Golden Age 3-D Features

[BleedOrange11]

Originally Posted by Robert Furmanek

And the last I heard, the current restoration effort has no plans to include 3-D in the mix.

That's almost hard to believe. What mismanagement. They don't deserve to own those copyrights.

[robtadrian]

A post on the 3d Film Archive's Facebook says that there will be an English track from 1954 and subtitles on Heart of the Sword

[BleedOrange11]

Brand new English subtitles and they managed rights to the original English dub? What a coup! Well done Bob and 3D Archive!

[Interdimensional]

Originally Posted by Robert Furmanek

Saville also planned THE LONG WAIT for color 3-D lensing but dropped that in favor of black and white widescreen.

It must've been a miserable time for 3-D pioneers with 3-D getting dropped on many films.

Although I would guess "Space Station USA" was Gog, and "Million Dollar Diamond" also got made in 3-D as "The Diamond Wizard". Perhaps it was the delay in shooting "The Long Wait" that led them to drop 3-D. Between September and November of that year would have been a pivotal time. Maybe if they'd been ready to go on September 8th, we might have had another 3-D title. Of course given the fate of Gog and The Diamond Wizard, it presumably wouldn't have had much of a 3-D release. From a purely commercial standpoint, they probably made the right decision.

[T. Warren Scollan]

Originally Posted by BleedOrange11

Brand new English subtitles and they managed rights to the original English dub? What a coup! Well done Bob and 3D Archive!

I'll go with the English dub if they used Cesar and Katy, but if they used other voice actors, then it's Spanish and the subtitles for me!

Got a copy of "Wasabi" starring Jean Reno in French with added English dubs and subtitles. Knowing what Jean Reno sounds like and that he speaks English quite well, hearing the other voice actor drove me nuts!!!! So that's what turned me on to listening in the original language and hearing their acting emotions in their voices, even when one doesn't understand exactly what they're saying. Pretty soon you're just catching the subtitles in your peripheral vision and it doesn't interfere with one's staying on top of a film visually.

[cinerama]

Originally Posted by robtadrian

A post on the 3d Film Archive's Facebook says that there will be an English track from 1954 and subtitles on Heart of the Sword

I'm on their Facebook page and I don't see this info. Please provide a link.

[robtadrian]

Originally Posted by cinerama

I'm on their Facebook page and I don't see this info. Please provide a link.

Here you go sir!

https://www.facebook.com/3DFilmArchi...33481546696062

Under Scott Coleman's question in the replies...

(When I'm logged in FB I see it but logged out it doesn't appear (?)

[BleedOrange11]

Originally Posted by T. Warren Scollan

I'll go with the English dub if they used Cesar and Katy, but if they used other voice actors, then it's Spanish and the subtitles for me!

I love watching subtitled movies and hearing foreign languages. Similarly, I can't stand dubs. Usually, the voice actors are low-rent, the voice and lips don't match, and/or the script gets lost in translation. Subtitles and original language audio are an automatic choice. Dubs are just for people who won't read dialogue.

[cinerama]

Originally Posted by robtadrian

Here you go sir!

https://www.facebook.com/3DFilmArchi...33481546696062

Under Scott Coleman's question in the replies...

(When I'm logged in FB I see it but logged out it doesn't appear (?)

Thanks!

[Paul H]

Originally Posted by BleedOrange11

Subtitles and original language audio are an automatic choice. Dubs are just for people who won't read dialogue.

Guess that's me. It gets in my way when I'm trying to appreciate = viewing and reacting via 3D nirvana.

[pixote]

Originally Posted by BleedOrange11

I love watching subtitled movies and hearing foreign languages. Similarly, I can't stand dubs. Usually, the voice actors are low-rent, the voice and lips don't match, and/or the script gets lost in translation. Subtitles and original language audio are an automatic choice. Dubs are just for people who won't read dialogue.

I used to import DVD's into Canada for some small shops years ago. I literally have 1000's of arthouse and international DVD's in storage, and I even licensed films at one point. I specialized in small runs and hard to find films, and had some of the directors and actors who'd come up for TIFF compliment some of the shops selections of obscurities. I only say this to make a point on how much I hate dubbing. There's no excuse to use dubs on 2d films, but as much as I hate dub's I think with 3d I prefer dubbing. I feel dirty admitting that lol. I used subs for 3d films like Attraction and Кин-дза-дза, but it was slightly frustrating as I wanted to focus on the moving parts

[kramer2727]

Maybe this has been covered before, but The Glass Web is screening at The Aero in Santa Monica next month. It says it's a 3D DCP, so it's been converted but they just aren't releasing it on disc for some reason?

[Camps]

Originally Posted by kramer2727

Maybe this has been covered before, but The Glass Web is screening at The Aero in Santa Monica next month. It says it's a 3D DCP, so it's been converted but they just aren't releasing it on disc for some reason?

The reason is music rights. You'll hear why if you go see the movie.

[BleedOrange11]

Originally Posted by kramer2727

Maybe this has been covered before, but The Glass Web is screening at The Aero in Santa Monica next month. It says it's a 3D DCP, so it's been converted but they just aren't releasing it on disc for some reason?

Awesome. Wish I could attend that. Thanks for letting us know about the DCP. Seems like that would make it relatively cheap and easy for a European distributor to license the film and prep it for Blu-ray 3D.

[robtadrian]

Originally Posted by kramer2727

Maybe this has been covered before, but The Glass Web is screening at The Aero in Santa Monica next month. It says it's a 3D DCP, so it's been converted but they just aren't releasing it on disc for some reason?

http://www.americancinemathequecalen..._events?page=1

Nice March 14 with Dial M for Murder, March 15 Creature from the Black Lagoon intro'd by Julie Adams son and a Disney feature on March 17. I'm guessing the animated shorts are all Disney?

If anyone goes also check out the LACMA 3D exhibition and Eric Kurland's 3D space!

[Robert Furmanek]

If anybody goes to the show, please report on the quality of The Glass Web DCP. I’m told there are quality issues and in fact, one theater test screened it and decided not to book it.

[pixote]

Originally Posted by Robert Furmanek

If anybody goes to the show, please report on the quality of The Glass Web DCP. I’m told there are quality issues and in fact, one theater test screened it and decided not to book it.

It's amazing to me people are choosing nothing over something, like it's only been around 60 years since it screened in 3d, but they're passing over some technical issues. The 3d industry has come and gone, and is about to be gone again and they're going to be passed over into obscurity once again. In a perfect world we'd have the best transfers for all these movies, but the world is far from perfect and people just want to see these films. I mean, look at this forum. One of the most popular threads of 2018 was around a fan made SBS edition of Friday the 13th, which I'm sure is far from perfect technically, but still captured the attention of 3d fans more than some of the commercially sold 3d Blu Rays because it's a movie people actually want to see, flaws or not.

As an example, there's a record label called Awesome Tapes From Africa that specializes in re-releasing obscure music that was only on cassette, many times from countries like Ethiopia, Sudan, Mali and other countries with far from ideal manufacturing and recording processes. Tons of lisp and hiss, tape warps in some cases....but they're selling out of everything they do because at the end of the day people want to hear the music, even with its problems, so sometimes you just need to take the best option you have and run with it.

[cinerama]

Originally Posted by pixote

One of the most popular threads of 2018 was around a fan made SBS edition of Friday the 13th, which I'm sure is far from perfect technically, but still captured the attention of 3d fans more than some of the commercially sold 3d Blu Rays because it's a movie people actually want to see, flaws or not.

I only watched through the opening titles but, I think SBS edition of Friday the 13th part 3 looks better (the convergence of the 3D) than Comin at Ya! and other titles with extreme pop-outs.

[GKintz]

Originally Posted by pixote

It's amazing to me people are choosing nothing over something, like it's only been around 60 years since it screened in 3d, but they're passing over some technical issues.

I haven't seen the DCP either, but until we know what those issues are or were, should keep an open mind. I've seen issues that would easily warrant not showing a title. What are some repercussions for an exhibitor doing a presentation which he or or she knew was botched ahead of time? Besides the disappointment of a subpar presentation and possibly earning a bad reputation, there's a potential theater full of ticket refunds. It's something anyone in the business always has to keep in mind. If there were any serious issues with the DCP, I hope they were corrected.

[bavanut]

Ballew bought tickets, you bet your sweet Bippy.

I know I won't be the only one reporting here on his experience. Watch this space!