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San Francisco 49ers 28 50.91%
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Old 09-10-2016, 07:16 PM   #69761
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It's he doing anything to hurt you or three country? So who cares?

And that's the last I'll say on it.
I care because I love my country. That flag and national anthem mean something to me.
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Old 09-10-2016, 08:32 PM   #69762
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I care because I love my country. That flag and national anthem mean something to me.
Exactly how I feel.

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Old 09-10-2016, 09:18 PM   #69763
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Exactly. People don't kneel during the anthem, because they don't want anyone to notice it. They do it for the expressed purpose of attention. You can't kneel for the expressed purpose of protest, then complain when people criticize your protest.
His jersey is the top seller and social media is going nonstop 24/7 about a player people wouldn't even be talking about if not for his protest. Funny how the people who claim to despise what he's doing are talking nonstop about him, providing him with the free media he wants to get his message out there. Then again we live in a world where the darkest fringes of social media can now manufacture a candidate for leader of the free world, so it's hardly surprising. Interesting times we live in.
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Old 09-10-2016, 10:19 PM   #69764
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I can't speak for others but did Jackie Robinson wear socks with pigs dressed in a police uniform on them? It was at that point that Kaepernick's "cause" lost all credibility with me.
Again, what are these people doing in their own time to further their cause? This is what I'm dying to hear! Are they writing letters to leaders? Are they holding town meetings to organize folks in the community? Are they doing a billion other things in their free time?
Or are they using a camera as a platform?

Think we all know the answer to that.

Also I should point out that if America is so bad, the option to leave is always there.
Ah, yes, the 'leave if you don't like it' statement. If Rosa Parks had just shut up and sat down, if people just accepted whites only drinking fountains and restrooms.......

Kaepernick and the Forty Niners are donating money. One million from Kap, another million from the team to the Silicon Valley Community Foundation and the San Francisco Foundation, as well as all the proceeds from his skyrocketing jersey sales. So yes, he is putting his money where his mouth is.

His protest is harmful to no one. No riots, no blocking of any commerce. But it is offensive, apparently, to those that feel that we live in a country where the rights in the Constitution are only allowed as long it doesn't tick people off. He is calling out the inequities he sees, and wants to call attention to it. Hey, guess what, it's working. We are talking about it.
Unless you are a black man getting pulled over for DWB, or being followed by security in a department store nonstop, and so forth, perhaps you just don't see the social injustice that is pervasive in certain areas of this country. No one is saying America is totally fair or ever has been, but improving it is always paramount to all of its citizens. Calling for it's improvement should never be called un-American.

He has the right to sit or kneel or dance around during the anthem. He has the right to talk about his opinion, and you have the right to not agree with him. I don't necessarily agree with it either, but I would have a hard time putting myself out on that stage knowing the reaction I would get. I don't have a problem going into a firefight, but I'm not keen on getting torn up by the media and every yahoo with a keyboard.

There are plenty of countries that mandate standing and saluting a flag or a leader by rule of force. This isn't one of them, and many people have died defending the rights given to us so that we may live in the land of the free.
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Old 09-10-2016, 11:20 PM   #69765
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If everyone is done with the politics, let's do some picks.


Vikings over Titans
Texans over Bears
Eagles over Browns
Ravens over Bills
Chiefs over Chargers
Saints over Raiders
Buccaneers over Falcons
Bengals over Jets
Packers over Jaguars
Seahawks over Dolphins
Giants over Cowboys
Colts over Lions
Cardinals over Patriots
Steelers over Redskins
Rams over 49ers
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Old 09-10-2016, 11:22 PM   #69766
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If everyone is done with the politics, let's do some picks.


Vikings over Titans
Texans over Bears
Eagles over Browns
Ravens over Bills
Chiefs over Chargers
Saints over Raiders
Buccaneers over Falcons
Bengals over Jets
Packers over Jaguars
Seahawks over Dolphins
Giants over Cowboys
Colts over Lions
Cardinals over Patriots
Steelers over Redskins
Rams over 49ers
I'll go with most of those but change one to Cowboys over G-Strings and also say Broncos over Panthers.
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Old 09-10-2016, 11:24 PM   #69767
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Buccaneers vs Falcons
Vikings vs Titans
Browns vs Eagles
Bengals vs Jets
Raiders vs Saints
Chargers vs Chiefs
Bills vs Ravens
Bears vs Texans
Packers vs Jaguars
Dolphins vs Seahawks
Giants vs Cowboys
Lions vs Colts
Patriots vs Cardinals
Steelers vs Redskins
Rams vs 49ers
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Old 09-10-2016, 11:54 PM   #69768
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Texans
Browns
Bills
Chiefs
Saints
Buccaneers
Jets
Packers
Seahawks
Giants
Lions
Patriots
Steelers
49ers



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Old 09-11-2016, 12:16 AM   #69769
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His jersey is the top seller and social media is going nonstop 24/7 about a player people wouldn't even be talking about if not for his protest. Funny how the people who claim to despise what he's doing are talking nonstop about him, providing him with the free media he wants to get his message out there. Then again we live in a world where the darkest fringes of social media can now manufacture a candidate for leader of the free world, so it's hardly surprising. Interesting times we live in.
Lol. As if the other candidate is better...
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Old 09-11-2016, 12:18 AM   #69770
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Ah, yes, the 'leave if you don't like it' statement. If Rosa Parks had just shut up and sat down, if people just accepted whites only drinking fountains and restrooms.......

Kaepernick and the Forty Niners are donating money. One million from Kap, another million from the team to the Silicon Valley Community Foundation and the San Francisco Foundation, as well as all the proceeds from his skyrocketing jersey sales. So yes, he is putting his money where his mouth is.

His protest is harmful to no one. No riots, no blocking of any commerce. But it is offensive, apparently, to those that feel that we live in a country where the rights in the Constitution are only allowed as long it doesn't tick people off. He is calling out the inequities he sees, and wants to call attention to it. Hey, guess what, it's working. We are talking about it.
Unless you are a black man getting pulled over for DWB, or being followed by security in a department store nonstop, and so forth, perhaps you just don't see the social injustice that is pervasive in certain areas of this country. No one is saying America is totally fair or ever has been, but improving it is always paramount to all of its citizens. Calling for it's improvement should never be called un-American.

He has the right to sit or kneel or dance around during the anthem. He has the right to talk about his opinion, and you have the right to not agree with him. I don't necessarily agree with it either, but I would have a hard time putting myself out on that stage knowing the reaction I would get. I don't have a problem going into a firefight, but I'm not keen on getting torn up by the media and every yahoo with a keyboard.

There are plenty of countries that mandate standing and saluting a flag or a leader by rule of force. This isn't one of them, and many people have died defending the rights given to us so that we may live in the land of the free.
He talks about systemic oppression and wears a Tee featuring a Communist dictator. He can f right off the hypocrite. Let's be real. He's ***** whipped and that's the reason for this sudden stance. Where was his sitting protest last year?
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Old 09-11-2016, 12:40 AM   #69771
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Again, what are these people doing in their own time to further their cause? [/B]
Well Kaepernick is donating a million dollars to charities last I checked. I'm not a millionaire but I donate a significant proportion of my paychecks to social justice causes, among other things. I'd imagine you'll be tempted to call me a "SJW" or something similar that you consider an insult but please know that if you do I consider it a compliment, not an insult.

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The tired old, "if you don't like it, leave it" argument. Thanks but no thanks. I prefer to work to change the system from within.
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Old 09-11-2016, 02:18 AM   #69772
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Seriously? Make your damn picks, and enjoy Week One.
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Old 09-11-2016, 02:35 AM   #69773
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Got my PS4 all setup for Sunday Ticket!
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Well Kaepernick is donating a million dollars to charities last I checked. I'm not a millionaire but I donate a significant proportion of my paychecks to social justice causes, among other things. I'd imagine you'll be tempted to call me a "SJW" or something similar that you consider an insult but please know that if you do I consider it a compliment, not an insult.



The tired old, "if you don't like it, leave it" argument. Thanks but no thanks. I prefer to work to change the system from within.
Just donate money and let someone else fix the problems.

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Seriously? Make your damn picks, and enjoy Week One.
Patriots win. Palmer has a meltdown cut at the end of season. Cards trade David Johnson and second round pick for garoppolo and pats third round pick .
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Old 09-11-2016, 09:36 AM   #69777
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Let's go Buffalo!

Bills, baby, Bills!
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Let's go Panthers .... oh wait.

For some crazy reason, I think the Jaguars will beat the Packers today. Not sure why, just a gut feeling somehow.
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Time for the Cowboys to start the season off right with a win over the G-Strings! We Dem Boyz!

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Let's go Panthers .... oh wait.

For some crazy reason, I think the Jaguars will beat the Packers today. Not sure why, just a gut feeling somehow.
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