The Martian 4K UHD (2015)

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by bruceames.

Then I misinterpreted what reanimator wrote. What's so special about the 2016 HDR TVs over the 2015 ones?

Not a lot, they support full range HDR but not all, in fact very few support Dolby
It's just another format

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Not a lot, they support full range HDR but not all, in fact very few support Dolby
It's just another format

If it's full range HDR, then couldn't they get a FW update to support it later? It seems like Dolby Vision is getting into this a little too late and mucking things up.

[bruceames]

Thanks for the info. I thought Dolby Vision was an all or nothing deal, glad to hear it's not.

[kristoffer]

First review
.@MartianMovie on Ultra HD Blu-ray with HDR – review by @HighDefDigest: http://ultrahd.highdefdigest.com/306...ahdbluray.html http://twitter.com/UltraHDBluray/sta...381632/photo/1

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by kristoffer

First review
.@MartianMovie on Ultra HD Blu-ray with HDR – review by @HighDefDigest: http://ultrahd.highdefdigest.com/306...ahdbluray.html http://twitter.com/UltraHDBluray/sta...381632/photo/1

There is some additional perceived resolution on wide / special effect shots (the Hermes orbiting Mars or Earth).

Reviews! Lol see 2k upscales work!

[Opips3]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Reviews! Lol see 2k upscales work!

Want dance on MARS??

[MisterXDTV]

Well, not a good review at all.

At the beginning "additional detail is seen in VFX (???)" then "It's noisy, well you know it's upscaled (???)"

The "noise" is not caused by the 2160p resolution, it's caused by the HDR pass that changed the contrast and color grading of the movie!

Otherwise even the standard BD upscaled to 2160p would have looked "noisy"

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

Well, not a good review at all.

At the beginning "additional detail is seen in VFX (???)" then "It's noisy, well you know it's upscaled (???)"

The "noise" is not caused by the 2160p resolution, it's caused by the HDR pass that changed the contrast and color grading of the movie!

Otherwise even the standard BD upscaled to 2160p would have looked "noisy"

There you go putting your own personal spin on a review.

He clearly said it's "highly recommended" at the end, guessing you missed that part?

1 little bad thing 2 say and all the minions come out and say "SEE I TOLD YOU ALL IT WAS A SCAM!"

Hilarious.

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by ray0414

There you go putting your own personal spin on a review.

He clearly said it's "highly recommended" at the end, guessing you missed that part?

1 little bad thing 2 say and all the minions come out and say "SEE I TOLD YOU ALL IT WAS A SCAM!"

Hilarious.

It says "highly recommended" without really explaining why! I mean come on did you read it?

That review literally contradicts itself in a matter of a few lines!

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by ray0414

There you go putting your own personal spin on a review.

He clearly said it's "highly recommended" at the end, guessing you missed that part?

1 little bad thing 2 say and all the minions come out and say "SEE I TOLD YOU ALL IT WAS A SCAM!"

Hilarious.

Reviews are nothing but a personal spin....

[Geoff D]

"So it's kinda good but it's got this and that wrong with it while this and that is better and I had to change my settings anyway"

That's basically gonna be the template for UHD reviews from here on out

[JJ]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Reviews! Lol see 2k upscales work!

Seriously, DI or not, there's a noticeable improvement over the blu-ray.

But it's all "2K DI, UPSCALE, UPSCALE!" with the folks around here. Mobs with pitchforks.

Originally Posted by Geoff D

"So it's kinda good but it's got this and that wrong with it while this and that is better and I had to change my settings anyway"

That's basically gonna be the template for UHD reviews from here on out

I noticed the noise issue he spoke of too, but I had no issues with my black levels.

Everyone's TV seems to react to the K8500 differently, so that'll be fun

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by JJ

Everyone's TV seems to react to the K8500 differently, so that'll be fun

That's what I mean, it's an absolute crapshoot at the moment! Roll them dice and see where they land...

[reanimator]

Originally Posted by JJ

it's all "2K DI, UPSCALE, UPSCALE!" with the folks around here. Mobs with pitchforks.

I said a while back this would become the new teal-squealing, which it has. Please take note that the most critical voices of UHD-BD are coming from the people who haven't actually seen it.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

"So it's kinda good but it's got this and that wrong with it while this and that is better and I had to change my settings anyway"

That's basically gonna be the template for UHD reviews from here on out

Why the surprise? Settings for DVD calibration did not work for BD either.


4K & HDR are new tech, it's going to be a while before there's a baseline.

[Geoff D]

I didn't say it was a surprise, it's more that these early "pro" reviews are even more worthless than they are normally. But I've got to disagree re: BD and DVD calibration though, about the only thing that fundamentally changed (seeing as both were encoded 8-bit 4:2:0) was the colour space from 601 to 709, and how many people were going that deep with calibration 10 years ago anyway?

"It's going to be a while before there's a baseline" is the understatement of the year, as I'm not sure there'll ever be a true consensus on how this stuff all fits together. Having separate tiers of HDR10 performance with the UHDA's own specs (one for LCD, one for OLED, basically) will pretty much guarantee that.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I didn't say it was a surprise, it's more that these early "pro" reviews are even more worthless than they are normally. But I've got to disagree re: BD and DVD calibration though, about the only thing that fundamentally changed (seeing as both were encoded 8-bit 4:2:0) was the colour space from 601 to 709, and how many people were going that deep with calibration 10 years ago anyway?

Quite a few, from I'd say even more than 20 years ago. Remember Joe Kane and the LaserDisc calibration, then the DVD version?


Stuff to correct for things like "RGB drift" from front projection...sigh. I'm old.

[Geoff D]

By "deep calibration" I don't mean checking a few settings using a test disc, I mean spectros, colorimeters, measuring software, the whole schmeer. But then you didn't say anything about LD to DVD either so I guess we're quits on the mind reading front.

[Xplosive]

Well, this review isn't enough to buy The Martian Ultra HD BR (as it seems, the review is not really more impressed by it than The Martian 2K BR with 4K pscaling TV), but Kingsman, by their review, did a clearly better job and bests 2K BR in every way.

[JJ]

I'm gonna debut this movie tonight to others - well, I want to say "regular consumers" - as in, not A/V enthusiasts like me & you guys - and let you know their thoughts.

By others I mean the missus, and also my sister. See what the two of them think. They've been watching movies on my set-up for many years.