BD/DVD combo disc - Blu-ray Forum

tulegit · 02-01-2007, 06:41 PM

Are there any plans for BD/DVD combo disc? I personally would like this feature because I can use the BD in my main home theatre setup and use the DVD in my son's room and car dvd player.

Unless BD players become cheap enough for me to buy a player for every room in my house and for our car, I think this would be a great idea.

Josh · 02-01-2007, 06:44 PM

According to paidgeek, the demand is too weak for publishers to consider this option.

Nismobeach · 02-01-2007, 08:42 PM

It's kind of pointless, IMO. Just like HD-DVD is pointless in general.

JTK · 02-01-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismobeach

It's kind of pointless, IMO. Just like HD-DVD is pointless in general.

Exactly.

If I want SD, I'll buy it. Don't force it on me, especially if means extra cost and/or ANY kind of quality compromise on the main product.

Combos suck!

Knight-Errant · 02-01-2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JTK

Exactly.

If I want SD, I'll buy it. Don't force it on me, especially if means extra cost and/or ANY kind of quality compromise on the main product.

Combos suck!

Yep.

Banjo · 02-01-2007, 11:28 PM

I don't like that idea. Just another way to make it more pricey.

Heresy · 02-02-2007, 04:04 PM

Why would any Blu-ray owner want to pay any extra for something they will never use and why would any DVD owner want to pay extra for something they may or may not use in the future? The only "combo" that makes any kind of sense is the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD discs and that helps the company a lot more than the consumer.

JTK · 02-02-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Heresy

Why would any Blu-ray owner want to pay any extra for something they will never use and why would any DVD owner want to pay extra for something they may or may not use in the future? The only "combo" that makes any kind of sense is the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD discs and that helps the company a lot more than the consumer.

Doesn't sound very "reasonable", does it?

NovaBomb · 02-02-2007, 04:09 PM

Heresy, I agree

tulegit · 02-02-2007, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heresy

Why would any Blu-ray owner want to pay any extra for something they will never use and why would any DVD owner want to pay extra for something they may or may not use in the future? The only "combo" that makes any kind of sense is the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD discs and that helps the company a lot more than the consumer.

Well, my cadillac has a DVD navigation system. It obvious that I can't upgrade that to a BD system and I would never want to either. It would be great for me to buy one disc that works across all my players.

Heresy · 02-02-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tulegit

Well, my cadillac has a DVD navigation system. It obvious that I can't upgrade that to a BD system and I would never want to either. It would be great for me to buy one disc that works across all my players.

So because YOU want to play both everyone should pay extra? It makes no economical sense except for the 1 in a 1000+ that feel the need to watch movies in their cars.

Avalanche™ · 02-02-2007, 08:37 PM

see i completely Disagree, i think its better for the consumer to actually have the DVD Combo, cuz some people are still in limbo to which side they want to go with, lets say someone is thinking BR and they dont have the cash for a player but they will have cash at a later time. so not only are they spending money on a blu ray movie AND a DVD version they can watch now, but they will basically be locked in to get the BR Player since they have movies for it anyway.

example

my friend has no money for a ps3 or br player right now since hes gettting hitched,but he made the decision that he will take the BR side,so hes gonna buy the combo format now so he can actually use it on his regular DVD player and he can use it later on his BR player.

get it?

tulegit · 02-02-2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Destiny Is near

see i completely Disagree, i think its better for the consumer to actually have the DVD Combo, cuz some people are still in limbo to which side they want to go with, lets say someone is thinking BR and they dont have the cash for a player but they will have cash at a later time. so not only are they spending money on a blu ray movie AND a DVD version they can watch now, but they will basically be locked in to get the BR Player since they have movies for it anyway.

example

my friend has no money for a ps3 or br player right now since hes gettting hitched,but he made the decision that he will take the BR side,so hes gonna buy the combo format now so he can actually use it on his regular DVD player and he can use it later on his BR player.

get it?

I totally agree. I think that is the logic that HD-DVD is using.

JTK · 02-02-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tulegit

I totally agree. I think that is the logic that HD-DVD is using.

And how's HD-DVD doing these days?

Iceman_II · 02-02-2007, 08:57 PM

And another reason NOT to have BD/DVD combos is that as long as part of the package is DVD, Toshiba gets a royalty... $crew 'em

Heresy · 02-02-2007, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tulegit

I totally agree. I think that is the logic that HD-DVD is using.

Go ask all the HD-DVD users how much they like paying extra for combos; they hate them too.

tulegit · 02-02-2007, 09:19 PM

I guess most BD owners (and HD-DVD) would hate to pay extra. But we are a very very small percentage. The vast majority of americans are still DVD owners like the previous poster's friend. And if these consumer can be persuaded to make a future investment, then they are "locked" into the BD format.

Everyone here is very adament about supporting BD, so it's a small price to pay to claim victory.

theknub · 02-02-2007, 09:26 PM

or a large price if ur like heresy, provenflipper, btbuck, JTK, me and a host of other people.

maybe u have $5 extra for every disc you want, but as heresy said, that is close to $300 in extra expenses. $300 that could easily go into buying more videos, games, equipment, etc.

i'll vote with my wallet, but not at the expense of paying that much more.

Heresy · 02-02-2007, 08:59 PM

So everyone with a Blu-ray player has to spend more money because your friend cannot afford a PS3 right now? The studios produce Blu-Ray discs for customers that own Blu-ray players, not for customers that may, sometime in the future, buy one.

There is nothing good in combo discs for 95%+ of the people who would be forced to buy them if that was all that was offered and there wouldn't be enough demand for the companies to produce both single versions and combos.

Just because your friend can't afford a player right now does not justify making everyone that can (and who are the customers that are driving the format) pay more.

Get it?

Avalanche™ · 02-03-2007, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heresy

So everyone with a Blu-ray player has to spend more money because your friend cannot afford a PS3 right now? The studios produce Blu-Ray discs for customers that own Blu-ray players, not for customers that may, sometime in the future, buy one.

There is nothing good in combo discs for 95%+ of the people who would be forced to buy them if that was all that was offered and there wouldn't be enough demand for the companies to produce both single versions and combos.

Just because your friend can't afford a player right now does not justify making everyone that can (and who are the customers that are driving the format) pay more.

Get it?

take it easy turbo

the combo format i saw were the same price and regular HD DVD($34.99) so i never knew there is a price hike in the combo version

02-01-2007, 06:41 PM	#1
tulegit Member Member since:Jan 2007	BD/DVD combo disc Are there any plans for BD/DVD combo disc? I personally would like this feature because I can use the BD in my main home theatre setup and use the DVD in my son's room and car dvd player. Unless BD players become cheap enough for me to buy a player for every room in my house and for our car, I think this would be a great idea.

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02-01-2007, 06:44 PM	#2
Josh Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Home Theater Gallery:50 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:407 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 15 Trading Score:34	According to paidgeek, the demand is too weak for publishers to consider this option.

02-01-2007, 08:42 PM	#3
Nismobeach Senior Member Member since:Dec 2006	It's kind of pointless, IMO. Just like HD-DVD is pointless in general.

02-01-2007, 11:28 PM	#6
Banjo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Blu-ray collection:143	I don't like that idea. Just another way to make it more pricey.

02-02-2007, 04:04 PM	#7
Heresy Active Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Frisco, TX	Why would any Blu-ray owner want to pay any extra for something they will never use and why would any DVD owner want to pay extra for something they may or may not use in the future? The only "combo" that makes any kind of sense is the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD discs and that helps the company a lot more than the consumer.

02-02-2007, 04:09 PM	#9
NovaBomb Active Member Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray collection:48	Heresy, I agree

02-02-2007, 08:37 PM	#12
Avalanche™ Active Member Member since:Dec 2006 Trading Score:1	see i completely Disagree, i think its better for the consumer to actually have the DVD Combo, cuz some people are still in limbo to which side they want to go with, lets say someone is thinking BR and they dont have the cash for a player but they will have cash at a later time. so not only are they spending money on a blu ray movie AND a DVD version they can watch now, but they will basically be locked in to get the BR Player since they have movies for it anyway. example my friend has no money for a ps3 or br player right now since hes gettting hitched,but he made the decision that he will take the BR side,so hes gonna buy the combo format now so he can actually use it on his regular DVD player and he can use it later on his BR player. get it?

02-02-2007, 08:57 PM	#15
Iceman_II Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Ft. Worth Home Theater Gallery:2 Blu-ray collection:308 Blu-ray reviews: 4	And another reason NOT to have BD/DVD combos is that as long as part of the package is DVD, Toshiba gets a royalty... $crew 'em

02-02-2007, 09:19 PM	#17
tulegit Member Member since:Jan 2007	I guess most BD owners (and HD-DVD) would hate to pay extra. But we are a very very small percentage. The vast majority of americans are still DVD owners like the previous poster's friend. And if these consumer can be persuaded to make a future investment, then they are "locked" into the BD format. Everyone here is very adament about supporting BD, so it's a small price to pay to claim victory.

02-02-2007, 09:26 PM	#18
theknub Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2006	or a large price if ur like heresy, provenflipper, btbuck, JTK, me and a host of other people. maybe u have $5 extra for every disc you want, but as heresy said, that is close to $300 in extra expenses. $300 that could easily go into buying more videos, games, equipment, etc. i'll vote with my wallet, but not at the expense of paying that much more.

02-02-2007, 08:59 PM	#19
Heresy Active Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Frisco, TX	So everyone with a Blu-ray player has to spend more money because your friend cannot afford a PS3 right now? The studios produce Blu-Ray discs for customers that own Blu-ray players, not for customers that may, sometime in the future, buy one. There is nothing good in combo discs for 95%+ of the people who would be forced to buy them if that was all that was offered and there wouldn't be enough demand for the companies to produce both single versions and combos. Just because your friend can't afford a player right now does not justify making everyone that can (and who are the customers that are driving the format) pay more. Get it?

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