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Lee A Stewart · 03-31-2022, 04:11 PM

Samsung further delays launch of smaller microLED TVs

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1648635039

Lee A Stewart · 03-31-2022, 04:13 PM

42" LG C2 will get OLED EX panels after the second quarter

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You may want to wait to buy the first 42-inch OLED TV on the market as current samples use an older panel. LG confirms that it will start applying WBE (OLED EX) panels soon.

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1648718644

blakninja · 04-01-2022, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Badas

Just get the 97" G2. That will do.

Is that the consensus best 97" 4K TV?

avs commenter · 04-01-2022, 02:42 PM

Samsung is adding a DV firmware update to all their Tvs!

gkolb · 04-01-2022, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by avs commenter

Samsung is adding a DV firmware update to all their Tvs!

I think I’m shocked to my core by this.
Do you have a link to something?

samlop10 · 04-01-2022, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gkolb

I think I’m shocked to my core by this.
Do you have a link to something?

Mmmhhh mind the date today.

nick4Knight · 04-01-2022, 05:53 PM

First thing any shocking news around this time of year is check to see if you just crossed into April...

For sure

Robert Zohn · 04-11-2022, 01:02 AM

At 12:01am PT tonight we'll announce the prices and availability of Sony's 75" and 85" X95K new 2022 flagship 4K HDR MiniLED with Sony's Backlight Master Drive and updated XR Processor. We'll also announce pricing and availability for Sony's 55" X90K Full Array Locally dimmed LCD/LED 4K HDR TV.

Here's the link to Whisper Status 74's YouTube channel where I announce the prices and availability.

Of course, we can't help ourselves from discussing several other Sony 2022 series with their launch dates.

Prices and availability for Sony's first allocation will also be listed on our X95K webpage at 120:01am PT

Penton-Man · 04-12-2022, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by samlop10

it seems microLED for consumers will become a thing first before miniLED gets there, if it gets there at all.

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Sam, no sales pitch here, but with regards to microLED are you inclined to favor the engineering pathway pursued by Samsung Displays Corp. or that of Samsung Visual Display? If unfamiliar with the technical specifics of each approach, send me a PM.

Sam, I just returned your PM inquiry with an answer, check for details, the tracks are complicated, but the outline for each may be beneficial to understanding. As an aside, Apple is pursuing yet another microLED pathway.

samlop10 · 04-13-2022, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Sam, I just returned your PM inquiry with an answer, check for details, the tracks are complicated, but the outline for each may be beneficial to understanding. As an aside, Apple is pursuing yet another microLED pathway.

After seeing those differences I am sort of on a ‘wait and see’ approach. Between ‘standard’ microLED and microLED that uses QD tech, what will be the disadvantages and advantages of each? Will the modular design of the ‘standard’ methodology have those visible ‘seams’ that were apparent in some of the models due to the modular approach? Will the QD approach have better color volume? Which one will last longer? Is shadow detail going be affected depending on which tech is being used? Which one will be brighter? Which one will be more available to consumers in affordable/practical sizes (i.e. anything below 90”)?

Both definitely look interesting. Although i get the feeling Samsung Displays Corp. is leaning to using QD tech more because it’s easier for them to switch to mass production of ‘microLED-QD’ displays from their current QD OLED manufacturing by using the QD approach (thus making it cheaper), rather than because it is the better all around tech approach.

nick4Knight · 04-14-2022, 02:36 AM

I think there is still no tech that has potential to be display killer of anything else. Even WOLED looks to still have a market for 5+ more years in LG and chinese brands going forward as a 1000$ price point.

These things will always be tiered into markets to milk every possible one. It's not in their interest to find the far and away best technology, but to "push the envelope" artificially on them all by having these mini arms races for specs they can market to generic consumers with jargon buzzwords.

Ultimately, we win, too... but we don't win BIG.

Robert Zohn · 04-15-2022, 01:45 AM

Check out our 11:30am Friday, April 15th podcast at our a/v showroom. We'll be showcasing LG's 2022 C2 and G2 OLED TVs.

We'll be moderating for any Q&A.

We'll also briefly show 2021 C1, Sony A90J Master Series, Samsung's 98" QN90A, Sony's 75X95J, and Hisense's PX1-PRO with the Dolby Vision HDR Firmware Update on our 100" UST/ALR Screen will be in our main TV Showroom, and a peak at our adjacent dedicated theater demo room.

lgans316 · 04-18-2022, 11:11 AM

Looks like finally Samsung are back and it could be a LCD/WOLED killer. Will be interesting to see how LG responds but it seems like LG are already in a bit of trouble. The only thing that will help LG is larger screen sizes and being an established tech.

Classy's latest video:

https://www.youtube.com/supported_br...tube.com/watch

I don't follow FOMO much but I would kind of agree with him in his recent video.

https://www.youtube.com/supported_br...tube.com/watch

What's weird is couple of owners have mentioned that the QD-OLED looks better at an angle than straight on.

Hoping we will see screen sizes > 65 next year.

Geoff D · 04-18-2022, 12:20 PM

Samsung are back? They were never there to begin with. Terrible TVs that sacrifice accuracy for "pop" (ugh), which is of coursh why they're so popular with the masses.

lgans316 · 04-18-2022, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Samsung are back? They were never there to begin with. Terrible TVs that sacrifice accuracy for "pop" (ugh), which is of coursh why they're so popular with the masses.

I meant they have come up with something that can dominate other panel tech.

As per Vincent, the S95B looks to deviate from the EOTF curve only by a smaller extent.

Jay Mammoth · 04-18-2022, 05:17 PM

Samsung lol

avs commenter · 04-18-2022, 09:13 PM

If Samsung panels track the EOTF curve too closely they will alienate their main demo

Penton-Man · 04-20-2022, 10:35 PM

just now accessible - https://dpel.aswf.io/asc-stem2/

I DO BLU · 04-21-2022, 07:44 PM

MisterXDTV · 04-21-2022, 08:19 PM

It looks obvious to me that part of the hype, is because Samsung is pushing the colors/brightness too much...

That undefeatable dynamic tone mapping kills reference image quality

Don't know why you should be happy about it

04-11-2022, 01:02 AM	#888
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	At 12:01am PT tonight we'll announce the prices and availability of Sony's 75" and 85" X95K new 2022 flagship 4K HDR MiniLED with Sony's Backlight Master Drive and updated XR Processor. We'll also announce pricing and availability for Sony's 55" X90K Full Array Locally dimmed LCD/LED 4K HDR TV. Here's the link to Whisper Status 74's YouTube channel where I announce the prices and availability. Of course, we can't help ourselves from discussing several other Sony 2022 series with their launch dates. Prices and availability for Sony's first allocation will also be listed on our X95K webpage at 120:01am PT Last edited by Robert Zohn; 04-11-2022 at 06:55 AM.

03-31-2022, 04:11 PM	#881
Lee A Stewart Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jan 2019 Location:Albuquerque, NM	Samsung further delays launch of smaller microLED TVs https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1648635039

04-01-2022, 02:42 PM	#884
avs commenter Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2018 Trading Score:8	Samsung is adding a DV firmware update to all their Tvs!

04-01-2022, 05:53 PM	#887
nick4Knight Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2013 Location:Perth, Australia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:386 Blu-ray collection:716	First thing any shocking news around this time of year is check to see if you just crossed into April... For sure

04-14-2022, 02:36 AM	#891
nick4Knight Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2013 Location:Perth, Australia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:386 Blu-ray collection:716	I think there is still no tech that has potential to be display killer of anything else. Even WOLED looks to still have a market for 5+ more years in LG and chinese brands going forward as a 1000$ price point. These things will always be tiered into markets to milk every possible one. It's not in their interest to find the far and away best technology, but to "push the envelope" artificially on them all by having these mini arms races for specs they can market to generic consumers with jargon buzzwords. Ultimately, we win, too... but we don't win BIG.

04-18-2022, 11:11 AM	#893
lgans316 Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Location:RM16, United Kingdom Blu-ray reviews:17 Trading Score:498	Looks like finally Samsung are back and it could be a LCD/WOLED killer. Will be interesting to see how LG responds but it seems like LG are already in a bit of trouble. The only thing that will help LG is larger screen sizes and being an established tech. Classy's latest video: https://www.youtube.com/supported_br...tube.com/watch I don't follow FOMO much but I would kind of agree with him in his recent video. https://www.youtube.com/supported_br...tube.com/watch What's weird is couple of owners have mentioned that the QD-OLED looks better at an angle than straight on. Hoping we will see screen sizes > 65 next year.

04-18-2022, 12:20 PM	#894
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Samsung are back? They were never there to begin with. Terrible TVs that sacrifice accuracy for "pop" (ugh), which is of coursh why they're so popular with the masses.

04-18-2022, 05:17 PM	#896
Jay Mammoth Blu-ray Champion Member since:Mar 2011 Location:Buffalo NY Home Theater Gallery:5 4K collection:583 Blu-ray collection:1607 DVD collection:63 iTunes collection:14 Prime collection:1 Trading Score:24	Samsung lol

04-18-2022, 09:13 PM	#897
avs commenter Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2018 Trading Score:8	If Samsung panels track the EOTF curve too closely they will alienate their main demo

04-20-2022, 10:35 PM	#898
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	just now accessible - https://dpel.aswf.io/asc-stem2/

04-21-2022, 08:19 PM	#900
MisterXDTV Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2008	It looks obvious to me that part of the hype, is because Samsung is pushing the colors/brightness too much... That undefeatable dynamic tone mapping kills reference image quality Don't know why you should be happy about it

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