainy

It received it for the theatrical presentation (work done by Lowry) so it is baked in the cake so to speak and will be present (evident or not to “discerning” viewers ) in all home media editions, despite the format.

[mhafner]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

With all due respect michel, I have sympathy for your inability to rent given your genuine love for film. However, you or the regular (200-300 ?) internet junkies that bounce from forum to forum expressing their opinions have a rat’s ass amount of purchasing power.
.

It's a matter of principle. With the argument that you alone mean nothing among millions you could as well
- stop voting and participating in the political process
- stop being vegetarian and buy meat again
- stop saving energy and produce less waste
...
A man has got to do what he has got to do.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Aygie

oh yeah and just read this, i think i might pick this up...

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1341/patton.html

The ironic thing about the whole situation is that for people that have never seen the film, Patton as played by George C. Scott comes off in the end to many viewers as a royal son-of–a-b*tch.

I remember back in the day when one of my friends bought the DVD, he was so disgusted/enraged with the behavior of the main character in the film that he threw the DVD into his garbage immediately after viewing the movie.

lol, I guess that means……….. great acting !

[mhafner]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

No love for the F-23 ?

Not if it is used to provide the typical HD camera look (e.g. sharpened and with clipped highlights).
The Crank look. If you use it in a more filmlike way (as you can) I like it, and other HD cameras.

[aygie]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

The ironic thing about the whole situation is that for people that have never seen the film, Patton as played by George C. Scott comes off in the end to many viewers as a royal son-of–a-b*tch.

I remember back in the day when one of my friends bought the DVD, he was so disgusted/enraged with the behavior of the main character in the film that he threw the DVD into his garbage immediately after viewing the movie.

lol, I guess that means……….. great acting !

Never seen it, but looking forward to it. (Even though i've just realized its a Fox release so no importing for me! )

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by mhafner

It's a matter of principle. With the argument that you alone mean nothing among millions you could as well
- stop voting and participating in the political process
- stop being vegetarian and buy meat again
- stop saving energy and produce less waste
...
A man has got to do what he has got to do.

Well, if it’s a matter of “principle” then like I said, do something that has half a chance for a successful outcome.

Send your *DNR-culpable* studios a complaint in writing, as I directed above.
Too much horn-tooting (of whatever their favorite bashing topic of the day is) by self-indulgent home theater *enthusiasts* ends up being wasted energy, which makes me think that they could care less about making real changes, and care more about seeing themselves in posts on the internet.

Letters do make a difference…………….
http://www.zoetrope.com/zoe_films.cg...one&film_id=25

better yet, more surgical strikes by Bill Hunt et. al. have the greatest chance of success, now that content providers have moved from catering to early adopters and now are more interested in broadening their base with the more mainstream buying public.

[Penton-Man]

b.t.w. michel,
Here’s a chance to be a real hero and give something back in a small but, very meaningful way.

Take that money you saved on not purchasing Patton and send it in…….
https://forum.blu-ray.com/announcement.php?f=61

Your soul can’t take Blu-rays to heaven with you but, I wouldn’t be surprised if it can carry good deeds along with it.

[WickyWoo]

Penton hit your PM please RE the brain trust

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by Aygie

Never seen it, but looking forward to it. (Even though i've just realized its a Fox release so no importing for me! )

You need to buy yourself a region a player

[tvted]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

exception being the Panavision Genesis which can be made to look exactly like film if you know what you’re doing and desire that *look*.

I am only familiar with broadcast (as I've mentioned we've a lot in my business that believe that simply using 24P provides a "film look") or my still cameras. So, not to incur a distraction here, but are you suggesting with respect to gamut and dynamic range? I'm sure with RAW 14 bit files the continuous tonal nature of film is essentially replicable for all intent, but dynamic range?

ted

[Alan Gordon]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

The ironic thing about the whole situation is that for people that have never seen the film, Patton as played by George C. Scott comes off in the end to many viewers as a royal son-of–a-b*tch.

I had a relative who thought he was one too... but then he served under him and actually knew the man (Patton that is), so he probably would have found the portrayal to be quite well done!

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

lol, I guess that means……….. great acting !

Some actors can show great acting by playings SOBs... but some actors probably don't have to act that much!

~Alan

[aygie]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

You need to buy yourself a region a player

Dude tell me about it! Bullseye have you got one? Details, details!!!

[elwaylite]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/vdunet/2008...l-6315470.html


Any comment on this nonsense. = LAME

[Ben]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/vdunet/2008...l-6315470.html


Any comment on this nonsense. = LAME

[J6P]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/vdunet/2008...l-6315470.html


Any comment on this nonsense. = LAME

One Japanese report appeared to suggest that the new technology would be able produce much higher-resolution images from existing DVDs, but did not address the apparent impossibility of this claim.

That's classic. I think you can stay on the bench for this one, Penton.

[SuprSlow]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/vdunet/2008...l-6315470.html


Any comment on this nonsense. = LAME

Toshiba unveils another Blu-ray 'killer'


"Another"? Did I miss the first one?

[aygie]

Complete biased crap:

Toshiba ceded to the rival Blu-ray format in February 2008 after spending years developing its own HD-DVD next-generation video disc standard.

Trying to make out HD-DVD came first.

HD-DVD was backed by a consortium of companies including Microsoft and Intel, while Sony is the lead developer of Blu-ray.

Trying to make everyone was behind HD-DVD and only Sony was Blu. ******s.

The new DVD player will be backwards-compatible with standard DVD discs, according to the sources.

Would you expect a DVD player to not be compatible with DVDs????

Such a load of crap. Upscales. Great.